So why did a right wing incel do it?

[Lazaran]

Despite my addition to the list, I don’t believe this was a screw-up by local LE or the SS. I believe this was staged by the Trump campaign with the assistance of his loyalist SS agents. How they got this guy to be the patsy, I don’t know.

Well that ^ is an interesting take.



We're talking about some next level crazy if Trump and his cabal orchestrated the whole thing.



They were willing to risk murder charges if someone in the crowd died (which they did) and they were found out???



That ^ would be craaaaaazy.

 

[Lazaran]

So? Get me out of the weeds?
How many bullets?
How many injuries ?

The burner phone is a fact. What it will turn up? Who knows?

Non dealers use burner phones ? Expensive habit

Weeds??? The Trumplikans are lining this all up on the Secret Service, police and FBI

Trump told them to allow guns into the Jan 6 rally. Did they listen to their boss?

If you’re being intentionally hyperbolic / histrionic to make a point about the hyperbolic and histrionic narrative coming from Trump and his team, then I’m right there with you.

You weren’t really clear about who you thought the shooter was coordinating with on the "burner" phone, or who you were blaming.

I think I get your point now.

 

[Pad_Foot]

No information on what numbers were on the burner has been released.

I’m glad my number isn’t one of them

 

[ByteMe13]

Well that ^ is an interesting take.



We're talking about some next level crazy if Trump and his cabal orchestrated the whole thing.



They were willing to risk murder charges if someone in the crowd died (which they did) and they were found out???



That ^ would be craaaaaazy.

The Trump train to Crazytown left the station years ago

 

[RobDownSouth]

You have to believe that the SS is incompetent for this version to be plausible.

I disagree to a point. The Secret Service does the best job they can do, given that they are charged with the protection of someone who revels in not paying attention. Remember when he threw a hissy fit and punched his Secret Service driver who refused to take him to the Capitol building on Jan 6, 2021?

There was an "active shooter" situation going on in real time and all convicted felon Donald J. Trump could think about was "good optics". He wormed his way through his security blanket of SS agents covering him up, solely so the press could get pictures of him shaking his tiny pink fist in the air and snarling defiantly. This was after he'd spread the blood from his cut across his face. He learned that trick in the WWE

 

[Lazaran]

The Trump train to Crazytown left the station years ago

Fair point.

And if what you are suggesting is true, then that train just arrived in Crazytown station.

 

[ByteMe13]

I disagree to a point. The Secret Service does the best job they can do, given that they are charged with the protection of someone who revels in not paying attention. Remember when he threw a hissy fit and punched his Secret Service driver who refused to take him to the Capitol building on Jan 6, 2021?

There was an "active shooter" situation going on in real time and all convicted felon Donald J. Trump could think about was "good optics". He wormed his way through his security blanket of SS agents covering him up, solely so the press could get pictures of him shaking his tiny pink fist in the air and snarling defiantly. This was after he'd spread the blood from his cut across his face. He learned that trick in the WWE

I think you are making my point that this was staged.

 

[ByteMe13]

Does anyone know how SS agents are assigned to the Trump detail? I’d think he can say yea or nay for particular agents. If do, he could easily surround himself with loyalists.

 

[butters]

So? Get me out of the weeds?
How many bullets?
How many injuries ?

The burner phone is a fact. What it will turn up? Who knows?

Non dealers use burner phones ? Expensive habit

Weeds??? The Trumplikans are lining this all up on the Secret Service, police and FBI

Trump told them to allow guns into the Jan 6 rally. Did they listen to their boss?

i will go check for the link... it was to an article i liked earlier, i think.
the authorities have said there's nothing unusual about the numbers on the burner phone, more atypical of any 20 year old male. sounds like porn and guns and pizza and drugs, perhaps.

edit: not seeing it under the cited link, so either that comment's been removed or i read it elsewhere.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Economic Times reporting on search terms sought most frequently in the hour after Trump got his ear pierced.

1. "Trump shot/Trump shooting"
2. "Staged"
3. "Antifa activist"

Number one was expected, of course.
Number two shows just how jaded people are nowadays.
Number three shows how good MAGA messaging can be, circulating lurid theories to drum up support for Teh Revolution.

 

[butters]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s/trump-shooter-phone-biden-dnc-b2581649.html

kind of looks like he wasn't hung up on any political ideology but was more intent on making himself infamous

Rally shooter’s phones held information about both Trump and Biden and searches for the dates of the DNC

Gunman searched for dates of Trump’s public events as well as for the Democratic National Convention, officials say

The gunman also searched for Wray, Attorney General Merrick Garland, as well as a member of the British royal family, two officials told the paper.

Officials also told lawmakers during the calls there were signs that the shooter had concerns about his mental health, noting that on the phone Crooks left at home, he searched for “major depressive disorder,” a person on the calls said.

 

[Lazaran]

^pure TDS driven bullshit.

Transparency.

Or.

Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Derpy.



Derpy

 

[eric_erosfan]

Officials also told lawmakers during the calls there were signs that the shooter had concerns about his mental health, noting that on the phone Crooks left at home, he searched for “major depressive disorder,” a person on the calls said.

I think that is in the search history of 90% of the politics board participants.

 

[Intrigued42]

He has demonstrated an intractable spirit, the resilience and determination of a courageous leader. He has withstood all of what the left has thrown at him. As much as the left would wish to do so, It cannot be denied.

Sorry to be so late to the party but what planet did you swoop in from RG? This is one of the most lily-livered, chicken-sh** people the world has ever known. Do you need a list of his examples of cowardice? How many rounds of golf has he played since Saturday? I'm guessing at least 2 but then, why would anyone report on that stat? He is NOT a leader of any sort. My children and grandchildren should no longer have to endure this pos in any way, shape or form. I assume you're voting for him. Vote early and vote often, as they say. I'm sure you will. Lefty? You betcha! And proud of it.

 

[Lazaran]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s/trump-shooter-phone-biden-dnc-b2581649.html

kind of looks like he wasn't hung up on any political ideology but was more intent on making himself infamous

OK. The shooter likely WAS a troubled individual:

So now we have to look at the major influences (environmental / political) on the shooter’s troubled mind:

a) The shooter was living in a Libertarian household filled with guns…(There really is no “b)”

This latest information supports the idea that the shooter’s Libertarian background was a key factor: The shooter targeting Democrats AND "republicans" AND the English monarchy tracks perfectly with a Libertarian influenced mindset. The shooter’s unnatural affinity for guns also tracks perfectly with Libertarian influenced mindset.



Side note:

It is also important to consider how the drumming of the Libertarian ideology into the shooters brain during his developmental years might have contributed to his mental issues (and social issues.)

 

[ll74]

Correlation is not causation

 

[Lazaran]

"Some people" can’t comprehend the point that was being made - or why it was being made:



Meanwhile:

THE FACTS IN EVIDENCE involving the MAJOR INFLUENCES that LIKELY contributed to the shooter’s decision making / choices - and MIGHT have contributed to the shooter’s mental issues - are unassailable.



Hope that ^ helps - "Some people".

.

"Some people"

 

[ll74]

He ate a lot of McDonalds

Big Macs make people shoot others

Sorry

Big Macs contribute to people's desire to shoot ex Presidents

Eureka

 

[Lazaran]

"Some people" haven’t the first clue about human psychology or factually and morally defensible counter-narratives…



"Some people"

 

[Philthy_Phil]

"Some people" can’t comprehend the point that was being made - or why it was being made:



Meanwhile:

THE FACTS IN EVIDENCE involving the MAJOR INFLUENCES that LIKELY contributed to the shooter’s decision making / choices - and MIGHT have contributed to the shooter’s mental issues - are unassailable.



Hope that ^ helps - "Some people".

.

"Some people"

"Some people" are fucking retarded spammers.

 

[ll74]

There are a ton of libertarians in the world.

Are they all at risk of becoming mass shooters more than other ideologies?

Making connections that you invent with your biases doesn't deserve a counter argument other than pointing out the stupidity of your argument.

 

[dkovic77]

Trust me, you won't ever have the top bunk.

No, hmm… I’m sure your tiny weak self wouldn’t be able to stop a 7yo girl from taking it from you…just will need the cameras there so I can make it into a shirt.

Your side sure does like their smackdown shirts… I will enjoy that one!

People will say, “who is that little girl picking on? He must have deserved it. “

 

[eric_erosfan]

OK. The shooter likely WAS a troubled individual:

So now we have to look at the major influences (environmental / political) on the shooter’s troubled mind:

a) The shooter was living in a Libertarian household filled with guns…(There really is no “b)”

This latest information supports the idea that the shooter’s Libertarian background was a key factor: The shooter targeting Democrats AND "republicans" AND the English monarchy tracks perfectly with a Libertarian influenced mindset. The shooter’s unnatural affinity for guns also tracks perfectly with Libertarian influenced mindset.



Side note:

It is also important to consider how the drumming of the Libertarian ideology into the shooters brain during his developmental years might have contributed to his mental issues (and social issues.)

Your fixation on Libertarians makes you sound like a Schizophrenic.

 

[Lazaran]

Your fixation on Libertarians makes you sound like a Schizophrenic.

There is a specific purpose for it:

It’s part perfectly sound fact based profiling of the shooter and his possible motive, part fact based counter-narrative to the MAGAt’s -“its all the Democrats fault” - post - shooting bullshit narrative, and it also serves to highlight the insane gun culture in America and the danger of domestic anarchistic ideology in America..

But it is MAINLY intended to be a giant Fuck you to the RWCJ on this board who are lying and gaslighting about who is to blame for this event and, well, EVERYTHING.

And the Libertarians are a big part of the RWCJ here on the PB, so…



Also:

I’m not really sure why any non-MAGAt would be bothered by the content of those posts???

 

[eric_erosfan]

There is a specific purpose for it:

It’s part perfectly sound fact based profiling of the shooter and his possible motive, part fact based counter-narrative to the MAGAt’s -“its all the Democrats fault” - post - shooting bullshit narrative, and it also serves to highlight the insane gun culture in America and the danger of domestic anarchistic ideology in America..

But it is MAINLY intended to be a giant Fuck you to the RWCJ on this board who are lying and gaslighting about who is to blame for this event and, well, EVERYTHING.

And the Libertarians are a big part of the RWCJ here on the PB, so…



Also:

I’m not really sure why any non-MAGAt would be bothered by the content of those posts???

I mean I have Libertarian leanings. I think most people I have ever worked with in the high tech world do. If we could rely on our fellow humans to not be dumbasses I think everyone would gravitate to personal liberty.