Philosorgasmic

pagancowgirl said:
Ah but Nathon... you can't even begin to give until you've learned to take... selflessness is deadly and lonely and gray.

Be selfish... have a true meeting of the minds... an all night mind fuck... take and take and take until you don't even realize that you're really giving.

I always come across PCG's posts too late at night! I find many full of profound, often counter our nurturing-truths{ These are the beliefs we receive, often from grandparents, church and family}.

This one is classic. Put others first, move over for your little brother, always think of others before yourself.
It's not a question of not thinking of others and considering them, it's a matter of priority.

Nathon - you have a life: it is your life. It is a gift your parents have given to you. This is your life to take care of.
When as a parent you give a child life - with the help of your partner - it is like any gift. Once given you can't say to the person - I did give you it, but I want you to use it differently. A lot of parents do just that actually and it causes havoc in lives! It's not much of a gift if you keep control over its use.

But you have this life. It is your responsibility, noone elses. Therefore, your first responsibility is to care for your life. Everyone you encounter in life is in the same position. PCG is so right - and moreover there is nothing else possible. If you think you are taking care of others you are deluding yourself. You can only take care of yourself.
It is possible for people who love you to help you care for yourself - in fact it's a great feeling that, being loved in that way. You can do the same in return - but in the end the only person who can look after your life is yourself.
Unless you learn to do that first, it's pretty difficult to help others in their task of loving themselves.
 
GreenEyedGirl said:


Perfect! Exactly the phrase to flesh out this discussion (pun intended! I'm feeling punchy tonight)

Intellicourse. The communion of two intellects. The connection between touch and thought. The fucking of the whole person, as Free so eloquently wrote.

LOL and it also sounds like an internet correspondence course.



And yes Free, every lover I have ever been with has a place in my soul and mind for as long as I have both. To get my legs to spread, you must have spread my mind first! And that in itself is more intimate than copulation alone. So how could they not be in my heart? And I hope that tradition continues.

And is that considered a "male" trait? I thought that women were supposed to be more sentimental in the strains of love and sex? Are men as touched by intellicourse? Interesting thought.

That's what I suspected all along - the male is inveigled into bed by the spread leg vision, only to find his mind and heart captured. I caricature male paranoia with respect to women - but something of this is surely behind much of the Catholic churches attitudes to women over the centuries.
Would you not like to experiment the other way round, GeG?
 
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freescorfr said:


That's what I suspected all along - the male is inveigled into bed by the spread leg vision, only to find his mind and heart captured. I caricature male paranoia with respect to women - but something of this is surely behind much of the Catholic churches attitudes to women over the centuries.
Would you not like to experiment the other way round, GeG?

Ah, what a tengled web we weave, when we spread our legs wide and ensnare the male mind!
So men are lured by the physical only to find themselves enamoured by the mental?

And experiement the other way? You mean spread my legs first? lol
 
GreenEyedGirl said:


Ah, what a tengled web we weave, when we spread our legs wide and ensnare the male mind!
So men are lured by the physical only to find themselves enamoured by the mental?

And experiement the other way? You mean spread my legs first? lol

Enamoured by the person.

Actually it's why a lot of porn is tedious for me. There is no clear rapport between the people. When it stays only in the physical it does not engage me. I'm sure there's plenty on this in the threads here. Must ask the expert, Riff.

Surely this is one of the great attractions of Lit? We get drawn in by the open legs and find real people. Like discoveing the Americas instead of slipping over the edge into the bottomless pit.

No, indeed, there are real bottoms here.
 
freescorfr said:


Enamoured by the person.

Actually it's why a lot of porn is tedious for me. There is no clear rapport between the people. When it stays only in the physical it does not engage me. I'm sure there's plenty on this in the threads here. Must ask the expert, Riff.

Surely this is one of the great attractions of Lit? We get drawn in by the open legs and find real people. Like discoveing the Americas instead of slipping over the edge into the bottomless pit.

No, indeed, there are real bottoms here.

Enamoured of the person, of course, but the mental is a large part of that. The lure of the physical, the spread legs, can be a siren's song that is more powerful than any other enticement. And to have the whole person as well, I guess that is why love hurts. We can not walk away easily.

And I am curious about the porn question too, is it only the physical? Is there any more? riff - you are need here, you're expertise is wanted. (where is that scary eyed man anyway?)


And the bottoms here cover all the definitions that exist I do believe. ;)
 
GreenEyedGirl said:


Enamoured of the person, of course, but the mental is a large part of that. The lure of the physical, the spread legs, can be a siren's song that is more powerful than any other enticement. And to have the whole person as well, I guess that is why love hurts. We can not walk away easily.

And I am curious about the porn question too, is it only the physical? Is there any more? riff - you are need here, you're expertise is wanted. (where is that scary eyed man anyway?)


And the bottoms here cover all the definitions that exist I do believe. ;)

I still think the experiment is worth a try.
 
Two subjects
Both horny
No intention of future involvement.
They fuck.
They both walk away from it.

Neither gives the other a thought - other than sex thought/memory - which can be reported on/tested after, say, five days.


That would be the opposite of intellicourse.

I think it is a priori impossible, especially with Lit people since we all meet each other through words in the first place. Earlier on I was talking about attraction - why it is that on the internet we are attracted to some people much more than others. There must be a set of signals we pick up through words alone. So the intelli bit is there from the start.


Perhaps the way to do it would be to get Yayati to fuck a female newbie right off, no messing and see if they connected intellectually.

Otherwise, in the interests of science I am willing to volunteer and do my best to fuck mindlessly.
 
freescorfr said:
Two subjects
Both horny
No intention of future involvement.
They fuck.
They both walk away from it.

Neither gives the other a thought - other than sex thought/memory - which can be reported on/tested after, say, five days.


That would be the opposite of intellicourse.

I think it is a priori impossible, especially with Lit people since we all meet each other through words in the first place. Earlier on I was talking about attraction - why it is that on the internet we are attracted to some people much more than others. There must be a set of signals we pick up through words alone. So the intelli bit is there from the start.


Perhaps the way to do it would be to get Yayati to fuck a female newbie right off, no messing and see if they connected intellectually.

Otherwise, in the interests of science I am willing to volunteer and do my best to fuck mindlessly.


Are there large enough notebooks in the world to record this experiement? lol

And since this is for posterity, and the interest of science is at the forefront, I think it is just beautifullt selfless of you Free to volunteer like that. Really, just lovely of you. ;)
 
Yes, GeG, I feel just now a bit like John Glen.
Or Columbus even.
 
freescorfr said:
Two subjects
Both horny
No intention of future involvement.
They fuck.
They both walk away from it.

Neither gives the other a thought - other than sex thought/memory - which can be reported on/tested after, say, five days.


That would be the opposite of intellicourse.


Been there, done that. It's goo for physical release, but ultimately not that much more satisfying than masturbation. If there is complete absence of mental connection, the 5 day window isn't needed. There's nothing there but physical memory as soon as the act is complete.

I think it is a priori impossible, especially with Lit people since we all meet each other through words in the first place. Earlier on I was talking about attraction - why it is that on the internet we are attracted to some people much more than others. There must be a set of signals we pick up through words alone. So the intelli bit is there from the start.

That's true. Obviously, the physical is hidden here, even in a small way by those of us who post pics of ourselves. The brain is engaged first, and by the time physical reality is a factor, you're either entrenched or not based on so many other things.

Perhaps the way to do it would be to get Yayati to fuck a female newbie right off, no messing and see if they connected intellectually.

What an ethical nightmare! Are we having said newbie sign a release, or are you offering to pay for the required therapy afterward?

Otherwise, in the interests of science I am willing to volunteer and do my best to fuck mindlessly.


Good man! The perfect example of selfish selflessness!
 
Then there must be the possibility of the intelli-gangbang, either were all the guys line up and the girl passes down the line bringing them all to a pilolosorgasm or the guys take it in turns, with one girl.
Not to be confused with the philorgy - a chaoticly mind-blowing experience for all.

What do you think would be the best, and for which sex?

No it doesn't work in my mind at all - philorgasms have, as an essential element the one-to-one. Can anyone fit the concept to groups?

Well that's another experiment crying out for investigation.
 
Are you in for an experiment then Luscious? Remember the secret code.
 
"Philographic Pornosophy"

Riff, as the expert, is it possible to be purely altruistic in the matter of pornosophy? I love your philographic av
 
freescorfr said:
"Philographic Pornosophy"

Riff, as the expert, is it possible to be purely altruistic in the matter of pornosophy? I love your philographic av

I think so. I hope so. I think so.

You know that rebecca is from Paris?
 
*ahem*

The role of John Glenn will be played by our own Scot, Free. The differentiation between the intelli-gang bang, the philorgy, and intellicourse will be discussed, and then using scientific method we will delve into the nuances of each.

Afterwards, our own porn expert, riff, will offer his views on Philographic Pornosophy. Slides will be shown, and the theatre will be darkened for optimal viewing, so please, make sure you have a good seat and a pleasing seatmate.

After lunch, which will be oysters on the half shell, asparagus tips in hollandaise, and atichoke hearts followed by cinnamon flan, the ever delightful PCG will head the discussion on the origins of intellicourse, a word she was kind enough to bring into our realm of knowledge. A side topic will be the corrolation between masturbation and non-mental connection in partnered sex.

To end the day I will be offering classes in philosorgasms. Clothing, if opted for, should be loose and non restrictive. Be prepared to move about and experience some physical exertion.

Our second day is still wide open, so anyone interested in participating, should post their ideas here. And anyone interested in attending, should also post their interests.


:D


(I am having some fun now!)
 
Yes, I am interested in participating.

I propose to offer a lecture on my original discourse on this thread regarding MindFucks for, as well all know, tis an ill wind that blows no minds. This lecture will be a hands (and other body parts) on demonstration of how when one engages the mind, the body will follow.

The title of this lecture is, of course, "Intellecstacy: The MindFuck BrainBliss Connection

If funding permits I propose bringing in Ho Chi Zen of the Erisian Liberation Front as my co-lecturer. ( Ho Chih Zen ist die selbe Person, aber nicht dasselbe Individuum, wie Lord Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst, Autor von The Honest Book of Truth.)

This lecture will vary randomly from the trivial to the collosal. Any requests for the syllabus must be submitted to me in writing but will be totally ignored and returned to the sender.

Please keep in mind that this post is top secret.

Signed,

Dillinger,
Minister of the gospel,
Paratheo-Anametamystikhood of Eris Esoteric,
Sacred Chao Ranch

http://www.operationmindfuck.net/images/om_zwerge.jpg
 
Dilly,
You are scheduled to head the second day of our symposium.
But if you bring those freaky gnomes, I can not be held responsible for any wrong doing that may befall them while the MindFucking is being analyzed and discussed.
And if they are going to be a part of the BrainBliss, you'll have to fund your own lecture series, as that is a completely different fetish that frankly makes me a bit queasy.
Let me know what you will be requiring for visual aids. ;)
 
Visual Aids:

You, GeG. I will need someone to help... demonstrate. Since you just offered, the
"position" is yours.
 
Dillinger said:
Yes, I am interested in participating.

I propose to offer a lecture on my original discourse on this thread regarding MindFucks for, as well all know, tis an ill wind that blows no minds. This lecture will be a hands (and other body parts) on demonstration of how when one engages the mind, the body will follow.

The title of this lecture is, of course, "Intellecstacy: The MindFuck BrainBliss Connection

Sign me up!
 
Apart from GeG's gnome prejudice, returning from Paris to find Riff, Dilly and Pagancowgirl enthusiastically anticipating the philosorgasmic revolution is mind-seducation at its most powerful.
Dillingers slogan "From the trivial to the collosal" can be plastered everywhere under our logo. Any Logo suggestions for our Intellicourse and intellecstacy congress [it is congress, I hope].

I think, that we'd better keep gnomes out of the logo, Dilly. Maybe a horse whip, from Pagancowgirl to symbolise, synaptic eroto-connectivity?
 
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