Ok I am pulling this out from one thread, to discuss it here without totally hijackin

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[Le Jacquelope]

Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but I thought the exposing of ANY personal information was forbidden.

May be the culprit should be banned.

That would be WARMACHINE. Repeatedly, right here on the GB. He reposted that address just a few days ago, in fact.

I haven't posted any addresses recently on Lit. On usenet, yes, but not on Lit.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

 

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[Byron In Exile]

Actually...it is byron in exile who feels it is most certainly ok, because phone books have peoples addresses in it.
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Then Byron is saying... "there is nothing wrong with it!"

You have no clue what I think, and you are putting words in my mouth.

Please get someone to explain to you the proper use of quotation marks.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

reposting it on usenet does not make you any less guilty.

Agreed. But until now ALL OF the blame for this whole debacle was being laid on my doorstep.

Nothing is ever offensive around here until I retaliate.

That's why I have no respect at all for the so-called lectures that happen about "right and wrong" on the GB. I lost total respect for it way back when people were laughing about rape threats at Native Alien.

 

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[Ishmael]

it may not be a crime until the CC # is used.

But whoever gave out the # put the actualy CC holders info out for anyone to grab....and use.

warmachine put the people at the address at risk. Though harm may never come to them, he still put them at risk. An unnesessary risk.


Same with a CC #. You put one online...a real one and there becomes a HIGH risk someone will use it.

Though harm coming to someone at that address is unlikely, it was still an unnesessary risk to post it, especially to someone who obviously dislikes them, and may not be in the right state of mind.

The fact of the matter is is that if I have your CC # and I give that information to a third party, I have commited no crime. Period. That is not to say that what I did was smart or ethical. But it certainly wasn't a crime.

If that third party uses that information to defraud you, now a criminal act has been commited. My culpability is zero unless I knew how that information was going to be used and/or profited from it's use in some way.

Ishmael

 

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[Le Jacquelope]

this thread is not to clear your name.

Yes it inviolves 2 of you.

Too bad it had to come to this before someone finally admitted it was all wrong.

The denouncements could have started when the addresses were first being thrown around by you-know-who.

But hey, better late than never...

 

[Angel]

Too bad it had to come to this before someone finally admitted it was all wrong.

The denouncements could have started when the addresses were first being thrown around by you-know-who.

But hey, better late than never...

Yeah, sorry but I ragged on him way before right now, even when I thought it was his address.

 

[The Heretic]

Re: I suppose I'll Just Copy/Paste

Honestly, I doubt anything will happen. I think the chances are slim to none.

However, I do think it was irresponsible on both of their parts to both use/post the address in the first place and then to take it to the newsgroups as it was.

Yes, the chances are slim, but nowadays with all of the fucked up people using the internet, you just can't be too careful - and if something were to happen to the person living at that address, the both of them should be held fully responsible for it.

It has nothing to do with 'self respect' and everything to do with anger/emotional reaction/mental instability.


A responsible adult wouldn't put some innocent, unknowing party at risk - no matter how small - over a stupid internet brawl.


Crazier things have happened.

Angel!

What happened to you?!?

You got all reasonable, logical and things like that!!

 

[The Heretic]

quote:
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Originally posted by LovingTongue
Too bad it had to come to this before someone finally admitted it was all wrong.

The denouncements could have started when the addresses were first being thrown around by you-know-who.

But hey, better late than never...
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Hey LT - yeah right, like you had nothing to do with this. What you did was ten times worse. You never miss a chance to deflect the blame do you?

 

[Angel]

Re: Re: I suppose I'll Just Copy/Paste

Angel!

What happened to you?!?

You got all reasonable, logical and things like that!!

Sometimes I put the girl in me aside and become rational.

 

[phrodeau]

Originally posted by LovingTongue (edited)
My my, how beautiful it is to watch the amoral chickens as they come back home to roost and now people are finally starting to acknowledge that this shitfest was not just my fault.

Glad to see that you are accepting at least some of the blame.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Hey LT - yeah right, like you had nothing to do with this.

I never said that I had nothing to do with this. Ya dumb senile fucker.

 

[The Heretic]

Re: Re: Re: I suppose I'll Just Copy/Paste

Sometimes I put the girl in me aside and become rational.

Well, don't let it happen again - it confuses me.

 

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[Byron In Exile]

see there ya go...trying to take the attention off you and put it on to me.

That would be because you're lying.

And you did insinuate there was nothing wrong with it and here is your post about the phone books.

Oh, first it's "Byron feels it is most certainly ok," and "Byron says, 'There is nothing wrong with it!'"

Now, it's "You did insinuate..."

Note that what you said, verbatim, is enclosed in quotation marks.

You have made excuses forit, over and over again.

You have made false claims and no sense over and over again.

You think there is nothing wrong with it.

I think you're being overly bold to even presume, with your obviously limited comprehension skills, to have a clue about what I think.

Anyone can go to that thread and see that.

Let's go there, shall we?

I'll quote what was said, though, rather than make stuff up. I hope that's okay with you.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Before we look at that thread, let's have a look at what you've said so far in this one:

That is what I think to.
However, Byron in exile feels it is perfectly ok to post a real address, even though it is fake to the person claiming it is theirs.

Actually...it is byron in exile who feels it is most certainly ok, because phone books have peoples addresses in it.


OK here is a little twist.


You are riht, it is very much like credit card fraud.

Wamachine gives smoene online a "real" credit card number....says it is his, Loving tongue uses it and posts it all over for everyone to see.

And in reality, it is a 42 year old father of 5.


Then Byron is saying... "there is nothing wrong with it!"

Right, they are both at fault.


However, byron is egging it on with LT.

He feels it is ok.



Posting it (LT and WARMACHINE) and approving of it.


All are guilty here in my eyes

This is such a confused mess, I don't know where to start with it. But since it's just you making stuff up about what I said and what I think, let's just call it crap for now and move on to what was actually said in the other thread.

 

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[Le Jacquelope]

This is such a confused mess, I don't know where to start with it. But since it's just you making stuff up about what I said and what I think, let's just call it crap for now and move on to what was actually said in the other thread.

Heh. That's it, Byron. Deny all culpability. Dance, Byron, dance!

 

[Ishmael]

I never said nything about it all be criminal. I said it was irresponsible.


Do you not agree?

I used different words but I think I said pretty much the same thing.

As far as criminal? Not so far but it has the possibility of becoming just that.

Ishmael