Oh boy, I'm in over my head.

BrianRUtay

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Greetings BDSMers,

As the title indicates, I'm a complete newbie to all of this. I don't know which details are relevant but I'll try my best and then answer any questions:

I just turned 23 and have recently met a truly amazing girl (who will soon be 18). She's gorgeous, highly intelligent, funny, has impeccable taste in everything and...here's the kicker...completely submissive sexually. Needless to say she has far more experience in this area than I do. We met randomly online and live more than a few hours apart but it's gotten very serious very fast. We webcam/talk on the phone constantly and have discussed me going out there this summer.

During our webcam 'sessions' I can hold my own but I'm anxious about the real thing. And from my understanding, the Master shouldn't have weak knees and chattering teeth. I know I sound like some virginal schoolboy but this girl has that effect on me!!! :eek:

In relationships I'm typically the dominant one but I've never really thought about it in a conscious or formal way. I'm having trouble forming my question to you all because I'm not sure what it is I need to know. I'll learn on my own of course but I'd like to have some idea of what she is likely to expect of me.

So if you can give any advice, however general or specific, on what I should be attempting to do I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thank you!
Brian
 
Greetings BDSMers,

As the title indicates, I'm a complete newbie to all of this. I don't know which details are relevant but I'll try my best and then answer any questions:

I just turned 23 and have recently met a truly amazing girl (who will soon be 18). She's gorgeous, highly intelligent, funny, has impeccable taste in everything and...here's the kicker...completely submissive sexually. Needless to say she has far more experience in this area than I do. We met randomly online and live more than a few hours apart but it's gotten very serious very fast. We webcam/talk on the phone constantly and have discussed me going out there this summer.

During our webcam 'sessions' I can hold my own but I'm anxious about the real thing. And from my understanding, the Master shouldn't have weak knees and chattering teeth. I know I sound like some virginal schoolboy but this girl has that effect on me!!! :eek:

In relationships I'm typically the dominant one but I've never really thought about it in a conscious or formal way. I'm having trouble forming my question to you all because I'm not sure what it is I need to know. I'll learn on my own of course but I'd like to have some idea of what she is likely to expect of me.

So if you can give any advice, however general or specific, on what I should be attempting to do I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thank you!
Brian
First bit of advice: DO NOT go "out there" to see/meet with her until after her 18th birthday. You don't want to spend the rest of your summer vacation (and maybe the next 10 years or so) in jail.

Secondly, even if she has more r/l experience (and where and from whom did she get it, considering that she's a minor?!?!), she is (I hope) intelligent enough to realize that everyone has to begin *some*where. You haven't implied (or said :eek: ) that you're vastly experienced with floggers, singletails, cupping, electro-play, wax-play, fisting, canes, macramé, etc., have you? If not, be open with her that your r/l experience is minimal and that you're concerned that you might "disappoint" her in some areas, but you're confident that you can learn quickly, especially since you have such a great incentive (her!) to learn.

As far as what she might expect of you... well, that's where the number one mantra of relationships comes in: Communicate. CoMmUnIcAtE. COMMUNI-freakin'-CATE! Ask her what her interests are, tell her what yours are. Even better, find and both of you fill out one (or more) of the multitude of BDSM interests questionnaires available online. (Sometimes called "checklists.") Compare your responses, and then discuss both the areas in which you agree and the ones in which you disagree.

Oh, yeah... go through the BDSM Library, and see what floats your boat there, and maybe read some of the BDSM stories (just don't take them for any relationship to reality, k?).

Good luck.
 
First bit of advice: DO NOT go "out there" to see/meet with her until after her 18th birthday. You don't want to spend the rest of your summer vacation (and maybe the next 10 years or so) in jail.

Secondly, even if she has more r/l experience (and where and from whom did she get it, considering that she's a minor?!?!), she is (I hope) intelligent enough to realize that everyone has to begin *some*where. You haven't implied (or said :eek: ) that you're vastly experienced with floggers, singletails, cupping, electro-play, wax-play, fisting, canes, macramé, etc., have you? If not, be open with her that your r/l experience is minimal and that you're concerned that you might "disappoint" her in some areas, but you're confident that you can learn quickly, especially since you have such a great incentive (her!) to learn.

As far as what she might expect of you... well, that's where the number one mantra of relationships comes in: Communicate. CoMmUnIcAtE. COMMUNI-freakin'-CATE! Ask her what her interests are, tell her what yours are. Even better, find and both of you fill out one (or more) of the multitude of BDSM interests questionnaires available online. (Sometimes called "checklists.") Compare your responses, and then discuss both the areas in which you agree and the ones in which you disagree.

Oh, yeah... go through the BDSM Library, and see what floats your boat there, and maybe read some of the BDSM stories (just don't take them for any relationship to reality, k?).

Good luck.
macramé *melts* :cattail:
 
Thanks, Sir Winston.

We communicate very well so that shouldn't be an issue. I figured I should have some background information and some sort of clue beforehand instead of just asking.

I should have mentioned I'm more focused on behavior rather than material props. I mean she has a vibrator and handcuffs but neither of us have an interest at this point in anything more elaborate. But to give an example of what I'm referring to: I was reading about the Dom giving the sub certain tasks to perform during the day which intrigued me (I'm sure she's into this as well). Apparently something along these lines is common...

haha. That's excellent advice; she'll be legal by then. Yeah, it blew my mind too but she's been with a few much older men. 'Precocious' wouldn't even begin to describe her.

Thanks again for the tips and all the reading material. This will certainly help.
 
If you're worried about nerves the first time you dominate her in real life, it wouldn't hurt to plan the first session. You can deviate from the plan if the mood takes you because she won't know what it is. Having a clear game plan in your head will allow you to act with more confidence or 'fake it till you make it.'

A couple of good reads you might like to check out are The Loving Dominant, which examines the D/s dynamic and The New Topping Book, which has more practical advice on play.

I would advise you to agree a safeword as well. This is a word unrelated to sex like 'red' that she can say if things get too much. It allows her to say 'no' and mean 'yes' without you getting confused about what she's actually consenting to. The BDSM checklist idea is a good one and you can google for them without any trouble. Be aware that if she is unable to speak for any reason, she can't safeword so an agreed signal is also a good idea.
 
Please excuse the long post..I am restless tonight and my mind is working overtime...

Along with the good advice you have already received I would like to add a few things. I strongly suggest that you avoid having sex with this girl during your first trip to meet her face to face. She does sound absolutely perfect and for a girl who is almost 18yrs old...I think it is highly unlikely that in reality that she is such a precious perfect girl.
In fact my opinion is that no 17 year old girl has had enough life experience to be THAT perfect. However I could be wrong
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My warning here is this, many young girls who are trying to grow up real fast and become women..tend to seek relationships with older men ..simply as a ways to a means of getting out of their parents home. They are tired of having to adhere to rules and stay within the boundaries of living at home. They tell men what they know men want to hear, they can be manipulative and they can easily lie to you, mislead you and sound like they are more emotionally and sexually mature than they really are.

I mean to say, you don't really know for sure if she is being truthful with you or not do you? You only know what she has told you and you readily believe everything she says..because she is so intelligent, has great taste, is funny and gorgeous. That Brian is a mistake. If she is so fantastic and gorgeous, and such a catch then why is she chatting and having cam sessions with strange men so soon after meeting them on-line?
Why isn't she busy growing into a young woman , dating guys more her age or even older, guys she knows in her area, guys she meets in real life?. How did she meet with these older "Dominant" men, and what made her so ready and willing to be sexually submissive with them? How long was she with them and did she have relationships with these men or just have sex with them?

Does she have any clue how dangerous that is?
What kind of webcam sessions are you having with this girl? If they are sexual in nature do you realize you are breaking the law and puttiing yourself at risk for possible criminal charges, prosecution and jail time? Not only that but you could be marked as a child molester for the rest of your life...whether the webcam play and sexual chat is consensual or not.
All it takes is for her parents to read her Yahoo or IM program archive and they can find out what is going on between you and their underage daughter. The can report you to the police and they will track your IP address and any other info they find out, and they can find you. Or her parents could listen in on one of your phone conversations, get your ph# aznd find your address just from that.

I am not trying to shoot the possibility of having the relationship of your life with this girl...but you need to use your common sense here to and tread very carefully. If you want to dominate her body, you need to dominate her mind first. You need to slow down and take the time to know her, her motives, her living conditions and relationship with her parents..ect, ect, before you make the decision to have sex with her.

You say she has far more experience in this than you do. You have no experience in it at all right? So that is not saying much is it? She has told you she has been with a few such older men..was that in real life face to face or on-line?
If you want to play around at trying out your Dominance on her fine, but avoid giving her tasks that include anything of a sexual nature. Stop playing with her sexually on-line and do not talk dirty with her. See if her head is all wrapped up in the sexual side of being submissive or not.

If she is serious about this then giving her tasks like writing long essays & you name the topic with a time limit to have them completed by or doing household chores or running a mile a day should not bother her a bit. See if she will obey you with everyday things and make her show you proof. Steer away from sexual things for now..try to get a feel of where her head is at. Then move on from there. That is my advice.
 
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Please excuse the long post..I am restless tonight and my mind is working overtime...

Along with the good advice you have already received I would like to add a few things. I strongly suggest that you avoid having sex with this girl during your first trip to meet her face to face. She does sound absolutely perfect and for a girl who is almost 18yrs old...I think it is highly unlikely that in reality that she is such a precious perfect girl.
In fact my opinion is that no 17 year old girl has had enough life experience to be THAT perfect. However I could be wrong
.
My warning here is this, many young girls who are trying to grow up real fast and become women..tend to seek relationships with older men ..simply as a ways to a means of getting out of their parents home. They are tired of having to adhere to rules and stay within the boundaries of living at home. They tell men what they know men want to hear, they can be manipulative and they can easily lie to you, mislead you and sound like they are more emotionally and sexually mature than they really are.

I mean to say, you don't really know for sure if she is being truthful with you or not do you? You only know what she has told you and you readily believe everything she says..because she is so intelligent, has great taste, is funny and gorgeous. That Brian is a mistake. If she is so fantastic and gorgeous, and such a catch then why is she chatting and having cam sessions with strange men so soon after meeting them on-line?
Why isn't she busy growing into a young woman , dating guys more her age or even older, guys she knows in her area, guys she meets in real life?. How did she meet with these older "Dominant" men, and what made her so ready and willing to be sexually submissive with them? How long was she with them and did she have relationships with these men or just have sex with them?

Does she have any clue how dangerous that is?
What kind of webcam sessions are you having with this girl? If they are sexual in nature do you realize you are breaking the law and puttiing yourself at risk for possible criminal charges, prosecution and jail time? Not only that but you could be marked as a child molester for the rest of your life...whether the webcam play and sexual chat is consensual or not.
All it takes is for her parents to read her Yahoo or IM program archive and they can find out what is going on between you and their underage daughter. The can report you to the police and they will track your IP address and any other info they find out, and they can find you. Or her parents could listen in on one of your phone conversations, get your ph# aznd find your address just from that.

I am not trying to shoot the possibility of having the relationship of your life with this girl...but you need to use your common sense here to and tread very carefully. If you want to dominate her body, you need to dominate her mind first. You need to slow down and take the time to know her, her motives, her living conditions and relationship with her parents..ect, ect, before you make the decision to have sex with her.

You say she has far more experience in this than you do. You have no experience in it at all right? So that is not saying much is it? She has told you she has been with a few such older men..was that in real life face to face or on-line?
If you want to play around at trying out your Dominance on her fine, but avoid giving her tasks that include anything of a sexual nature. Stop playing with her sexually on-line and do not talk dirty with her. See if her head is all wrapped up in the sexual side of being submissive or not.

If she is serious about this then giving her tasks like writing long essays & you name the topic with a time limit to have them completed by or doing household chores or running a mile a day should not bother her a bit. See if she will obey you with everyday things and make her show you proof. Steer away from sexual things for now..try to get a feel of where her head is at. Then move on from there. That is my advice.

Go slow, no sex until you know each other, no minor sex (period), Adakgirl said perfectly....
 
A whirlwind of truth from Adakgirl, perhaps a bit heavy-handed at times, but all true nonetheless.

I will say this.

My guess is that your interest here is 100% sexual. As young men, we often feel pressured to deny this, but the important thing is that we ourselves remember our motive; no matter what we may purport to others.

Otherwise you are most definitely going to be caught in a situation where you have convinced yourself of how incredibly amazingly awesome this bitch is all in hopes of getting some wet pussy and now she's pregnant, thrown out of her house and telling you how glad she is that you love her so much. And all you wanted was a good fuck.

Of course, if it turns out this girl is actually easy to get along with on a long term basis and in person, trustworthy, places you as a priority in her life and has admirable moral standards then... Mazel Tov.


Additionally, dude, I have to ask. It wasn't too long ago that I was 23 and there was no way I would've been dating an 18 year old, let alone a 17 year old. You know what, what am I saying here. This is madness, you don't want a relationship with this girl, you just want to boink her and not get taken by a kid, which is ultimately what's going to happen.

I don't know what to tell you dude.
 
Adakgirl said:
In fact my opinion is that no 17 year old girl has had enough life experience to be THAT perfect. However I could be wrong.
Well, she is my ideal girl. Perfection is subjective in this context and obviously I don't mean it literally. I still can't get my head around the fact that someone like her exists. I know I come across as hyperbolic but you would never guess her age based on her appearance or maturity level so I don't think it's fair to judge on that alone.

Adakgirl said:
They tell men what they know men want to hear, they can be manipulative and they can easily lie to you, mislead you and sound like they are more emotionally and sexually mature than they really are.
I'm still getting to know her emotionally of course but I can confirm without a shadow of a doubt that she is sexually mature. :D I agree with your broader point though. She certainly has the capacity to be manipulative and the potential to drive me insane. She has given no indication she would do such a thing; I'm simply saying she has the intelligence and sex appeal to pull it off.

Adakgirl said:
I mean to say, you don't really know for sure if she is being truthful with you or not do you? You only know what she has told you and you readily believe everything she says..because she is so intelligent, has great taste, is funny and gorgeous. That Brian is a mistake.
I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to. I can't think of anything of consequence that she has told me which wasn't either self-evident or something that I haven't confirmed.

Adakgirl said:
If she is so fantastic and gorgeous, and such a catch then why is she chatting and having cam sessions with strange men so soon after meeting them on-line? Why isn't she busy growing into a young woman , dating guys more her age or even older, guys she knows in her area, guys she meets in real life?
Believe me, these were my first questions. She clearly, like all of us, has issues. She isn't simply modest, she is actually unaware that she is stunningly beautiful. So low self-esteem combined with extreme neuroticism would explain a lot of it. She has dated guys in her area. As far as I'm aware she doesn't have cam sessions with guys she just met. We really connected, found we had a ridiculous amount in common, spoke all night the first time. Not to sound like a conceited egomaniac but I think it's because she finds me so different too.

Adakgirl said:
How did she meet with these older "Dominant" men, and what made her so ready and willing to be sexually submissive with them? How long was she with them and did she have relationships with these men or just have sex with them?
I don't want to go into too many details here...I wouldn't call them relationships per se but they weren't one night stands. I can't possibly answer the second question yet: isn't there some web of complex psychological reasons anyone is naturally submissive?

Adakgirl said:
Does she have any clue how dangerous that is?
She gives out no personal identifying information and is plenty savvy when it comes to IT and security.
Adakgirl said:
What kind of webcam sessions are you having with this girl? If they are sexual in nature do you realize you are breaking the law and puttiing yourself at risk for possible criminal charges, prosecution and jail time? Not only that but you could be marked as a child molester for the rest of your life...whether the webcam play and sexual chat is consensual or not.
All it takes is for her parents to read her Yahoo or IM program archive and they can find out what is going on between you and their underage daughter. The can report you to the police and they will track your IP address and any other info they find out, and they can find you. Or her parents could listen in on one of your phone conversations, get your ph# aznd find your address just from that.
I'm aware of the risks involved. Thank you for making sure I do though.

Adakgirl said:
I am not trying to shoot the possibility of having the relationship of your life with this girl...but you need to use your common sense here to and tread very carefully. If you want to dominate her body, you need to dominate her mind first. You need to slow down and take the time to know her, her motives, her living conditions and relationship with her parents..ect, ect, before you make the decision to have sex with her...If you want to play around at trying out your Dominance on her fine, but avoid giving her tasks that include anything of a sexual nature. Stop playing with her sexually on-line and do not talk dirty with her. See if her head is all wrapped up in the sexual side of being submissive or not.
I agree. Easier said than done but this is my plan.

Adakgirl said:
You say she has far more experience in this than you do. You have no experience in it at all right? So that is not saying much is it? She has told you she has been with a few such older men..was that in real life face to face or on-line?
Not in itself, no. But judging from everything I've seen and heard and read which has emanated from her, I'd say she's quite experienced. In the flesh, yes.

Adakgirl said:
If she is serious about this then giving her tasks like writing long essays & you name the topic with a time limit to have them completed by or doing household chores or running a mile a day should not bother her a bit. See if she will obey you with everyday things and make her show you proof. Steer away from sexual things for now..try to get a feel of where her head is at. Then move on from there. That is my advice.
Thanks, Adakgirl! This could be a good starting point. :)
 
Marquis said:
My guess is that your interest here is 100% sexual. As young men, we often feel pressured to deny this, but the important thing is that we ourselves remember our motive; no matter what we may purport to others.
You can speak for 'young men everywhere' all you want but you'd be 100% wrong. This goes way beyond sex. She has a pretty face and an amazing body but her mind turns me on more. I don't feel pressure to do jackshit; it's the truth.

Marquis said:
Otherwise you are most definitely going to be caught in a situation where you have convinced yourself of how incredibly amazingly awesome this bitch is all in hopes of getting some wet pussy and now she's pregnant, thrown out of her house and telling you how glad she is that you love her so much. And all you wanted was a good fuck.
You need to get outside your own head and come to the realization that not everyone is as much of a prick as you are. She is not a "bitch" nor do I just want a good fuck.

Marquis said:
Additionally, dude, I have to ask. It wasn't too long ago that I was 23 and there was no way I would've been dating an 18 year old, let alone a 17 year old. You know what, what am I saying here. This is madness, you don't want a relationship with this girl, you just want to boink her and not get taken by a kid, which is ultimately what's going to happen.
Not exactly something I was planning and again, this is not your average high school girl. I would love a relationship with her more than anything. It remains to be seen whether I'll get taken but it's not gonna be because of the intentions you've projected onto me.
 
You can speak for 'young men everywhere' all you want but you'd be 100% wrong. This goes way beyond sex. She has a pretty face and an amazing body but her mind turns me on more. I don't feel pressure to do jackshit; it's the truth.


You need to get outside your own head and come to the realization that not everyone is as much of a prick as you are. She is not a "bitch" nor do I just want a good fuck.


Not exactly something I was planning and again, this is not your average high school girl. I would love a relationship with her more than anything. It remains to be seen whether I'll get taken but it's not gonna be because of the intentions you've projected onto me.

Then perhaps you should take Adakgirl's suggestion and not have sex with her on your first trip meeting her.

Unfortunately my friend, your situation is more than a little transparent here and your defensiveness speaks volumes. Ultimately though, you're going to do what you want to do and growing up is all about making mistakes and learning from them.

However, please understand that my intention is not to pick on or frustrate you, rather, as someone close to your own age I was hoping to put in ways you might relate to what this actually looks like from the outside looking in.

You started this thread to ask for advice on how to sexually dominate a 17 year old girl, you can't be too surprised about the reactions you're receiving.
 
Marquis said:
Unfortunately my friend, your situation is more than a little transparent here and your defensiveness speaks volumes. Ultimately though, you're going to do what you want to do and growing up is all about making mistakes and learning from them.
I can see you value your insight very highly but I'm not being defensive out of fear of being exposed by someone as brilliant as yourself. I can only assume you're implying that I am attempting to hide something from myself or others. I'm not trying to be anything but transparent. It's absurd for you to tell me what my genuine feelings and intentions are. Believe it or not, it's possible to desire someone with both your cock and your mind. And yes, even for the latter to take precedent.

Marquis said:
However, please understand that my intention is not to pick on or frustrate you, rather, as someone close to your own age I was hoping to put in ways you might relate to what this actually looks like from the outside looking in.
I appreciate the feedback wherever it comes from but that doesn't make it valid or objective. You see this through your own lens and it couldn't be more different than my own.

Marquis said:
You started this thread to ask for advice on how to sexually dominate a 17 year old girl, you can't be too surprised about the reactions you're receiving.
I don't know why you accused me of being surprised at the reactions I've been getting. Yours has been the only one that was completely unfounded.
 
I can see you value your insight very highly but I'm not being defensive out of fear of being exposed by someone as brilliant as yourself. I can only assume you're implying that I am attempting to hide something from myself or others. I'm not trying to be anything but transparent. It's absurd for you to tell me what my genuine feelings and intentions are. Believe it or not, it's possible to desire someone with both your cock and your mind. And yes, even for the latter to take precedent.

This is, of course, true. Usually when you're talking about teenage girls though, it's more cock than mind. My sub of 2 years is 24 and rarely does she say something that excites me as much as catching her coming out of the shower.

As you indicated however, it is possible that we are much different. Me being some sort of troglodyte and you being the enlightened heart-felt sex offender.

I don't know why you accused me of being surprised at the reactions I've been getting. Yours has been the only one that was completely unfounded.

Well, you have my apologies in that case. I shoot from the hip.

You seem like a smart kid, I hope that you stick around and keep us posted.
 
Please excuse the long post..I am restless tonight and my mind is working overtime...
<snip>

A whirlwind of truth from Adakgirl, perhaps a bit heavy-handed at times, but all true nonetheless.

I will say this.
<snip>


I know you both are trying to help but you both come off analyzing his relationship when all he wanted to know was how to dominate her.



You started this thread to ask for advice on how to sexually dominate a 17 year old girl, you can't be too surprised about the reactions you're receiving.

Actually, he clarified his intentions for this thread when he said:
I should have mentioned I'm more focused on behavior rather than material props. I mean she has a vibrator and handcuffs but neither of us have an interest at this point in anything more elaborate. But to give an example of what I'm referring to: I was reading about the Dom giving the sub certain tasks to perform during the day which intrigued me (I'm sure she's into this as well). Apparently something along these lines is common...

Which to me, reads more of asking how to dominate in a nonsexual way.
 
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And depending on where they live it could be perfectly legal for a 23yo to have sex with a 17yo.

Its about age of consent. Not whether she is a minor.
 
During our webcam 'sessions' I can hold my own but I'm anxious about the real thing. And from my understanding, the Master shouldn't have weak knees and chattering teeth. I know I sound like some virginal schoolboy but this girl has that effect on me!!! :eek:

In relationships I'm typically the dominant one but I've never really thought about it in a conscious or formal way. I'm having trouble forming my question to you all because I'm not sure what it is I need to know. I'll learn on my own of course but I'd like to have some idea of what she is likely to expect of me.

So if you can give any advice, however general or specific, on what I should be attempting to do I'd greatly appreciate it.
I was going to ask what types of things you're already doing with her in "webcam sessions," and build my suggestions for in-person interaction from there.

But given the tip from Marquis, below, and assuming that webcam interaction is something other than a dispassionate exchange of political ideas, family news, dinner recipes, or book reviews, I'll just suggest that you come back to talk about this after she turns 18.
 
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And depending on where they live it could be perfectly legal for a 23yo to have sex with a 17yo.

Its about age of consent. Not whether she is a minor.

No, it isn't.

And because I don't want to have to delete this thread, I'm going to ask everyone to please read the forum rules and conduct this conversation accordingly.
 
No, it isn't.

And because I don't want to have to delete this thread, I'm going to ask everyone to please read the forum rules and conduct this conversation accordingly.
*wanders off to search for rules*



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"Welcome to Lit’s BDSM Talk Forum, I hope you enjoy your time here and find it a place to come in good times and in bad. In trying to create that environment we have few rules, but those we do have we created in the interests of encouraging friendship, community, and a diversity of BDSM discussions. Part of creating that atmosphere is based on respecting others as individuals and not discriminating in any form (eg. race, age, religion, gender, sexuality etc.). As with the policy of literotica as a site, we also uphold the view that censorship is not an ideal, but also must stay within the legal boundaries for the forum to remain operational. If anyone has any questions as to the rules as posted below, please feel free to contact the moderator(s).

1. No spam / No promoting of other websites.
2. No personals ads (they go here BDSM Personals )
3. No posting of another's personal information
4. No posting of your own private email address
5. No personal threats
6. No posting of copyrighted images"



What I thought you might be referring to wasn't there. Marquis - is there a rule about not discussing or describing adult/minor sexual interaction?
 
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*wanders off to search for rules*



ETA -

"Welcome to Lit’s BDSM Talk Forum, I hope you enjoy your time here and find it a place to come in good times and in bad. In trying to create that environment we have few rules, but those we do have we created in the interests of encouraging friendship, community, and a diversity of BDSM discussions. Part of creating that atmosphere is based on respecting others as individuals and not discriminating in any form (eg. race, age, religion, gender, sexuality etc.). As with the policy of literotica as a site, we also uphold the view that censorship is not an ideal, but also must stay within the legal boundaries for the forum to remain operational. If anyone has any questions as to the rules as posted below, please feel free to contact the moderator(s).

1. No spam / No promoting of other websites.
2. No personals ads (they go here BDSM Personals )
3. No posting of another's personal information
4. No posting of your own private email address
5. No personal threats
6. No posting of copyrighted images"



What I thought you might be referring to wasn't there. Marquis - is there a rule about not discussing or describing adult/minor sexual interaction?


If you click Forum Rules at the bottom of your screen, you'll see the administrator rules. Number 2 would be the governing law in this situation, although I admit it is a bit ambiguous.

When I was teaching high school a few years back, I started a thread about some cute students that I had and the thread was removed with that rule given as why, from what I remember.

That said, I hope I'm not mixing my modly duties and my personal feelings here.
 
If you click Forum Rules at the bottom of your screen, you'll see the administrator rules. Number 2 would be the governing law in this situation, although I admit it is a bit ambiguous.

When I was teaching high school a few years back, I started a thread about some cute students that I had and the thread was removed with that rule given as why, from what I remember.

That said, I hope I'm not mixing my modly duties and my personal feelings here.
Oops. I'm pretty sure I've violated #3, multiple times.

Thanks for explaining. I'm gonna edit my question a few posts up.
 
Oops. I'm pretty sure I've violated #3, multiple times.

Thanks for explaining. I'm gonna edit my question a few posts up.

I think it would only be a violation if you were linking to a site that didn't hold the copyright.
 
I think it would only be a violation if you were linking to a site that didn't hold the copyright.
I'm pretty careful to link a source for articles, but photos are a different story.

This is a good example of what I'm referring to.
 
I'm pretty careful to link a source for articles, but photos are a different story.

This is a good example of what I'm referring to.

Off topic, sort of.
You just made me me very homesick.
More than I was already.
(Thinking of the cherry blossoms lately)

~LB

(who wishes she could have been one of those people in the photo)

And I have no idea what you guys were talking about. I just read up 2 or 3. Short attention span tonight, I think...
 
I was in DC the weekend before last, it was absolutely beautiful.

Incidentally, I bowled in the White House lanes. I've been meaning to drop that somehow.
 
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