Protests, protests everywhere!

[crazybbwgirl]

I know I'm one of the oldest members in this forum - but doesn't ANYONE remember Vietnam?

 

[bluespoke]

I know I'm one of the oldest members in this forum - but doesn't ANYONE remember Vietnam?

You're nowhere near the oldest dear lady.

I remember, very well.

 

[crazybbwgirl]

For some reason I thought more people would remember how awful that was. I was 12 - 13 as it was wrapping up and it made a huge impact on me. Seeing soldiers and civilians dying like that - ???

 

[bluespoke]

For some reason I thought more people would remember how awful that was. I was 12 - 13 as it was wrapping up and it made a huge impact on me. Seeing soldiers and civilians dying like that - ???

I think it made a huge impact on anyone who lived through it and saw the horrors, especially the people who were there are lived it.

Whilst, sometimes, wars are a last resort after all else has failed, they are never anything to crow about. Protest is always a legitimate tool to be employed whether the war has started or not.

We can all be proud of our troops and wish them safe but I do not believe that it means that those who wish to should not protest.

 

[Purrde Flower]

I think its great that we can Protest about things and not get our heads blown off or worse. Like some people in other countries.

 

[crazybbwgirl]

What would be even greater is if the American media would show us ALL the news - including the protests. They make it look like everyone is in agreement with Bush! I'm telling ya - check out Canada's news CBC - a whole different perspective than what we're getting here.

 

[Linedrive]

I'm not sure how you figure the anti-war protests aren't getting appropriate air time. I have friends that are anti-war and they admit the anti-war protests are getting the grand majority of the coverage.

 

[crazybbwgirl]

hmmm, I watched CNN for more than an hour last nite - tons and tons of stuff on "Shock and Awe" (what a disgusting name for killing people) and about 3 min. of footage of protests around the world. Maybe I was just watching at the wrong time?

 

[Linedrive]

Here is an interesting viewpoint from someone I would think even most of the anti-war supporters would acknowledge is a moron.

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Apparently it has become obvious that our protest signs, banners, marches and demonstrations have yet to make an impact on those in power as they proceed with their imperialist agenda for war. Picket sign after picket sign, chant after chant, we've continuously asked George W. Bush and the Gestapo power structure to stop it's war. Our anti-war protests have obviously become repetitive and ineffective. This is because the anti-war movement is trapped. It is trapped within the legitimized false-hood of social patriotism and interventionalism. We have become counter-productive as we continue to confine ourselves within the white liberal doctrine of non-violence and reform.

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Make it known publicly that this movement DOES NOT support U.S. troops as long as they are serving an unjust and horrifying political regime. Create an atmosphere lacking of support to assist U.S. troops at home and abroad in losing their morale and will to fight. If you are supporting the troops you are supporting this war and the very U.S. government that is the primary terrorist regime in the international arena.

http://www.raisethefist.com/news.cgi?artical=wire/-----80244warison.gifIMG.article

 

[jodarby]

Re: Oops, I stand corrected

I guess there were some small protests in New York.

To refresh you memory, pigboy, on 9.11 3,000 Americans were murdered in NYC. They know what we are up against. The folks in San Fran are just out of work and looking for a place to score weed.

I don't think anyone takes commie cocksuckers seriously.

There is a big protest scheduled for New York today. Just saw it on CNN.

 

[Linedrive]

hmmm, I watched CNN for more than an hour last nite - tons and tons of stuff on "Shock and Awe" (what a disgusting name for killing people) and about 3 min. of footage of protests around the world. Maybe I was just watching at the wrong time?

No offense...but the war is actually news, as opposed to the protests which are a nice display of personal rights, but offer the viewer nothing substantial to take away from it.

 

[crazybbwgirl]

Well that's alot more militant than I'm prepared to be. And there will always be the extremist factions to any political movement. I think they feel they have to be that extreme to get anyone to notice. Its hard when everyone is so emotional about this topic. There is no real good answer unfortunately - until the whole world is ready to realize that war doesn't solve anything.

 

[deliciously_naughty]

I find it interesting that out of almost 600 members of Congress, that only ONE has a child serving in the military.

 

[Linedrive]

I don't doubt your intention, war is a last resort. How realistic is it to expect global peace when this cannot even be accomplished in our own relationships and communities...?

 

[crazybbwgirl]

I find it interesting that out of almost 600 members of Congress, that only ONE has a child serving in the military.

angonizingly interesting......

 

[crazybbwgirl]

I don't doubt your intention, war is a last resort. How realistic is it to expect global peace when this cannot even be accomplished in our own relationships and communities...?

We've all got to start somewhere. If I can make one person think twice about accepting war as an answer while protesting, then I've made a start. If I can talk to one person and -not even change their mind- but make them at least thing twice - then its all worth it.

 

[Linedrive]

We've all got to start somewhere. If I can make one person think twice about accepting war as an answer while protesting, then I've made a start. If I can talk to one person and -not even change their mind- but make them at least thing twice - then its all worth it.

You are an idealistic person cbg, and there is nothing wrong with that. Our society needs people like you to make progress. I'm just pleased that pragmatic people are in charge of the security of our country. Even the most peaceful of societies that did not defend themselves from threats perished.

 

[crazybbwgirl]

You are an idealistic person cbg, and there is nothing wrong with that. Our society needs people like you to make progress. I'm just pleased that pragmatic people are in charge of the security of our country. Even the most peaceful of societies that did not defend themselves from threats perished.

Maybe in the past - but who knows what could happen in the future? I say we give it a chance - Imagine?

 

[Linedrive]

Maybe in the past - but who knows what could happen in the future? I say we give it a chance - Imagine?

Like I said, every society needs dreamers, people with high aspirations and hopes, people with the ability to envision a better world...I do not deny this plays a vital role in our society.

The majority of the idealistic people won't acknowledge that each society also needs pragmatic people, or "realists" in order to survive.

 

[crazybbwgirl]

I'll just keep quietly extoling my idealist ideas - I know lots of young kids. They are our hope for a less violent future. But right now I'm late for a peace march... its been great talking to you. I actually think there's hope for you yet? hhehehe

 

[Linedrive]

... its been great talking to you. I actually think there's hope for you yet? hhehehe

Don't mistake my politeness for a weakness in my conviction

Good day cbg

 

[crazybbwgirl]

I just need a tiny crack - I can be very persuasive! hehehe Oh - that's right - that doens't have anything to do with war - my bad ! lol Actually I think if we all spent more time making love we'd be too tired for any wars! But that's another thread I guess.....

 

[REDWAVE]

LIE!

I'm not sure how you figure the anti-war protests aren't getting appropriate air time. I have friends that are anti-war and they admit the anti-war protests are getting the grand majority of the coverage.

What an outrageous, bald-faced lie!

 

[Lost Cause]

What the protesters defend........

A group of American anti-war demonstrators who came to Iraq with Japanese human shield volunteers made it across the border today with 14 hours of uncensored video, all shot without Iraqi government minders present. Kenneth Joseph, a young American pastor with the Assyrian Church of the East, told UPI the trip "had shocked me back to reality." Some of the Iraqis he interviewed on camera "told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start. They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny. They convinced me that Saddam was a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his sons are sick sadists. Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so they could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head."

From UPI.

Hoping for Karma to catch up to you all.

 

[Rodney King]

Re: What the protesters defend........

From UPI.

Hoping for Karma to catch up to you all.

LC, could you provide a link on that article. I've been looking for it for a while and can not find it on UPI. Is it a very current article, as I've only checked todays UPI index.

Thanks. I like this article and would like to forward it to several of my "protesting" friends.