Rape, I can't believe.................

[Wolf_Song]

Yes rape...and not just rape, but even the brutalization of consenting women like prostitutes and others...

Such people belong in cages with rights others enjoy taken away from them and them living to find that out for the rest of their lives.

You know that thread I made the other day about the Saudis abducting women here for sex slaves? I mentioned that was just part of one article in a three article series of abuses against women forced into the sex trade, abused, raped, and sometimes killed.

Every country in the world has at one time practiced in slavery of one form or another. And done no less horrid than the claims of that specific story. Whether as the buyers, sellers or keepers of slaves for any and all despicable acts upon those treated thusly. We in the western world have abolished this for ourselves in a span of time in the history of humanity that is just a blink of an eye.

With the Saudi story as with all slave circuits it will be found it isnt just the Saudi's whom are involved in this market. We have our fair share of non-humanitarians in the western world to. With noting that it is only a few elite Saudi's whom would be able to afford these specific slaves mentioned. Thus not all Saudi's should be held in account for the crimes of their kindred.

I am not pro-slavery but hating Saudi's for something that we in western world were once guilty of will bring only regretable acts. One of them being war, where since the beginning of last century 90% of all those whom lost lives were civilians. Before that period in time it was mostly reversed where the soldiers were those that incured the greatest losses of life. Neither scenario is better than the other when it comes to civilians or soldiers dying.

Hell, not only have I never raped anyone but I haven't even had sex with one yet. But still, just reading all that pain and suffering inflicted upon women (and sometimes boys too) by so many men made me feel bad just to be member of the male gender.

It is deplorable these acts that you speak of and I agree with you. Having gone through the same of feeling bad to be a male when women have been treated thusly in current times and history. Nor is it any less horrible when males go through rape either. But the fact remains that in a our dominantly patriarchal society not enough is getting done about all of this. Need equal representation of males and females in government for this among many issues to be addressed better.

Too be fair I do sometimes hear about women raping boys and girls and occasionally men. But still, so many seem to be occuring by men that it makes me wonder sometimes what's wrong with my fellow mankind?

Biggest problem is that people get to caught up in blindly following fundamentalist dogma and distractions. With not communicating enough about so many issues, rape being one of them. The statistics one sees on rape dont always include those whom have been molested with out penetration taking place.

With either rape or molestation the biggest problem is the silence of victims which isnt there fault in entirety. They need support of friends, family and society to know its ok to speak out and that something will be done about it.

When nations and individuals get better at dealing with issues globally and internally with political and personal differences aside. With putting lives of people and their well being first above all other considerations then things will be a lot better.

 

[70/30]

See, Jake be gettin illy when the sun get dark
They be comin out the heads, but shit don't let me start
Their activities are plenty in nighttime(nighttime)
For the ghetto child, it seems to be the right time
See, kids be gettin stuck with jewels and fly gimmicks
Shorty see the action and then start to mimic
Runnin to the corner, the dice game is blazin
Lookin at the loot, it seems so amazin
Puts it short down, to be exact would bound
He shakes the stones in his hand, then he lets it down(uh!)
Scam money don't make none
He threw a trip on the ace, now he's out son
Hits the local bodega to woof down a hero
Son is on a 'Midnight Run' like De Niro

 

[sigh]

live your life without worrying about some fucking loser rapist.

You are such a comsummate, arrogant asshole that you actually think you have a clue about this. It's so easy to stand outside the pain and tell others how to deal with theirs when you've never been touched by the pain yourself. It's so easy to be smug and tough in your street-smart, bantam-rooster world when that world hasn't taken a huge bite out of your butt like it has so many others.

It's too LATE for me to not worry about my fucking loser rapist because he already invaded my world, years ago, and turned it upside-fucking-down. Turn on the lights, you say, and carry a knife but I was in my own bedroom, in my parents house, with the lights on in the daytime and it didn't make any difference, and even if I'd had a knife what would a fifteen year old girl do with it? I was less than five feet tall and weighed close to ninety pounds and he was a fully grown man.

Claw his eyes out. What a fucking moron you are.

It's time to check into reality. It's time to realize that whether you like it or not, or think this place is relevant or not, there are people posting here at lit who are living with a world of horrid baggage, and whether you intend to or not your words add acid to their wounds. Your callousness is unforgivable. Your coldness, frightening.

Go away, little man. Go the fuck away.

 

[70/30]

I thought that is a portion of what I was saying, take your life back whether something has happened or you are scared something will happen. Use your animal instincts, get mad then move on. It seems like the loser rapist people usually do it for the power, don't continue to give it to them. Maybe that can be your chance to figuratively rip some eyes out.

Personally, I'm Boris Grishenko and I'm invincible, whether by talent or chance I don't care.

 

[tenyari]

Ladies/Men, for any of you that have been raped...

Good to mention men there.
I actually know some men who have been raped.

Seem's my stepfather's family has some issues. Step cousins did it to some male relatives, and a step uncle did it to my half sister.

To this day the family denies all claims, up to my stepfather refusing to admit his own daughter was asaulted and never understanding why she no longer wants to be 'his little girl'.

I got lucky in all this. At the critical age for me my mother left the guy and took me with her.

 

[intrigued]

I know that everyone here has blocked me(regret consumes me) but the Erotic Stories branches of this very site has 1430 stories in the category of NonConsent Sex. I think that is a little worse than me saying in an abrasive manner, live your life without worrying about some fucking loser rapist. Kids are a different story I agree, but adults have a partial responsibility to learn how to defend themselves. If some dude tried to rape me up the ass, I'd fucking rip his eyeballs out and/or sever his cock. To me fighting back is worth the risk, people have died for a lot less noble reasons. The power is within you, not in some support group or sob fest.

God help you should you have ever something happen to you in your life that shakes you to the core so completely that a part of you dies.
Was YOUR virginity ripped from you by a grown man when you did not even know what the hell your virginity was??? Was your trust in the very people in your life who were supposed to protect you and nurture you ripped from YOU??? You know, human beings have an infinite amount of compassion and the ability to care for others, be they someone on top of the world (yeah, much more attractive huh?) or be they someone broken into tiny little pieces and living their life breath by breath...its a fucking damn shame you missed the boat. Were we truly meant to live our lives NOT sharing our experiences with others for the sole purpose of helping them...to show understanding, support, to share tools and insight??? I get something tremendous out of offering myself to others, i get something out of a kind note from someone who has never spoken a word to me before that says to me..."You helped me today. You gave me hope." You can't beat that, not with anything.
Yeah, I get something out of knowing that I am not the only person who has lived a life of never feeling right in my own skin, of feeling like a fucked up oddball who will never be "normal" again...yeah, i get something out of the kindness and compassion of a total stranger whose heart I might have touched that took the time to say, "I feel for you". I'll tell you why, too. It gives me a sense of hope, a renewal of strength and faith, it tells me that not every one, contrary to what I have lived and known, is out for themselves and to hell with you. I have been chewed up, spit out and left for dead so many times that in my little world of RAPE, broken trust and solitude, I met each new person with my eyes down, standing before them exposed and JUST WAITING for them to get what they want and LEAVE, so much so that I actually starting cutting to the chase, and just said "here, take it...nice knowing you."
I suppose no one has ever given you a smile? No one has ever made YOUR day simply performing some selfless act that was EVERYTHING to you, though maybe minor to them? Explain to me then the unbelieveable beautiful reality that unfolds each and every time we face the trauma and chaos of natural disasters...what is it you call that thing that happens when you see, bit by bit, the world rushing to the aid of those who lost their loved ones, their homes, who stand up, look around for something resembling reality, only to find that life as they knew it will never be again, their whole world is turned upside down. My point is that no, we aren't meant to go it alone, we aren't meant to FIGHT our way through life ripping out eye balls and severing cocks, though at this moment.......
Sob Fest, huh?? Were I only able able to sob...you have NO idea of that which you speak of.

Granted, you said one thing of merit, and that is that we should all learn to protect ourselves, in more ways than one.

Further, your mention of Erotic Non Consent Stories here is so off the mark...its stories....see?? Stories!

 

[intrigued]

Fine put her in my exceptions list along with the kids. In most cases, I don't believe in psychoanalysis bullshit and support group sob fests. In most cases adults should be responsible for defending themselves, if you want power sometimes you have to work for it. I live in a large metro area with gangs and such and I purposely go wherever I want, whenever I want because I know in a threatening situation somebody else is going to get fucked up worse than me. Animals we are, I'll choose to fight because I can fight. If one can't then maybe they have to take whatever comes around but in the end I'll still say the power (usually) lies within you.

I shouldn't be able to cause a visceral reaction from dumbass comments I post-I don't give a fuck about what anyone says about me on here. Sometimes that can be a good quality but obviously I don't consider web forums to be steeped in reality and I don't want to meet anyone on it. Others take things personally because they associate it with their actual lives, since I care most about myself I'll choose to perceive things my own way.

FYI-I too have not had sex before by choice, I kind of view myself as a wannabe Enjolras(from Les Mis) revolutionary figure. But part of it is the true love myth that I don't see others pursuing fervently enough. Maybe tomorrow I'll revert into my sensitive, pacifist self. I doubt it because times are trying and that attitude doesn't get it done unless things are on the way to being settled.

1. Kudos!! Hell yes, the power lies with us...thats why I am still here, and finally at this beautiful place inside. And yeah, I fought with every ounce of me to be here.

2. Are you steeped in reality???

3. Not everyone thinks like you.

4. For such a view as yours, why are you posting repeatedly in a thread such as this??

 

[intrigued]

I thought that is a portion of what I was saying, take your life back whether something has happened or you are scared something will happen. Use your animal instincts, get mad then move on. It seems like the loser rapist people usually do it for the power, don't continue to give it to them. Maybe that can be your chance to figuratively rip some eyes out.

Personally, I'm Boris Grishenko and I'm invincible, whether by talent or chance I don't care.

Ahhh....now you're talking. However, we aren't on/off switches...rape/abuse/broken trust isn't something you turn away from so easily. I assure you, if we could......

 

[weed]

70/30

No one is as invincible as you claim to be. As you grow older I think you will see this. I hope for your sake not the hard way although sometimes a little difficulty in your life can be a great teacher.

I wonder how you will feel about this subject in 15 or 20 years when life has had time to show you much more.

 

[iwmggw]

70/30

You talk a pretty good tough. ...............I wonder though, if you've ever been in a life and death situation. YOU WANT TO LIVE. People will do just about anything in the hopes of living. Its true that you can fight back, but who's to say that is going to work? Or , that fighting back, as you can see by some of these posts, is even an option. The problems so many survivors have, is GUILT. They may have chose not to fight back, maybe even acquiesce, during their nightmare, all in the hopes of living. When you come out alive, time causes you to replay events, actions, and to second guess decisions you made under extreme duress. Should have, could have, would have, is human nature, its a game you can't win. Its also human nature to try till time, therapy, love (both self and by others), or a combination of any of these, gets you to realize that its ok you made it..........and start to really live again. Only may be a part of you never does, or can't.

So talk tough about fighting..........but till you've been there. I've never been raped but I spent 18 months in SE Asia........and you never forget the trauma. So why not lay off the ladies, your arrogance and your ignorance is showing.

 

[Nomadic Lady]

Intrigued, to tell you the truth I don't know if I can keep talking about this. Read a couple more posts but couldn't read the rest. I just can't do this anymore. Every time I come in here it hurts. I haven't felt this much of an ache in my chest since the birth of my son. Tired of crying about what happened. Tired that I couldn't even talk to my family about this. Tired of taking anti-depressants. Tired of fucking crying. Just plain fucking tired of it. Don't want to think about it anymore. I had thought I put this behind me and moved on with my life but I obviously haven't. Please, please don't take this personally because I appreciate all you and everyone have said. Thought I could handle talking about it. But it will help me when the time comes in dealing my son. I won't be back here so no need to respond to my post. Know there are people that have been through more than I have but we all have our ways of dealing with it. Please don't think I'm being a bitch about this because that is not the case. I so sorry.

 

[Guest]

it is sad how many of us have been reaped...I was raped at 16 by my boyfriend of all people and I was a virgin. It took me a while to figure out he did rape me. I have been through a lot of therpay and have pretty good controll of myself and all the bad memories now.

 

[Lightning]

Great Post, Sigh...

Go away, little man. Go the fuck away.

Now comes the hard part. Forget him, and ignore him. The more we pay attention, the more he feels entitled to stay on his soap box.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one, and they very often stink.

 

[intrigued]

Intrigued, to tell you the truth I don't know if I can keep talking about this. Read a couple more posts but couldn't read the rest. I just can't do this anymore. Every time I come in here it hurts. I haven't felt this much of an ache in my chest since the birth of my son. Tired of crying about what happened. Tired that I couldn't even talk to my family about this. Tired of taking anti-depressants. Tired of fucking crying. Just plain fucking tired of it. Don't want to think about it anymore. I had thought I put this behind me and moved on with my life but I obviously haven't. Please, please don't take this personally because I appreciate all you and everyone have said. Thought I could handle talking about it. But it will help me when the time comes in dealing my son. I won't be back here so no need to respond to my post. Know there are people that have been through more than I have but we all have our ways of dealing with it. Please don't think I'm being a bitch about this because that is not the case. I so sorry.

No dear, this is why I have not been here today. Cant handle it anymore.
Its OK...and I am terribly sorry for your pain. I am holding you in my mind.

 

[70/30]

Spots the shorty rock standin on his block
The thieves be handlin in the pumps,so he asked it it's not
Conversation that he kicked to the shorty was a sly one
Increased intensity, his dance sure was a fly one
Took her to the crib there she ran her gibs
About mind upliftment and bein positive
He yawned and he sighed til 1:05
Then he finally realized that hunny wasn't live
At least he didn't plan on buildin for the evenin'
Threw the Fila on the dome and said 'Come on yo, we leavin'

 

[Sandia]

FYI-I too have not had sex before by choice, I kind of view myself as a wannabe Enjolras(from Les Mis) revolutionary figure....

70/30, did it happen to you, too?

 

[Frimost]

female perpetrators

Good to mention men there.
I actually know some men who have been raped.

Seem's my stepfather's family has some issues. Step cousins did it to some male relatives, and a step uncle did it to my half sister.

Too true!

Sadly, sexual abusers are not limited to the male of the species.

Summary

This was a vivid and horrific programme in which the victims of sexual abuse by women told disturbing stories of emotional and physical damage:

-Rape and attempted murder of a 12 year old boy by a 19 year old girl
-Rape and abuse of a 12 year old boy over a two year period by a 28 year old mother of four
-Rape and abuse of boys by their mother
-Rape and abuse of girls by their mother
-Women taking a lead role in pornographic violence and abuse
-Children abused by nuns
-Children abused at playgroup
-Boy abused by lesbians

It was acknowledged that the scale and nature of these attacks had been severely underestimated and there were examples of women using excessive force with implements such as chair legs and cutlery.

A surprising 86% of survivors of sexual abuse were not believed when they said the abuser was a woman.

Many myths were exposed, such as the one that women only sexually abused when coerced by men - they in fact played the lead part. Also the myth that women are incapable of cruelty - what was shown was beyond belief.

But despite the seriousness of these offences, women generally escaped custodial sentences.


Statistics
The programme claimed that:

-Women commit 25% of all child sexual abuse
-250,000 children in UK have been sexually abused by women

The Sexual Abuse by Women of Children and Teenagers

 

[70/30]

Not yet, thank god. What I meant unlike the norm of the forum, casual relationships of that sort I don't approve of. There aren't any missions that should be venerated like the "Princess Bride" type quest. I just need to get the financial standing to leave the stale place I live in and actively get back on mine. But every good story has their dormant years I suppose, I'm no different.

 

[intrigued]

Frimost, thank you for your kind and informative input.

 

[iwmggw]

70/30

Every life threatening moment that you have mentioned.........was done as a result of your own free will. (By the way , be careful you don't break your arm while patting yourself on the back). On this thread...that would make you the raper, not the one being raped. Now, don't get your undies in a bunch, I'm not calling you a rapist. I'm just trying to point out to you that the vast majority of raped individuals, never knowingly put themselves in harms way. You had a choice, they didn't. Its also easier dealing with fear.......when you know what it is you are fearing. Then comes the aftermath. You were successful....you beat the mountain, river, etc., the rape victim hardly feels like a victor after their particular ordeal (read some of the posts, and try to put yourself in their mind). You sound like a strong willed and minded individual.......good for you. However, speaking about your efforts, beliefs, and trials by fire, in which you have endured, does not in anyway measure up to the horror and trauma these individuals endured and may still endure. Its kind of like comparing a hotdog.....to a fillet. Lets just say for the sake of this analogy, and thread............you are the hotdog.

 

[iwmggw]

I apologize

Sorry for the rant........and not ignoring 70/30's comments. He did have some good things to say........regarding human spirit, endurance, and will. It just took him a long time to get there. I also think he doesn't quite grasp the concept of post traumatic stress......and how dehabilitating it can become. I was in combat, saw many acts of bravery. Rape survivors ..........that make a life after their trauma...........are truly heroic to me. We all need someone we can lean on.............it just doesn't sound like 70/30 has learned that yet. My heart goes out to each and everyone of you.................and I pray for your strength to endure.>gw

 

[intrigued]

Re: I apologize

Sorry for the rant........and not ignoring 70/30's comments. He did have some good things to say........regarding human spirit, endurance, and will. It just took him a long time to get there. I also think he doesn't quite grasp the concept of post traumatic stress......and how dehabilitating it can become. I was in combat, saw many acts of bravery. Rape survivors ..........that make a life after their trauma...........are truly heroic to me. We all need someone we can lean on.............it just doesn't sound like 70/30 has learned that yet. My heart goes out to each and everyone of you.................and I pray for your strength to endure.>gw

Thank you, I sincerely appreciate this, and i truly see no need for an apology.
I said a good bit to him as well this morning, but felt so foolish that I edited it out because I know he just isn't going to "get it", and I am a fool for trying. Besides, its his right, and though I tried to reach him, its more than disappointing that I could not.

 

[DustyWolfe]

Responsibility

I found this today when working on my website. I'm not saying much more on this topic because my wounds are very fresh.

I'm going to admit that I'm upset about what 70/30 says though.

No, would anyone want to rape me since I'm fat now? Who the fuck knows. But when my virginity was taken I was an innocent 4 year old. When I was raped later in life I was skinny 19 year old with the world at her feet and a winning smile..

Now.. Who knows what I am. But no matter what...

I will survive

 

[intrigued]

Responsibility

I found this today when working on my website. I'm not saying much more on this topic because my wounds are very fresh.

I'm going to admit that I'm upset about what 70/30 says though.

No, would anyone want to rape me since I'm fat now? Who the fuck knows. But when my virginity was taken I was an innocent 4 year old. When I was raped later in life I was skinny 19 year old with the world at her feet and a winning smile..

Now.. Who knows what I am. But no matter what...

I will survive

Yes mam, you will, I promise you, you will. In fact, you are going to be a better woman..... Dusty, you are in my heart big time.

 

[70/30]

Fair enough. I stick to political threads for a reason and even there I stay away from making longterm alliances. Nationstates and individual persons are inherently the same. Some freely subject and some are easily subjected. Respecting a powerful country because they can control in an ill-manner and get away with it, to me is a lot like respecting a brutal rapist that isn't caught. Read the different viewpoints on threads (most are male) about global conflict and it won't be so hard to believe how rapes can occur as frequently as they do. A Makaveli type coldness envelops a lot of us and we think "action always equals power".

Find the biggest war-hawk on here and they'll say fight to the max on the global scale but speaking to you ladies they'll show profuse empathy concerning your situation. To have that attitude about violence slip into harming an individual shouldn't surprise anyone. As for me-I don't show empathy for a reason. I don't believe in flags, patriotism, and that GOD blesses America; I recognize that 300,000 people die everyday. If it is someone that posts on this board or someone starving in Mozambique, it makes no difference- we are all in the same boat. So if I showed deep concern for all, I'd either become pp_man or never get out of bed. I go into cycles where I really consider the validity of "lifeboat ethics", luckily I find my way back from it. I call humans "glorified animals" because we don't live in the manner we could or should that goes for males and females.