Since when is being proud of your country a bad thing?

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

I mean Aren't we supposed to love where we live even through the good as well as the bad.

Waving my flag isn't a support of the government I may not love.

Waving my flag, showing my patriotism is showing the love of the land I call home.

Whats wrong with expressing our love?

Whats wrong with our expression of loving pulling us together?

Whats wrong with our patriotism binding us together?

Or

Are we supposed to be silent ans salient and express no love for our lands, our countries, our niegbours and his wife?

 

[alexandraaah]

say it loud and proud...except the part about your neighbor's wife.

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

say it loud and proud...except the part about your neighbor's wife.

how bout his daughters then?

 

[alexandraaah]

how bout his daughters then?

You'll have to take your own chances on that one.
Last time I checked, though, my parent's were not your neighbors.

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

You'll have to take your own chances on that one.
Last time I checked, though, my parent's were not your neighbors.

sniffles

 

[alexandraaah]

sniffles

What I meant is that you must have mistaken your neighbor alexandraaah for me.

There's so many of us out there, I understand the confusion.

 

[mig]

Let's get serious.

Yes you should respect your country,but should you,or can you,
support your country when it does something that is wrong
to your way of thinking.

 

[alexandraaah]

Let's get serious.

Yes you should respect your country,but should you,or can you,
support your country when it does something that is wrong
to your way of thinking.

example being...?
you have something in mind, help me put it into context.

my immediate answer though, is "i have no idea" it's such a tough call. are you dismissing your own morals and expectations by showing full respect to anyone or thing for that matter that may have done something reprehensible?

 

[NoRegrets]

Whats wrong with our patriotism binding us together?

There is nothing wrong with patriotism except that it often seems to morph into jingoism.

 

[phrodeau]

I mean Aren't we supposed to love where we live even through the good as well as the bad.

Waving my flag isn't a support of the government I may not love.

Waving my flag, showing my patriotism is showing the love of the land I call home.

Whats wrong with expressing our love?

Whats wrong with our expression of loving pulling us together?

Whats wrong with our patriotism binding us together?

Or

Are we supposed to be silent ans salient and express no love for our lands, our countries, our niegbours and his wife?

Is a flag representative of a government or a section of land? I like my neighborhood well enough, but I know it's not the best place for everyone.

The thing to remember is that political bodies and governments, like gods, were created by humans to control themselves. None are perfect, infallible, or entirely just. None are worthy of blind reverence or pride. They are simply the best we can do under the circumstances, and seem to work well enough.

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

Re: Re: Since when is being proud of your country a bad thing?

Is a flag representative of a government or a section of land? I like my neighborhood well enough, but I know it's not the best place for everyone.

That is what I am trying to find out is if the flag is representive of the of a countyr or its governement.

For example is the red and white maple leaf flag representive of Canada or the Liberal government that is in power.

Is the Red and white stripes and the 50 stars on blue representitive of USA or is it representive of the Republican government in control.

 

[android1966]

I personally believe the flag represents your country. You can love your country while detesting your government.Myself, I have a union jack tattooed on my chest and the four flags of the union on my arm, but think all politicians left and right are lying, self serving, self satisfied tossers.

 

[Jimi]

Diff'rent Strokes

Let's get serious.

Yes you should respect your country,but should you,or can you,
support your country when it does something that is wrong
to your way of thinking.

Todd and I don't have to worry about that... In the geopolitical reality, our huge but tiny land has about the same influence as Luxembourg..

Having attended highschool in the US when my buds were getting drafted to SE Asia, I understand where you're coming from, however...

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

Re: Diff'rent Strokes

Todd and I don't have to worry about that... In the geopolitical reality, our huge but tiny land has about the same influence as Luxembourg..

when did canada get that much Influence?

 

[Jimi]

Re: Re: Diff'rent Strokes

when did canada get that much Influence?

Silly fucker... ROFLMAO

And you, from Dalton Camp & Irving country...

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

Re: Re: Re: Diff'rent Strokes

Silly fucker... ROFLMAO

And you, from Dalton Camp & Irving country...

Irving, we don't let no irving live around these parts, they just won like 90% of the provicne.

but you got me on the Dalton Camp reference, I don't recognize it.

But seriously, I know third world countries that have more pull than Canada

and whats with out leadership?

I have seen more of our Deputy/Vice Prime Minister in the last week than i have seen of the Prime minister himself in the last 8 years

 

[EthiopianPrince]

Todd,

I'm proud of YOUR country... your country is Canada, and has universal health care.

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

Todd,

I'm proud of YOUR country... your country is Canada, and has universal health care.

Obviously you have never had to experience this 'universal' health care.

It's only universal if you go on welfare.

If your the working slob joe smo screw any hopes of the 'universal' health care.

Your more likely to hear such excuses as, "Men don't get taht go home" or "Women don't get that go home"

or if your lucky enough to get into a doctor after waiting for 8-10 hours make sure you video tape or audio tape the whole thing cause 7 out of every 10 diagnoses are wrong

 

[Jimi]

Healthy care?

Obviously you have never had to experience this 'universal' health care.

It's only universal if you go on welfare.

If your the working slob joe smo screw any hopes of the 'universal' health care.

Your more likely to hear such excuses as, "Men don't get taht go home" or "Women don't get that go home"

or if your lucky enough to get into a doctor after waiting for 8-10 hours make sure you video tape or audio tape the whole thing cause 7 out of every 10 diagnoses are wrong

C'mon Todd!

That's overstating the case a bit... we do have waiting lists for some procedures, but the "for profit" system in the States has them too.

And as for mis-diagnoses, even in our system, the patient has an ABSOLUTE RIGHT to ask for, and GET, a second opinion.

I live in a VERY rural and backwrad County in Ontario - and even with the cutbacks on service, we get damn good care, IMHO

New Brunswick, I suspect, isn't really much different than my part of Ontario...

Ask any of our dear friends to the South if medical care is consistent across the Lower 48...

Peace, Bro!

 

[Samuari]

Let's get serious.

Yes you should respect your country,but should you,or can you,
support your country when it does something that is wrong
to your way of thinking.

You know mig, Nixon was right: it is "My counrty, right or wrong." That makes it imperitave that when it is wrong that you become engaged in corecting the problem. But do stop loving your country just because you hate some of the things that it is doing? I don't, and didn't. I was so discusted with LBJ's procusion of the Viet Nam conflict that I became heavily involved with GOP politics. then I was discusted the Nixon and was part odf the team that got McClusky his only votes at the '72 convention.

I can tell you right now is the time to get involved if you want to be heard. The money folks will always have access, as will the folks that have networked into the party (all three of them), but if some one who has never been involved in it wants to make an impact, now is the time to get down to your party's county headquarters and let them know that you want to help, wiether it answering phones, stuffing envelopes, or serving cake and coffee. There will be plenty of folks to do these things later on, but right now they are gold, and right now THEY WILL HAVE THE TIME TO LISTEN TO YOUR OPPINION.