Our poor Communities Are Eating Themselves

[Sean Renaud]

Poverty is no excuse for crime.

During the early 1980's I lived and worked in downtown San Jose, California. The area was engulfed by Vietnamese war refugees. Most were desperately poor. They were also good people. They took any job they could find and obeyed the law. Vietnamese teenagers did not harass their teachers. They tried to learn, although many could barely speak English. Vietnamese teenagers did not spend their nights getting into trouble. They did their homework. I often got off work at 10:00 pm, and walked two miles to get to my apartment. I walked through what had become a largely Vietnamese neighborhood and was perfectly safe.

Would I have been safe walking through a black neighborhood that late? Would a black person have been safe? Ask Jesse Jackson.


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Poverty isn't an excuse for crime. You're correct. Its a reason for it.

 

[Rightguide]

Poverty isn't an excuse for crime. You're correct. Its a reason for it.

Today, some claim crime in Black neighborhoods is caused by poverty. Yet during the Great Depression, when poverty was widespread, Black communities were remarkably orderly. People slept on their porches without fear, and broken families were rare. As Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell have noted, strong families and tight-knit communities kept crime low long before government programs or modern social theories ever existed.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Today, some claim crime in Black neighborhoods is caused by poverty. Yet during the Great Depression, when poverty was widespread, Black communities were remarkably orderly. People slept on their porches without fear, and broken families were rare. As Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell have noted, strong families and tight-knit communities kept crime low long before government programs or modern social theories ever existed.

I honestly don't care about the Great Depression since I would have to do such a deep dive into what was going on at the time that I don't have the time or interest to do right now. Though anything coming from Sowell is instantly suspect. Especially since he doesn't speak of how the right deliberatly attacked strong families and tight knight communities.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

Bro it looks like these 2 are eating the entire poor community.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

Black communities were remarkably orderly.

Bro the reason behind the success of blacks during the depression was the cause of something sinister. Blacks couldn't have bank accounts so when the banks failed, blacks were largely unaffected and ended up saving Cadillac.

 

[Rightguide]

I honestly don't care about the Great Depression since I would have to do such a deep dive into what was going on at the time that I don't have the time or interest to do right now. Though anything coming from Sowell is instantly suspect. Especially since he doesn't speak of how the right deliberatly attacked strong families and tight knight communities.

This baseless statement about one of the greatest living black Americans is a measure of your dismal grasp of history and economics. Calling anything Sowell says ‘instantly suspect’ isn’t a critique; it's you erecting a billboard advertising your ignorance.

 

[Rightguide]

So you support increasing funding for full time police officers patrolling shopping centers and grocery stores.

The more you guys open up about what you want, the clearer it is that you want a militarized country.


"Right to steal" ? What does that even mean?

Many ghetto thugs are saying they have a right to steal.

 

[ll74]

Many ghetto thugs are saying they have a right to steal.

Lmao....... Ok, I'll bite - how many "ghetto thugs" are saying this? I'm assuming you have a poll to reference?

What constitutes a "ghetto thug"? Please define

And I'm sure you have cities of "ghetto thugs" saying this that you can reference.

 

[Bn2f]

Ahhhh, the Great Depression.
The biggest loss of wealth, at the time, in world history caused by the corruption (theft) of white men on Wall Street. Exacerbated by tariffs. Duplicated again and again for the past 90 years. Calls for increased regulation always met with lessening that placed the economy in position for a yet another repeat. Punishment amounting to a slap on the wrist. The white men that led to the losses (theft) in the past are still here and still convincing their dumber, less fortunate rubes of incandescent skin that minority and poor (as they themselves are) deserve even less than the rusted pot they have to piss in and should be executed for stealing.

 

[Rightguide]

Lmao....... Ok, I'll bite - how many "ghetto thugs" are saying this? I'm assuming you have a poll to reference?

What constitutes a "ghetto thug"? Please define

And I'm sure you have cities of "ghetto thugs" saying this that you can reference.

Stop with the pretended ignorance. Look at the video in post #1.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Mostly these stores are being closed down by wholesale shoplifting and other crime by their "clientele."

Automated stores are the answer - order online or from a kiosk. Pay online. Your order is delivered....or you can come and pick it up from order pickup.

Of course there are issues - illteracy is one and online access is another. But bullet and assault-proof kiosks in an automated kiosk (no humans) where your order is delivered to you should be able to deal with that.

As for illiteracy, images and audio interaction.... Now you might not have a debit or credit card but the clientele are mostly on EBT anyhow - and doing it this way means we can cut all the unhealthy and high sugar foods out of their diets too. NO junk food.

 

[ll74]

Stop with the pretended ignorance. Look at the video in post #1.

So no one is saying it's their right and you're making up shit. Also, you refuse to define "ghetto thug"

Got it

 

[ChloeTzang]

This is where supermarket shopping is going folks. One of my granddads is in this business and the big chains are all going in this direction. It cuts shoplifting to zero, it cuts their personnel costs big time. They're all closing down stores and putting fulfillment centers like this in. No cash issues, it's all paid for online, no theft, they can put the fulfillment centers in civilized zones where staff are not at risk,

For food desert areas where theft means you cannot deliver, you simply have secure pickup depots - deliveries made by Brinks armored trucks and placed in storage lockers that only the ordering customer can access. If crime is a major issue, and peoples food is being stolen from them after they pick it up, then the police can guard them. Of course if I was the supermarket, I'd have the local community pay for the pickup stations and security - it's their behavior that causes the issue to start with.

And if EBT cards are not permitted to pay for any high-sugar and additive content items, all that hyper high-sugar-and junk-food-driven behavior should be moderated too.

 

[Chernosoth]

Robots?

 

[coati]

Many ghetto thugs are saying they have a right to steal.

Many people are saying you're an asshole.

Do these "many people" statements form a statistical basis for the development of facts, or are they just anecdotes?

 

[schism666]

Many ghetto thugs are saying they have a right to steal.

you post one video that doesn't even say what you want it to say and you come at him with, "many ghetto thugs."

you're a fucking joke. an unfunny racist joke.

 

[schism666]

Bro it looks like these 2 are eating the entire poor community.

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god damn. they got saggy tiddies in the front and the back.

 

[Sean Renaud]

This baseless statement about one of the greatest living black Americans is a measure of your dismal grasp of history and economics. Calling anything Sowell says ‘instantly suspect’ isn’t a critique; it's you erecting a billboard advertising your ignorance.

He is not one of the greatest living black Americans by any measure. He's trash and taking him seriously is a waste of perfectly good energy. He occasionally (mostly by accident) gets something correct but most often he fucks it up. I didn't offer it as a critique by the way, that would require me to sit through another of his videos and picking it apart line by line and until I start making money being political I'm not doing that again.

You can keep up the insults because we both know at the end of the day that is the only thing you have going for you.

 

[JohnEngelman]

That's your justification for cracking down on poor black communities with more punishment and fewer social services? The USA already tried that in a systematic way before the Civil Rights movement. It did not work, and actually led to the Civil Rights movement.

Just like the MAGAts, you want to take the USA back to those days. You just happen to use Jews and what you call "orientals" as your cudgel for reversing the course of the Civil Rights movement.

During the civil rights movement a Republican friend of mine who supported the civil right legislation, but less enthusiastically than I did asked me, "Why was it never necessary to pass laws prohibiting discrimination against Orientals and Jews?"

I could not answer his question.

Now I know that the answer is, "Orientals and Jews proved that they are good people."

 

[Sean Renaud]

The real answer is most American Jews are passing and pretty difficult to really discriminate against and Orientals were discriminated against. They more often than you think get reminded that they aren't white.

 

[JohnEngelman]

The real answer is most American Jews are passing and pretty difficult to really discriminate against and Orientals were discriminated against. They more often than you think get reminded that they aren't white.

Orientals still tend to be more prosperous than whites.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Orientals still tend to be more prosperous than whites.

Ultimately that's a separate conversation though.

 

[coati]

During the civil rights movement a Republican friend of mine who supported the civil right legislation, but less enthusiastically than I did asked me, "Why was it never necessary to pass laws prohibiting discrimination against Orientals and Jews?"

I could not answer his question.

Now I know that the answer is, "Orientals and Jews proved that they are good people."

^^^That's the dumbest interpretation of black history in the USA that I've ever heard.

Ever hear of the slave ships, slave sales, slavery, the Civil War, the Jim Crow era, "separate but equal" doctrine, Edmund Pettus Bridge, Emmett Till, etc?

Seeing humanity from a eugenics perspective has made you one of the most racist posters on this board.

 

[coati]

Bro it looks like these 2 are eating the entire poor community.

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Amen, Bro.

And if their belts get any higher, they can double as a bra.

 

[DraggonStone]

13 Supermarkets ABANDON Milwaukee… Over Theft Epidemic​

July 30, 2025 2:20 pm by Alex Mark


5 entire grocery stores are leaving the city of Milwaukee at once, along with 2 walgreens locations. Local officials and residents are outraged, and want the stores to stay. Kroger who owns the 5 Pick n Save locations says the stores are leaving for ‘health of the business’ reasons… which requires an investigation.

https://citizenwatchreport.com/13-supermarkets-abandon-milwaukee-over-theft-epidemic/

https://www.the-sun.com/news/10023064/walgreens-closing-stores-theft-threats-milwaukee-wisconsin/

Why supermarkets have abandoned some of America’s poorest neighborhoods​

"Supermarkets have abandoned the inner city for suburban and exurban locations"​

By Ashlie D. Stevens
Senior Food Editor

Published March 24, 2024 9:00AM (EDT)​

A "Going Out Of Business"sign is displayed outside a retail store (Bloomberg Creative Photos/Getty Images)
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Despite the recent news that Family Dollar would be closing nearly 1,000 of their 8,000 American locations, dollar stores are spreading across the country at a staggering rate. Since 2011, the number of dollar stores nationwide has climbed from 20,000 to over 30,000, meaning there are now more dollar stores than Walmart and McDonald’s combined, according to a report from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Though they rarely carry fresh fruit, vegetables and meat — and despite likely exacerbating American food deserts — dollar stores are actually the fastest-growing food retailers in the United States, according to a 2023 study from experts at Tufts University School of Medicine and the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy, which was published in the American Journal of Public Health.

There are a variety of reasons for that, but one of the most significant by far is the way in which big-name supermarkets have largely abandoned, or avoided, many low-income neighborhoods over the last half-century, leaving a gigantic vacuum for dollar stores to fill, specifically in urban communities of color.

https://www.salon.com/2024/03/24/wh...doned-some-of-americas-poorest-neighborhoods/

Then they hold demonstrations saying that having food is a right.

What is your solution to retail theft?