Oh, this should be fun.

[Sean]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-21220007

 

[neci]

i was side tracked by the cults of jane austen.

 

[unregistered]

 

[dolf]

ooo, fireworks!!

 

[Sean]

i was side tracked by the cults of jane austen.

Hah! So was Phelia yesterday.

 

[Tryharder62]

Interesting topic, but as long as people choose to believe in a higher power, there is a place.

 

[MonaLittle]

Debates give me a headache.

This one should be volatile.

 

[KRCummings]

Very rarely a clear winner in these types of debates so all you get is more arguing afterwards. Pointless. Now if it is the rare case of one totally wiping the floor with the other then it becomes more interesting simply because the two sides are so different. That won't happen here though because they're equally matched. A draw in a debate is boring.

 

[Sinny]

Interesting topic, but as long as people choose to believe in a higher power, there is a place.

What are you advocating here? It's unclear.

Also, a question. How do you reconcile your higher power's mandate that marriage be treated as a sacred covenant that must not be broken - while you solicit men for sexual banter? I am curious. I ask that honestly and would appreciate an honest answer. As an atheist, I do not understand how someone can believe in and say they follow scripture and yet they can figure out a way to disregard it at the same time. How does that work?

 

[KRCummings]

What are you advocating here? It's unclear.

Also, a question. How do you reconcile your higher power's mandate that marriage be treated as a sacred covenant that must not be broken - while you solicit men for sexual banter? I am curious. I ask that honestly and would appreciate an honest answer. As an atheist, I do not understand how someone can believe in and say they follow scripture and yet they can figure out a way to disregard it at the same time. How does that work?

That means no divorce or adultery. The subject of sex with other partners where the spouse is agreeable is never brought up to my knowledge. Most clergy will recognize that what a husband and wife choose to do is fine as long as both are ok with it. They will however say that's it's a dangerous path to take and for the most part they're right.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

What are you advocating here? It's unclear.

Also, a question. How do you reconcile your higher power's mandate that marriage be treated as a sacred covenant that must not be broken - while you solicit men for sexual banter? I am curious. I ask that honestly and would appreciate an honest answer. As an atheist, I do not understand how someone can believe in and say they follow scripture and yet they can figure out a way to disregard it at the same time. How does that work?

As a atheist you should not care. My biggest issue with the religious types is their need to talk to me about it (second only to their hypocrisy). To see how they can change my mind, often taking the tact of "I am curious, how could you not believe in the bible"?

You know...kind of like you are doing here. Just saying.

 

[Sinny]

That means no divorce or adultery. The subject of sex with other partners where the spouse is agreeable is never brought up to my knowledge. Most clergy will recognize that what a husband and wife choose to do is fine as long as both are ok with it. They will however say that's it's a dangerous path to take and for the most part they're right.

Isn't adultery defined in scripture as simply having sex with partners other than a spouse? Or is adultery defined as sex *without* permission? I suppose the scripture does not define internet cyber sex. I have a difficult time understanding the scripture, I have not read much scripture, but it seems that there are so many people who call themselves followers, but they don't display the behaviors of followers.

 

[trysail]

i was side tracked by the cults of jane austen.

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[trysail]

i was side tracked by the cults of jane austen.

​

 

[KRCummings]

Isn't adultery defined in scripture as simply having sex with partners other than a spouse? Or is adultery defined as sex *without* permission? I suppose the scripture does not define internet cyber sex. I have a difficult time understanding the scripture, I have not read much scripture, but it seems that there are so many people who call themselves followers, but they don't display the behaviors of followers.

There is no common legal or religious definition and the Bible doesn't clarify much but it's mostly understood it means cheating.
People who expect followers of any of the major religions to strictly follow their scriptures are being most unreasonable as it is accepted in all religions that we are sinners and our failings are expected.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

What are you advocating here? It's unclear.

Also, a question. How do you reconcile your higher power's mandate that marriage be treated as a sacred covenant that must not be broken - while you solicit men for sexual banter? I am curious. I ask that honestly and would appreciate an honest answer. As an atheist, I do not understand how someone can believe in and say they follow scripture and yet they can figure out a way to disregard it at the same time. How does that work?

No problem; the bible is full of loopholes.

 

[warrior queen]

Richard Dawkins came onto a show here last year and absolutely anihillated our Catholic Cardinal Pell.
Pell was on the back foot for almost the entire show.
He had no rational responses to most of what Dawkins asked.

 

[torchthebitch]

Very rarely a clear winner in these types of debates

The winner in this one will be Islam.

 

[Tryharder62]

What are you advocating here? It's unclear.

Also, a question. How do you reconcile your higher power's mandate that marriage be treated as a sacred covenant that must not be broken - while you solicit men for sexual banter? I am curious. I ask that honestly and would appreciate an honest answer. As an atheist, I do not understand how someone can believe in and say they follow scripture and yet they can figure out a way to disregard it at the same time. How does that work?

I just felt that the topical debate on whether "religion has a place in the 21st Century" was interesting. Obviously, there are a lot of people of varying faiths. There must be some need that a belief in a higher power is filling. I am not advocating that anybody believe as I do.

You know, I'll answer honestly. I'm sinning. I can't justify it. I can't reconcile it. I see life as a journey and I am trying to make it through it. If you had seen me before I started following this path and how far I've come you wouldn't believe it. And it is because of those truths I continue to strive to improve. In regard to this area I'm screwing up. Lonliness is winning out.

 

[Sinny]

I just felt that the topical debate on whether "religion has a place in the 21st Century" was interesting. Obviously, there are a lot of people of varying faiths. There must be some need that a belief in a higher power is filling. I am not advocating that anybody believe as I do.

You know, I'll answer honestly. I'm sinning. I can't justify it. I can't reconcile it. I see life as a journey and I am trying to make it through it. If you had seen me before I started following this path and how far I've come you wouldn't believe it. And it is because of those truths I continue to strive to improve. In regard to this area I'm screwing up. Lonliness is winning out.

That took serious guts to admit, good for you.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

*clicks

 

[KingOrfeo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-21220007

There's such thing as a "former" Archbishop of Canterbury? I thought it was a lifetime appointment, like the SCOTUS.

 

[Sean]

There's such thing as a "former" Archbishop of Canterbury? I thought it was a lifetime appointment, like the SCOTUS.

And, like the SCOTUS, one can resign. Like Rowan did a few weeks ago.

 

[KyleW]

I just felt that the topical debate on whether "religion has a place in the 21st Century" was interesting. Obviously, there are a lot of people of varying faiths. There must be some need that a belief in a higher power is filling. I am not advocating that anybody believe as I do.

You know, I'll answer honestly. I'm sinning. I can't justify it. I can't reconcile it. I see life as a journey and I am trying to make it through it. If you had seen me before I started following this path and how far I've come you wouldn't believe it. And it is because of those truths I continue to strive to improve. In regard to this area I'm screwing up. Lonliness is winning out.

I dislike you less now. I know that's what you were striving for.

 

[Peregrinator]

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm


^^^^Adultery, according to the Catholic Church.