Planned Parenthood Prez: Fund Planned Parenthood to stop abortion

[Que]

....but you defund one of the handful of groups that is providing abortions ....

It is only 3% of what they do and are already the leading abortion provider without one single penny of Federal money. It should be no problem for them to continue to do them without Federal funding since they aren't using any of it to do abortions.

Right?

 

[badbabysitter]

It is only 3% of what they do and are already the leading abortion provider without one single penny of Federal money. It should be no problem for them to continue to do them without Federal funding since they aren't using any of it to do abortions.

Right?

Ummm did you even think through what you just said?

You're saying it should be fine for them to provide 97% of the service, with now only 3 % of the money?


Sure, just like you could buy a new house with the 5 dollars in your pocket

 

[Que]

Ummm did you even think through what you just said?

You're saying it should be fine for them to provide 97% of the service, with now only 3 % of the money?


Sure, just like you could buy a new house with the 5 dollars in your pocket

You were specifically talking about abortion. Abortion is currently only 3% of what they do so they should still be able to be the nation's largest abortion provider with the 3% of resources that they currently claim they use for abortions. All of those resources that they are currently using to do abortions are going to be available to them when they are defunded because they aren't using any federal dollars to do abortions.

How is defunding Planned Parenthood going to have any effect at all on abortions?

Unless of course (as the right is always said) funds are fungible and they are using the lion's share of federal money to perform abortions in violation of the Hyde Amendment.

 

[badbabysitter]

You were specifically talking about abortion. Abortion is currently only 3% of what they do so they should still be able to be the nation's largest abortion provider with the 3% of resources that they currently claim they use for abortions

FAIL.. they dont claim to use only 3% of the funds they use for 3% of what they actually do

. All of those resources that they are currently using to do abortions are going to be available to them when they are defunded because they aren't using any federal dollars to do abortions.

Because as mentioned above your argument is specious at best and intellectually dishonest at worst

How is defunding Planned Parenthood going to have any effect at all on abortions?

If you cant afford to keep the lights on, you cant afford to provide.. once again you're asking 3% to cover 97%

Also Hyde Amendment, stop being stupid

Unless of course (as the right is always said) funds are fungible and they are using the lion's share of federal money to perform abortions in violation of the Hyde Amendment.

But they're not dumbass, and the right has always been wrong, the right has not once in the entirety of PP's entire existence ever been able to find anything remotely resembling a smoking gun and these alleged fungible violations

to the right I merely ask; put up or shut up

 

[Que]

FAIL.. they dont claim to use only 3% of the funds they use for 3% of what they actually do



Because as mentioned above your argument is specious at best and intellectually dishonest at worst



If you cant afford to keep the lights on, you cant afford to provide.. once again you're asking 3% to cover 97%

Also Hyde Amendment, stop being stupid



But they're not dumbass, and the right has always been wrong, the right has not once in the entirety of PP's entire existence ever been able to find anything remotely resembling a smoking gun and these alleged fungible violations

to the right I merely ask; put up or shut up

Fortunately you are not their spokesperson because you just admitted that they cannot afford to do abortions without Federal money, which would be in violation of the Hyde Amendment.

If you disingenuous twits hadn't spent years and years wildly distorting the numbers to get to that 97% figure you might have some actual support because they've of course they already have been using Federal money to do abortions all this time. The ratchet effect says it's tough to take back anything people are accustomed to Uncle Sugar handing out.

If Democrats would be honest about what it is that they are actually killing (cells that Adrina personifies as future "burdens on society") you could gather a robust coalition of people in favor of lowering the birthrates of Democrats and welfare recipients.

 

[badbabysitter]

Fortunately you are not their spokesperson because you just admitted that they cannot afford to do abortions without Federal money, which would be in violation of the Hyde Amendment.

Ummm, didnt even do so remotely.. you claimed that they could provide abortions with 3% of the money they recieve, i did not. In fact I told you that they cant provide abortions with federal funding

here I will quote you

Abortion is currently only 3% of what they do so they should still be able to be the nation's largest abortion provider with the 3% of resources that they currently claim they use for abortions

that there is you saying they can provide 100 % of the abortion service for 3% of the money they spend on abortions.. you didnt trick me pal, you're just not very smart

If you disingenuous twits hadn't spent years and years wildly distorting the numbers to get to that 97% figure you might have some actual support because they've of course they already have been using Federal money to do abortions all this time. The ratchet effect says i5's tough to take back anything people are accustomed to Uncle Sugar handing out.

dude, PP's budget is a matter of record.. that's why the right has been cry babies about it for years, they cant prove their truly retarded claims so they lie about it, just like now

once again, put up or shut up

If Democrats would be honest about what it is that they are actually killing (cells that Adrina personifies as future "burdens on society") you could gather a robust coalition of people in favor of lowering the birthrates of Democrats and welfare recipients.

and here we are at last.. abortion is for welfare recipients and it's all about murder.. your true colours emerge.

For you, abortion is about murder and that's why you oppose it.. you want to legally impose your morality and are in shock that women dont agree with you telling them what to do about a medical procedure

 

[Que]

Easiest way to not have to "catch them" violating Hyde is to simply defund them.

 

[Tristyn]

dude, PP's budget is a matter of record.. that's why the right has been cry babies about it for years, they cant prove their truly retarded claims so they lie about it, just like now

Individuals with developmental disabilities deserve our respect.

Your cavalier use of the "R" word is vile and disgusting.

Visit the following website & educate yourself, Bitch.

http://www.r-word.org/r-word-why-pledge.aspx#.WV08sGc2y00

 

[adrina]

And people wonder why I point out the punitive fashion in which abortion is dealt with.

Yes, by all means let's treat them as a criminal because people think they might violate a law. Regardless of history and regardless of reality.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

What else does PP do other than provide contraception, pap smears and abortion? I ask for personal reasons.

 

[adrina]

What else does PP do other than provide contraception, pap smears and abortion? I ask for personal reasons.

Breast exams, referrals for breast exams.

STD tests, including HIV.

Educational outreach.

 

[Que]

And people wonder why I point out the punitive fashion in which abortion is dealt with.

Yes, by all means let's treat them as a criminal because people think they might violate a law. Regardless of history and regardless of reality.

D E F U N D I N G Planned Parenthood CANNOT IMPACT ABORTION because NO Federal funds are currently supporting abortion. Why do you keep bring abortion into it?

 

[adrina]

D E F U N D I N G Planned Parenthood CANNOT IMPACT ABORTION because NO Federal funds are currently supporting abortion. Why do you keep bring abortion into it?

Because asshats like you keep making it the center of the debate and keep trying to use it to justify defunding PPH.

You yourself said it: why risk them violating the Hyde Amendment. You want to punish/sanction them before a violation has even been committed. Regardless of their record and history. You want to end healthcare for millions of people because you are afraid that a single penny might go to abortion.

You are being intellectually dishonest at best is correct.

 

[Que]

They DONT need any Federal funds to perform abortions NOW.

ALL is well on the abortion front. Relax.

They will be able to D&C those annoying "future burdens to society" (as you call them) at the same enthusiastic pace as before.

 

[adrina]

They DONT need any Federal funds to perform abortions NOW.

ALL is well on the abortion front. Relax.

They will be able to D&C those annoying "future burdens to society" (as you call them) at the same enthusiastic pace as before.

And if the funding remains in place, the other 97% of their business can continue and people can continue to get STD prevention, birth control and cancer screenings.

Easy peasy.

So relax. You don't need to crusade against all those folks being helped by PPH.

 

[Que]

And if the funding remains in place, the other 97% of their business can continue and people can continue to get STD prevention, birth control and cancer screenings.

Easy peasy.

So relax. You don't need to crusade against all those folks being helped by PPH.

Who is crusading?

I just keep pointing out that your histrionics about this being a threat to abortion is misplaced, unless of course you think PP is cooking the books. You keep deflecting and dissembling.

Besides, it is not as if if the Republicans are ever going to get a health care bill through, much less with something as controversial as anything to do with Planned Parenthood in it.

If you're really this concerned, why not go get knocked up and have an abortion before the possibility of such a defunding happening?

 

[adrina]

Who is crusading?

I just keep pointing out that your histrionics about this being a threat to abortion is misplaced, unless of course you think PP is cooking the books. You keep deflecting and dissembling.

Besides, it is not as if if the Republicans are ever going to get a health care bill through, much less with something as controversial as anything to do with Planned Parenthood in it.

If you're really this concerned, why not go get knocked up and have an abortion before the possibility of such a defunding happening?

Riiiiight.

If you were any more full of shit, we'd have to ship you off to a fertilizer factory.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Breast exams, referrals for breast exams.

STD tests, including HIV.

Educational outreach.

So very little about women's health care per se.

I have a massive fibroid tumor. It is an issue that affects black women more than anyone else. Why do you white women fight so hard for abortion as a form of women's health, but not for fibroids?

 

[adrina]

So very little about women's health care per se.

I have a massive fibroid tumor. It is an issue that affects black women more than anyone else. Why do you white women fight so hard for abortion as a form of women's health, but not for fibroids?

So did you really mean to sound like a racist in this? Why do us white women....?

Please tell me the last time any legislator - on the state or federal level - put in any limitations on access to treatment for fibroids.

I find your question to be disingenuous at best and frankly offensive at worst.

You've not any legs to stand on when you do shit like this.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And if the funding remains in place, the other 97% of their business can continue and people can continue to get STD prevention, birth control and cancer screenings.

Easy peasy.

So relax. You don't need to crusade against all those folks being helped by PPH.

That's welfare not business.

If they have business they don't need funding. Their consumers will give them the funding they need.

You and others like you are the only ones crusading.....to get free shit.

So did you really mean to sound like a racist in this? Why do us white women....?

*engage SJW mode on SJW*

She's not white, therefore not racist.

Check your privilege whitey.

 

[adrina]

That's welfare not business.

If they have business they don't need funding. Their consumers will give them the funding they need.

You and others like you are the only ones crusading.....to get free shit.



She's not white, therefore not racist.

Check your privilege whitey.

So apparently only white people can be racist?

Seriously dude, whatever your problem is... seek help. Immediately.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So apparently only white people can be racist?

That is progress and social justice.

Get with the program bigot.

Seriously dude, whatever your problem is... seek help. Immediately.

I don't have a problem.

I'm a minority with more white privilege than white people

 

[adrina]

That is progress and social justice.

Get with the program bigot.



I don't have a problem.

I'm a minority with more white privilege than white people

Whatever dude.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Whatever dude.

Sorry you're not as protected by your own political sect as I am

 

[adrina]

Sorry you're not as protected by your own political class as I am

Whatever dude.