September 11th is 22 days away....

#1tankcomander

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and all over the nation the Military is beefing up security at national monuments, large dams, Military Bases, ETC.....

Are we to ASSUME that the stupid jerks are going to try it again?

Just like some thoughts on this.....


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#1tankcomander said:
and all over the nation the Military is beefing up security at national monuments, large dams, Military Bases, ETC.....

Are we to ASSUME that the stupid jerks are going to try it again?

Just like some thoughts on this.....


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Oh someone will try something eventually, somewhere.

Maybe not the people who did it originally, but people who have been given the ideas.

Unfortunately, terrorism will never be stamped out as there will always be someone willing to step into the place a martyr just left.

Just keep in mind though, that "Muslim Extremist" is to Islam, what the KKK is to Christianity.
 
The thought nauseates me. I have considered hiding in bed that day. I don't think I can relive all the pictures etc that will be all over the place that day.
 
I plan on watching alot of movies and playing alot of video games that day ... I have enough mental pictures of 9/11 fresh in my mind. I don't need to see any more.
 
on that fateful day I was working in Grandbury, TX and heard it on the radio and no more than a few minutes my wife called and asked if I heard what happend. I wondered if I was going to get deployed very soon, but I did end up going to the DFW airport on 1 October 2001 to do security for almost 8 months! Now I face going to Kuait! :eek:
 
Like other people have said, I am more afraid of the news coverage that day than another attack.

Do they have to keep ripping open that wound again and again and again?
 
Pyper said:
Like other people have said, I am more afraid of the news coverage that day than another attack.

Do they have to keep ripping open that wound again and again and again?

i think it has to do with people's morbid curiousity bringing in the ratings.
 
QuickDuck said:


i think it has to do with people's morbid curiousity bringing in the ratings.

What MORE could they possibly have to be curious about? Hasn't this thing been done to death?
 
Pyper said:


What MORE could they possibly have to be curious about? Hasn't this thing been done to death?

oh definately... i am not arguing that point at all.

I was just looking from the media's point of view.
 
We are going to war to take the world back from the "evil doers", if all Americans get sick by watching something on TV they've already seen before, we really are screwed. Figuratively it'd be like a doctor becoming physically sick because a patient came in with a broken leg. A lotta people on both sides are gonna fall in a campaign of this magnitude. It's a major reason why Islamic fundamentalists think they can fuck with us. I think Lost Cause is a lunatic but I'd much rather be fighting next to him than someone that is emotionally distraught from what they saw on TV. Remember and honor victims and patriots but don't let it turn you into an emotionalized wimp, especially when there's a lotta fightin' still to do in the near future.
 
Pyper said:


What MORE could they possibly have to be curious about? Hasn't this thing been done to death?


Yes it has been done to death! And I don't even live in the US, so I can't even imagine what you guys are going through. I think some kind of tribute would be nice, but do we really need to see all of those images again?
 
I think it's ok to remember, but, to dwell on it. You're right, it's been done to death, move along.
 
Pamela said:



Yes it has been done to death! And I don't even live in the US, so I can't even imagine what you guys are going through. I think some kind of tribute would be nice, but do we really need to see all of those images again?

This was really my point. Those very images, that for some were just traumatizing to think about, let alone see, will be played over and over all day long. Yes, it is a day to remember. Forever. A day in our nation's history. One of those days that people will forever ask..."What were you doing when you heard?"
But, those images alone are traumatizing. And just because some people can not stomach them does not mean they are emotional wimps. In fact, its quite the opposite. They feel so deeply for what happened to the victims in those towers that it pains them to see it. Not everyone can feel so powerfully. Its another testimony to human emotion of that day. Wimps? Hardly. Humans, definitely. I worry about the emotional state of anyone who can be so callous about such raw emotion of others.
 
Has anyone seen those tapes that are being sold during the commercial breaks on CNN about 9/11? Isn't it a little early to be commercializing the whole thing? At least make the proceeds go to some charity or something.
 
People like me volunteer or get drafted for big wars, this will be a huge war. Callousness is needed for me to even consider giving up 50-75years of my life for people that think they are involved because they hold deep sympathy for victims. Sympathy is overrated, to me victory is more important.
 
Strong emotions are one thing, but I'm more worried about the desensitizing effect of this thing being done over and over again.

It gets to the point where you say, "Oh, there goes a plane crashing into the World Trade Center again," and you change the channel.

This shouldn't happen. The memory of that day and how we felt should live on in our hearts, not be cheapened by daily slow-motion repeats and 19.95 home videos.
 
70/30 said:
People like me volunteer or get drafted for big wars, this will be a huge war. Callousness is needed for me to even consider giving up 50-75years of my life for people that think they are involved because they hold deep sympathy for victims. Sympathy is overrated, to me victory is more important.

For most of the men who go to fight this war I have respect. I know, in my heart as well as from speaking to some of them, that they feel. Deeply. I have to say anyone who says they feel no sympathy is lying. And, if you didn't feel sympathy, you wouldn't give a damn about fighting, would you? You wouldn't come back to this thread over and over to tell me how much you don't care.
 
Sure I care and it sucks but by no means was I shocked by it. I never shed a tear for any of this but I'd be willing to fight (if Gore was rightfully put into office I really think I would have already enlisted but that is a different story). I don't need memorials, a slogan, a bumper sticker, or flags everywhere-to me that is meant to be the general public's fodder not mine.

We need more desensitizing if we are gonna fight a lotta wars and we can't have parents that are emotional and completely unwilling to let their kids go to war. My opinion is if you aren't a vet, willing to go, or you aren't willing to send a relative then you shouldn't publicly be proWAR. One of the few reasons I'd be conflicted about going is I don't wanna fight for tough guys like JAZZYjim or some soccer mom that is afraid she is being "traumatized" by the TV but I could get past it.

FYI-I'm glad we have guys like TANKER on our side but we need more of 'em. I just don't think harping on 9/11 and crying all the time shows our enemies the best message. That being: we feel 1 American lost can only be justified with 20+Iraqis being killed. To me reality says we have to come to grips with about a 1 to 5 tradeoff in fatalities.
 
Is it just me or would the date to watch be the same date on the ISLAMIC calender? September 11th to us is not September the 11th to them!
 
70/30 said:
Sure I care and it sucks but by no means was I shocked by it. I never shed a tear for any of this but I'd be willing to fight (if Gore was rightfully put into office I really think I would have already enlisted but that is a different story). I don't need memorials, a slogan, a bumper sticker, or flags everywhere-to me that is meant to be the general public's fodder not mine.

We need more desensitizing if we are gonna fight a lotta wars and we can't have parents that are emotional and completely unwilling to let their kids go to war. My opinion is if you aren't a vet, willing to go, or you aren't willing to send a relative then you shouldn't publicly be proWAR. One of the few reasons I'd be conflicted about going is I don't wanna fight for tough guys like JAZZYjim or some soccer mom that is afraid she is being "traumatized" by the TV but I could get past it.

FYI-I'm glad we have guys like TANKER on our side but we need more of 'em. I just don't think harping on 9/11 and crying all the time shows our enemies the best message. That being: we feel 1 American lost can only be justified with 20+Iraqis being killed. To me reality says we have to come to grips with about a 1 to 5 tradeoff in fatalities.

I haven't heard such a load of shit since Nam. It came from a 2 LT., the day before I put him in his body bag. You have much to learn son.
 
Do I sence a contradiction? I may be a war monger in many peoples eyes, but I to am tired of the liberal whiners! If they gave a shit in the first place, it might make a difference. If they forgot they hold stock in foreign oil it might be different. But that is not the case. If we do go to Irac, it won't be for humanitarian reasons! Somebody will get rich off it. That's just how it is.

Remember, our military are here to preserve the freedom that so many take for granted! Just think if Hitler had won the world by domination, what would life be like for us today? We could be speaking German or Japanese! Weather or not if a fight in Irac, it won't be for our freedom or anyone elses. It will be only benificial to the share holders, oil kings, and those who have stock in manufacturing war machines.

I'll go because it's my duty. I may not like the reasons why, but I'll go.

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Worm said:
Isn't it a little early to be commercializing the whole thing? At least make the proceeds go to some charity or something.

The whole thing was commercialized the moment the first truckload of red, white and blue t-shirts and purses and whatever else rolled into the first Walmart. My personal favorite was the commercials for those 5 packs of American Flags they were running on the cable channels all damn day, cause you can never have enough American Flags (and it was only $19.95!!). Christ, we even had people here going door to door selling American Flags at one point last fall.

Too many people believe that Patriotism means blind devotion to the government and its symbols. But America is so much more than that.

I find it kinda amusing that people are that concerned that the people who pulled off the attacks of 9/11 will do so again on the anniversary just because it's the anniversary. That's the problem with Americans, too hung up on symbolism and no understanding of patience. The next attack will come 3 years from now, or 5 years from now, or whatever time we've all but forgotten. And it will come on April 19th, or June 30th, or December 2nd or any other day with absolutely no meaning.

9/11/2002 is one of the few days I'll actually feel safe.
 
It will be Wednesday so I'll be watching Star Trek. Oh, and it will be the second week of school so I'll be working on my first paper.
 
Commercialism

This is what I hate about the whole thing. The media, true to form, latched onto this and blew it away. For weeks you couldn't even find out what the weather in your home town was going to be because even your local news station couldn't air anything else. The major stations found it was a fabulous way to boost their ratings. Now if that's not morbid, what is? Using this to better your ratings? C'mon...gimme a break.
 
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