Planned Parenthood Prez: Fund Planned Parenthood to stop abortion

[FakeNews]

Funding America’s largest abortion provider will reduce abortions, according to its president. Never mind that, as Planned Parenthood receives more funding, its own abortion rate increases. On Wednesday, Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards appeared as a guest on Morning Joe to discuss the GOP healthcare bill that proposes to halt federal funding (Medicaid money) from going towards her organization.

“We're actually now at an historic low for teen pregnancy in the United States of America,” she touted. “We're actually at the lowest rate of abortion since Roe vs. Wade was decided.”

But what Richards didn’t say is that, while the U.S. abortion rate has decreased, Planned Parenthood’s abortion rate has increased. According to Planned Parenthood’s most recently published annual report, the organization performed 328,348 abortions from 2015 to 2016. That’s 4,349 more abortions than the previous year.

As with abortion, Planned Parenthood saw a rise in government funding. It received $554.6 million in “government health services, reimbursements & grants” from 2015 to 2016 versus $553.7 million the year before.

“f you actually block access to Planned Parenthood, unintended pregnancy will go up, as will the rate of abortion,” she warned, “which just seems crazy to us.”

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/c...od-prez-fund-planned-parenthood-stop-abortion

 

[adrina]

And she is correct.

 

[Que]

And she is correct.

Because the more of those "future burdens on society" that they abort the fewer of them will live to procreate?

 

[Boxlicker101]

And she is correct.

Because planned parenthood does much more than just perform abortions. They also provide birth control, which reduces unwanted pregnancies, meaning fewer abortions.

 

[adrina]

Because the more of those "future burdens on society" that they abort the fewer of them will live to procreate?

Birth control.

They provide lots and lots and lots of birth control.

Birth control prevents unwanted pregnancies.

Unwanted pregnancies prevented are abortions that don't happen.

Logic.

 

[Que]

Because planned parenthood does much more than just perform abortions. They also provide birth control, which reduces unwanted pregnancies, meaning fewer abortions.

How many actual dollars do they spend dispensing birth control? Should be an easy number for their accountants to come up with.

You do know Obamacare fully covers exams and birth control and that any MD, DO, Phys Asstnt or Nurse Practioner can prescribe them and any pharmacy can fill those Rx, right?

 

[Que]

Birth control.

They provide lots and lots and lots of birth control.

Birth control prevents unwanted pregnancies.

Unwanted pregnancies prevented are abortions that don't happen.

Logic.

See above.

 

[adrina]

Again, what the fuck is your problem with abortion?

Straight up to the point, why is it such a goddamn big fucking deal if a woman has an abortion?

 

[adrina]

basic CNN stats article

Planned Parenthood says it prevents an estimated 579,000 unintended pregnancies per year.

Contraception accounted for 34% of the services it provided, according to the 2015 GAO report.

 

[Que]

Again, what the fuck is your problem with abortion?

Straight up to the point, why is it such a goddamn big fucking deal if a woman has an abortion?

What's your favorite part of the abortion process, other than your relief about a reduction in future "burdens to society" as you call them?

 

[adrina]

What's your favorite part of the abortion process, other than your relief about a reduction in future "burdens to society" as you call them?

The part where the woman makes the decision for herself and has unfettered access to medical care.

The process? So you're squeamish? Or is it the control freak aspect? Do you want or need a sanitized life?

Apparently you're far too histrionic to deal with the realities of abortion.

 

[Que]

Good news!

I just ran the numbers and it looks like Planned Parenthood will probably still be able to provide that service. Last year they made seven hundred million dollars in excess profit. If you divide that by the $579,000 pregnancies they claim to have prevented they could dpend over 1,200 per woman that didn't get pregnant!

As a good progressive (that I'm sure is concerned about excess profits) I'm sure you don't have a problem if they divert 700 million dollars in excess profits to that purpose, it does seem worthy to me.

And who knows if that's really where they want to concentrate their focus why not just spin off a division of Planned Parenthood clinics that only do birth control if they only did birth control they could clearly qualify for federal dollars since they wouldn't then be also abortion mills. Since that's your primary concern as well you wouldn't have a problem with that would you?

I'm still not sure why you are so stridently upset by all of this and keep tieing it into abortion. No federal money is going to abortion now so taking away Federal money shouldn't affect the number of abortions they do at all right?

 

[Que]

The part where the woman makes the decision for herself and has unfettered access to medical care.

The process? So you're squeamish? Or is it the control freak aspect? Do you want or need a sanitized life?

Apparently you're far too histrionic to deal with the realities of abortion.

Thats odd. Why would anyone be "squeamish" about the removal of some unneeded cells?!??

 

[adrina]

Again what is your fucking problem with abortion?

Why do you have such a problem with an abortion provider?

Why do you want to limit access to healthcare?

Why do you think it's okay to deny funds specifically to PPH?

Over 40% of their services is in disease prevention.

Would you like to know how that vacuum would run through the system?

All you want is to stop funding to PPH without fully realizing the consequences and you smugly dismiss the hardship to women. You are willfully ignorant and dangerously arrogant.

What is your problem with abortion? Did some woman abort a fetus you helped start and you never forgave her?

 

[Que]

This whole abortion obsession of yours is weird.

As the president of Planned Parenthood is trying to explain here they're basically in the preventing pregnancies business. Abortions only account for 3% of their business; it's hardly important to them. Why is it so mportant to you?

 

[adrina]

Thats odd. Why would anyone be "squeamish" about the removal of some unneeded cells?!??

Apparently you are.

You're being completely irrational - must be hysteria based.

 

[adrina]

This whole abortion obsession of yours is weird.

As the president of Planned Parenthood is trying to explain here they're basically in the preventing pregnancies business. Abortions only account for 3% of their business; it's hardly important to them. Why is it so mportant to you?

No. Fighting for women's healthcare is noble and rational.

You have the weird obsession.

You want to stop funding based on a procedure you can't even explain why you dislike it to the point where you would cut off basic health services to the most poor and most needy in society.

Why?

 

[Que]

Apparently you are.

You're being completely irrational - must be hysteria based.

I'm irrational?

You're the one that can't even stay on planned parenthood's carefully prepared and focus group sanitized talking points.

You keep bringing up abortion as if that is important to Planned Parenthood. Would you go back and read their press releases and try to stay on message?

 

[adrina]

I'm irrational?

You're the one that can't even stay on planned parenthood's carefully prepared carefully focus grouped alking points.

You keep bringing up abortion as if that is important to Planned Parenthood. Would you go back and read their press releases and try to stay on message?

Abortion is important to women.


I hate to repeat myself, but...


You want to stop funding based on a procedure you can't even explain why you dislike it to the point where you would cut off basic health services to the most poor and most needy in society.

Why?

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Abortion is important to women.


I hate to repeat myself, but...


You want to stop funding based on a procedure you can't even explain why you dislike it to the point where you would cut off basic health services to the most poor and most needy in society.

Why?

Abortion is not important to all women. To many, it is an abomination. Many people feel life begins at conception and as such they believe abortion is ending a life. I do not agree, but that is a valid belief. Why are you so intolerant, why do you pretend there is no rationale for having a differing opinion than yours? Your intolerance is a reason why people vote in the opposite direction, and is a reason why this de-funding effort will probably be successful.

You have to understand and respect the other side if you want to defeat it. We now can clearly see what arrogance gets you... review who won and lost in the last election season if you have forgotten.

 

[Que]

@ adrina:
That's a little better. Closer to the approved talking points except for the strawman you are constructing that I "hate" abortion. If someone ignores your unappealing histrionics long enough to knock you up, link me to the go-fund me page and I will give generously to prevent another one of you. Similarly, if you find those evil Republicans have taken away your birthcontrol, lemme know. I'll kick in tbe $9.

 

[adrina]

Abortion is not important to all women. To many, it is an abomination. Many people feel life begins at conception and as such they believe abortion is ending a life. I do not agree, but that is a valid belief. Why are you so intolerant, why do you pretend there is no rationale for having a differing opinion than yours? Your intolerance is a reason why people vote in the opposite direction, and is a reason why this de-funding effort will probably be successful.

You have to understand and respect the other side if you want to defeat it. We now can clearly see what arrogance gets you... review who won and lost in the last election season if you have forgotten.

That's what pro-choice is - a recognition of the other side. As opposed to places like China that mandate abortions.

I didn't say ALL women. But you cannot deny that abortion is an important part of women's healthcare, surely?

I don't care if a person has a different opinion they wish to apply to themselves. It's when they wish to apply their opinion to others I have a problem with. As should you.

 

[adrina]

That's a little better. Closer to the approved talking points except for the strawman you are constructing that I "hate" abortion. If someone ignores your unappealing histrionics long enough to knock me up, link me to the go-fund me page and I will give generously to prevent another one of you. Similarly, if you find those evil Republicans have taken away your birthcontrol, lemme know. I'll kick in tbe $9.

Again, why do you want to defund a health organization that provides essential health services to the most needy of society based on the fact they provide abortions?

Why?

 

[Que]

Again, why do you want to defund a health organization that provides essential health services to the most needy of society based on the fact they provide abortion?

Why?

Because they, and you have been consistantly lying about what it is that they actually do with huge sums of federal money that could be better spent on other priorities. Same as many other programs that I would favor aborting from the Federal budget.

$700,000,000 in profits is reason enough to reduce their budget by at least 3/4 of a billion, yes? You have no problem taking "excessive profits" away from corporations through taxation and dictating their costs of labor, right?

If Democrats had spent inly what Trump spent deceating Hillary, all that excess money could have more than funded Planned Parenthood.

I'm a big fan of the Second Amendment and self-defense. How come we don't have a federal program to distribute bullets to people who want to practice their marksmanship? Why do you hate guns so much that you are willing to let innocent bystanders be KILLED by errant bullets or victims die when the miss tbeir attackers because you wont support funding of this worthy cause? Hell... the federal government already has warehouses full of bullets stacked on pallets. Why can't they give those out?

Why do you not care about accurate firearm discharges? People could die.

Why?

 

[adrina]

Because they, and you have been consistantly lying about what it is that they actually do with huge sums of federal money that could be better spent on other priorities. Same as many other programs that I would favor aborting from the Federal budget.

$700,000,000 in profits is reason enough to reduce their budget by at least 3/4 of a billion, yes? You have no problem taking "excessive profits" away from corporations through taxation and dictating their costs of labor, right?

If Democrats had spent inly what Trump spent deceating Hillary, all that excess money could have more than funded Planned Parenthood.

I'm a big fan of the Second Amendment and self-defense. How come we don't have a federal program to distribute bullets to people who want to practice their marksmanship? Why do you hate guns so much that you are willing to let innocent bystanders be KILLED by errant bullets or victims die when the miss tbeir attackers because you wont support funding of this worthy cause? Hell... the federal government already has warehouses full of bullets stacked on pallets. Why can't they give those out?

Why do you not care about accurate firearm discharges? People could die.

Why?

Nice BotanyBoy level of ridiculousness.

If you want to talk government subsidies and how much of an "investment" they are into society, we should look to the oil industries. But they don't provide abortions, so they aren't on your radar. Oil companies get $4 billion of taxpayer money yet Exxon Mobil raked in over $32 billion in profits.

Your vitriol isn't about taxpayer money.