prejudice or simple seperation of the races?

[hydrex]

This has been on tv a bit lately so I thought I'd stir up some shit here with it.

I have seen white people that want to seperate the races. Is that prejudice or simple seperation of the races?

There is also a white movement to stop all supposedly racial clubs and tv channels. You know B.E.T. the black entertainment channel, well some white people are saying they want a white entertainment channel. there are also black only clubs at colleges and what not.

What do you all think of this kind of thing? Do these white people have a legitimate argument or is it just racism?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

BET is crap. Their network is polluted with gangstuh rap and booty hoes. I'll fucking assrape with a big spiked boot the fucker who tries to recruit my daughter for one of those videos. And yeah, what if they had a white entertainment network? People would be up in fucking arms. It's hypocrisy. Yeah, as a black guy I'm saying that. Fuck BET and fuck black-only clubs. Fuck black-only this and black-only that. It's bullshit.

 

[hydrex]

ok...when I get more responses I'll give my view.

 

[marshalt]

WTF do they talk about at a meeting of a blacks-only club?

"Well, are we still all black? We are? Good. Meeting adjurned."

 

[NaughtyLil1]

BET is crap. Their network is polluted with gangstuh rap and booty hoes. I'll fucking assrape with a big spiked boot the fucker who tries to recruit my daughter for one of those videos. And yeah, what if they had a white entertainment network? People would be up in fucking arms. It's hypocrisy. Yeah, as a black guy I'm saying that. Fuck BET and fuck black-only clubs. Fuck black-only this and black-only that. It's bullshit.

Amen brother!

 

[bill-pix-trade]

I have tried not to judge people by skin color, and I have done my best to bring up my kids that way as well. The kids are better at it then me, I still have to think about it to them it comes natural not to judge. There is no question there are differences, but they are related more to where and how people are brought up, and what they have experienced then any thing else. We have black neighbors and their girl is my daughters best friend. She is a member of my family and my daughter is treated the same by them. My daughter have gone away with them on vacation, and theirs with us. My son works part time for her dad now as well. The main difference is they bring their kids up stricter then we do, the dad kicks my ass in hoops, I am better at street hockey, and I cook better BBQ then he does, but he won't admit it.

 

[cjh]

This has been on tv a bit lately so I thought I'd stir up some shit here with it.

I have seen white people that want to seperate the races. Is that prejudice or simple seperation of the races?

There is also a white movement to stop all supposedly racial clubs and tv channels. You know B.E.T. the black entertainment channel, well some white people are saying they want a white entertainment channel. there are also black only clubs at colleges and what not.

What do you all think of this kind of thing? Do these white people have a legitimate argument or is it just racism?

cultures band together. shared experience matters. thus the daughters of the american revolution limit membership to members who can trace their roots to people who fought the british in the american revolution. thus the creation of the austin celtic association, "a non-profit organization established to celebrate and promote Celtic culture through music, dance, language, sports, history, and the arts."

freedom of association in a private social context includes the right to exclude. but most of the groups you have identified are not exclusionary. you can watch bet. white students can join traditionally black associations on campus. and vice versa. i'm caucasian, and i'm a member of the naacp. *shrugs

there is much to be said for preserving culture and identity. that can be done without threatening "america," or offending concepts of equality. just like chicken and andouille and okra and onion blend together to form a gumbo and still remain distinct.

your references, though, sound as if the chicken should never meet the andouille, okra or onion. that's racism.

 

[marshalt]

there is much to be said for preserving culture and identity. that can be done without threatening "america," or offending concepts of equality. just like chicken and andouille and okra and onion blend together to form a gumbo and still remain distinct.

your references, though, sound as if the chicken should never meet the andouille, okra or onion. that's racism.

A person chooses their culture. Just because it's important to you doesn't mean it has to mean something to your kids. Culture is all about experiences that bind people together, not about blood or skin color.

 

[hydrex]

cultures band together. shared experience matters. thus the daughters of the american revolution limit membership to members who can trace their roots to people who fought the british in the american revolution. thus the creation of the austin celtic association, "a non-profit organization established to celebrate and promote Celtic culture through music, dance, language, sports, history, and the arts."

freedom of association in a private social context includes the right to exclude. but most of the groups you have identified are not exclusionary. you can watch bet. white students can join traditionally black associations on campus. and vice versa. i'm caucasian, and i'm a member of the naacp. *shrugs

there is much to be said for preserving culture and identity. that can be done without threatening "america," or offending concepts of equality. just like chicken and andouille and okra and onion blend together to form a gumbo and still remain distinct.

your references, though, sound as if the chicken should never meet the andouille, okra or onion. that's racism.

You make sense. I'm not speaking of the ones that white people can join I am speaking of the ones they can't.

 

[NaughtyLil1]

I have tried not to judge people by skin color, and I have done my best to bring up my kids that way as well.

I totally agree. I don't care if you are burgundy or hunter green...we are all the same. Treat me decent and I'll pay you the same courtesy. It's as simple as that, or it should be.

 

[bill-pix-trade]

I have tried not to judge people by skin color, and I have done my best to bring up my kids that way as well.

I totally agree. I don't care if you are burgundy or hunter green...we are all the same. Treat me decent and I'll pay you the same courtesy. It's as simple as that, or it should be.

I wish it was.

 

[PaganFairy]

This has been on tv a bit lately so I thought I'd stir up some shit here with it.

I have seen white people that want to seperate the races. Is that prejudice or simple seperation of the races?

There is also a white movement to stop all supposedly racial clubs and tv channels. You know B.E.T. the black entertainment channel, well some white people are saying they want a white entertainment channel. there are also black only clubs at colleges and what not.

What do you all think of this kind of thing? Do these white people have a legitimate argument or is it just racism?

I'm not Racist I hate everybody

 

[cjh]

A person chooses their culture. Just because it's important to you doesn't mean it has to mean something to your kids. Culture is all about experiences that bind people together, not about blood or skin color.

yes and no. yes, otherwise we would have no melting pot. but no, because children naturally pick up the culture of those who raise them. (otherwise i would not still eat funky jello molds.) and ethnicity, very broadly speaking, can be a marker for some probable shared experiences.

 

[RoryN]

There is also a white movement to stop all supposedly racial clubs and tv channels. You know B.E.T. the black entertainment channel, well some white people are saying they want a white entertainment channel. there are also black only clubs at colleges and what not.

Rest assured, you don't need to worry about this issue; you're not smart enough to tackle it. You hardly had enough sense of the subject to coherently put the ideas into that paragraph.

...when I get more responses I'll give my view.

That figures.

 

[marshalt]

because children naturally pick up the culture of those who raise them.

Not always, and there's no reason why you should make a kid be part of that culture.

 

[hydrex]

I have tried not to judge people by skin color, and I have done my best to bring up my kids that way as well.

I totally agree. I don't care if you are burgundy or hunter green...we are all the same. Treat me decent and I'll pay you the same courtesy. It's as simple as that, or it should be.

That's what I say. Treat me the way you want to be treated, and we'll be fine.

 

[cjh]

Not always, and there's no reason why you should make a kid be part of that culture.

what's the official american diet?
religion?
music?
literature?
values?

we are a product of our culture. on a micro and macro level. parents necessarily contribute culture on a micro level.

unless, you are suggesting that we should let the state define standards for the values we instill in our children.

 

[hydrex]

Not always, and there's no reason why you should make a kid be part of that culture.

there are a lot of things my parents did that I don't do. trying to stop the cycle.

 

[woody54]

A person chooses their culture. Just because it's important to you doesn't mean it has to mean something to your kids. Culture is all about experiences that bind people together, not about blood or skin color.

A person grows into a culture.
The Catholics say, Give me a child till he is 7 , and he is mine for life.
This is so true about cultural values too, which are passed down through families and the society you are raised in.
It is a major effort on a personal level to change these cultural values but they will change in time as the society changes.

There is an inbuilt primeaval protection to be wary of those outside your group and this is where racism or sectarianisn stems from.

Loving your fellow man is foreign programming to nature and it requires the appropriate cultural liberalism to enable one to embrace all nations.

Infortunately that liberalism is not as freely seen as it should be due to racial, and religious limitations within cultures.

 

[hydrex]

One day, if humans live that long, we will all be one color.

 

[woody54]

One day, if humans live that long, we will all be one color.

No we wont because colour creation was related to location and radiation protection so as much as we blend to coffee colour, nature is working back the other way in different regions of the world.

 

[marshalt]

what's the official american diet?
religion?
music?
literature?
values?

we are a product of our culture. on a micro and macro level. parents necessarily contribute culture on a micro level.

unless, you are suggesting that we should let the state define standards for the values we instill in our children.

No, I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm suggesting letting the children choose the values that are important to them.

In the daily fishwrap up here, they have a columnist that is an American Indian. She went off on a rant one day about how kids from the reservation that are adopted by white people aren't being exposed to their "culture" because they weren't participating in pow wows and that stuff.

To me that feels wrong. Who cares what your ancestors did? And why should we force a culture or heritage on children?

 

[hydrex]

No we wont because colour creation was related to location and radiation protection so as much as we blend to coffee colour, nature is working back the other way in different regions of the world.

that's right, thanks for reminding me I forgot about that. still Americans may one day all be close to the same color

 

[woody54]

No, I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm suggesting letting the children choose the values that are important to them.

In the daily fishwrap up here, they have a columnist that is an American Indian. She went off on a rant one day about how kids from the reservation that are adopted by white people aren't being exposed to their "culture" because they weren't participating in pow wows and that stuff.

To me that feels wrong. Who cares what your ancestors did? And why should we force a culture or heritage on children?

You need to consider the almost genetic link people have to their roots.
On a limited scale this is reflected in kids fucked up by adoption and having a void they cannot explain. On a wider cultural measure, perhaps Arthur Hailley's "Roots " gives a picture of what it means to later generations.

Everyone needs to know who they are and where they came from, your soul needs that. ( Need I mention the Jews here? )

 

[medjay]

I would repeat what I always say about the cultural irrelevance of BET and how moronic white people are whenever they target that channel as the subject of their wrath but I don't want to be redundant.