Sexual Harassment

[jenni_bean]

I was having a conversion with another Lit person earlier today which raised an interesting take on sexual harassment. If two people are having consensual sex but the he pulls out of wherever and ejaculates on her face without her permission is that sexual harassment? I wonder how much a jury would award in damages...

 

[Funnbrandy]

Hmmmm

I was having a conversion with another Lit person earlier today which raised an interesting take on sexual harassment. If two people are having consensual sex but the he pulls out of wherever and ejaculates on her face without her permission is that sexual harassment? I wonder how much a jury would award in damages...

Isn't that pretty much hoe the Kobe Bryant case went, lol.....seriously though, pretty sure it was all consensual until he pulled out, came on her face and she felt used......and lawsuit. Don't get me wrong, I think it is a form of sexual harassment, even during intercourse there can be sexual harassment.

 

[jenni_bean]

Isn't that pretty much hoe the Kobe Bryant case went, lol.....seriously though, pretty sure it was all consensual until he pulled out, came on her face and she felt used......and lawsuit. Don't get me wrong, I think it is a form of sexual harassment, even during intercourse there can be sexual harassment.

I never knew that. I bet she got paid a lot of money to drop it. You are right though. I might not be too upset about someone shooting on my face but if he got really rough and hurt me it would certainly qualify as sexual harassment and maybe more. Fortunately that has never happened.

 

[curious_nick]

I think it would count more as sexual assault then harassment

 

[HeyAll]

No because they were having sex, and although it lacked ettiquite, it doesnt meet anything that would require damages.

A more interesting scenario is if two coworkers were about to fuck in the closet for the first time, she's bent over, and he purposefully shoves his cock up her ass by surprise. There you'd have physical pain.

 

[curious_nick]

No because they were having sex, and although it lacked ettiquite, it doesnt meet anything that would require damages.

A more interesting scenario is if two coworkers were about to fuck in the closet for the first time, she's bent over, and he purposefully shoves his cock up her ass by surprise. There you'd have physical pain.

yeah, for him.

 

[HeavyBalls]

I think it would count more as sexual assault then harassment

I'm leaning towards this...

 

[ReadyOne]

My HR training defines harassment as "anything action that makes another uncomfortable". If the action is sexual, then the harassment is sexual.

That's a little too strong for me -- one person can not read another's mind to know in advance that they will be uncomfortable. And "sexual" isn't always the same black and white for those involved.

So I would also require that the action either:

• be repeated, or be loosely similar to the original, after being informed that it made the receive uncomfortable.
• be grossly categorically offensive, which a large number of people would find uncomfortable.
• be outside the bounds of an ongoing courting or sexual relationship between the parties.

Here's my reasoning:

• The first covers name calling, complements, innocuous requests. "Hello Sunshine!", "Hot date tonight?", "Your outfit is very revealing,", "Would you bring in the coffee?" Say the word, and expect it to stop.
• The second covers ass grabbing, "show me your boobs", greeting hugs and kisses, sexual favors ("be nice and you can have first shift"), etc.
• The third cuts some slack where couples are already involved and expect such behavior from the other. If either doesn't want it (anymore), they should speak up. But when action bothers others, it's the third party that counts.

Now sexual assault is a different subject...

• Non-consensual assault (using the legal definition) during a sexual encounter is exactly that, and either party may consider it sexual assault.
• Relationships can absorb assault, if both parties believe the cost of the assault is less than the benefits of continuing the relationship.
• Some technical assaults are unintentional, and the parties should be allowed to agree they are accidents.

 

[Nezhul]

I think it's overstepping the limits. Not sexual harassment. Otherwise a lot of things could be called that. Gee, he came before you did, that really sucked = sexual harassment.

No. For me, sexual harassment is when someone keeps nagging you with sexual propositions or does something sexual to you when there are no signals on your part that you are interested, or even clear signs that you are not.
When you have already agreed for sex, then abuse can happen, or he could simply be a jerk about some things, but it will not be sexual harassment.