Nude Day 2011 Contest Support Thread

[bashfullyshameless]

If you don't put it in the incest category, you shouldn't be setting off any incest category reader rage.

Mainly I'm afraid that incest readers reaching out of that category might feel horribly teased.

 

[LettersFromTatyana]

Mainly I'm afraid that incest readers reaching out of that category might feel horribly teased.

Do you set them up as being randomly naked? Or logically naked (nudists, nude beach, etc)?

If it's the latter, I don't think it will be a problem. I know I've run across at least one story here that included family nudity with no incest, and I don't seem to recall angry comments, if that's what you're worried about?

 

[oggbashan]

My, my, my... I have been reading here at Literotica for years, but only recently signed on and have started writing... However, after reading this thread, and the political, social and otherwise demeaning banter between writers I am not sure I would want to submit.

I thought this was about enjoying the writing. I am not against criticism, as it helps us all get better, but this has dampened my spirit about getting into this in any serious way. It appears that if you are good, or become good or become widely read, and have a great deal of joy in your writing, you are subject to a potential meatgrinder of abuse. (I realize I have parachuted in with an outsiders view before you blow me away with I must not know or understand)

Oh, by the way, my real reason for reading into this thread, was to understand, having never submitted on Literotica or in an contest, when it says nude, is that defined? ....Like, is naked with shoes nude?

You don't have to be good, or become good or become widely read, and have a great deal of joy in your writing to be subject to abuse. It is a feature of most internet sites where creative works are posted.

If you enter a themed Literotica contest, your story will be read. It will attract attention, some of it unwelcome, unfair and just nasty. It can also attract worthwhile criticism and helpful comments.

If you submit a story outside the contests, it could attract no attention at all and just sink without trace.

It depends what you want. If you want people to notice what you write, the contests are the best way to get that attention but you will need to develop a thick skin for some of the abuse.

Nude? If the readers think that your story isn't nude enough, they will penalise you with low votes and comments.

 

[sr71plt]

Mainly I'm afraid that incest readers reaching out of that category might feel horribly teased.

The good news is that I don't think the obnoxious incest readers reach out of that category.

 

[sr71plt]

If you submit a story outside the contests, it could attract no attention at all and just sink without trace.

Oh, that's not true. Most of the story life here is outside the contests. A preponderance of the most popular writers here don't enter the contests. The contests are pretty much a backwater for the story file readers.

 

[oggbashan]

Oh, that's not true. Most of the story life here is outside the contests. A preponderance of the most popular writers here don't enter the contests. The contests are pretty much a backwater for the story file readers.

I don't agree with your first sentence. My last few non-contest stories as Og and Jeanne have attracted virtually no attention and single figure votes. My contest stories get at least 25 votes.

Your next two sentences may be true, so may your third, but for someone thinking of submitting their first story, a contest entry will get their work far more attention than the short period on the first page of the new list.

 

[sr71plt]

I don't agree with your first sentence. My last few non-contest stories as Og and Jeanne have attracted virtually no attention and single figure votes. My contest stories get at least 25 votes.

Your next two sentences may be true, so may your third, but for someone thinking of submitting their first story, a contest entry will get their work far more attention than the short period on the first page of the new list.

I can certainly see where you don't agree with my first sentence, since that sentence just established that I didn't agree with one of the statements you made.

You're just giving your personal experience, though--which doesn't agree with the Web site statistics. Go to the favoritist list and count how many of the fifty most popular authors are putting stories in contests here. And then go to the three cuts at "most popular author" list in each of the categories in the recently revamped category home pages. Again compare these names to the names of contest writers.

I agree that new writers enter the contest to gain more readers--and that's a good thing.

But the reality of available statistics here quite clearly show that the statement that those not entering contests won't have their stories read is obviously false.

Many of the most popular writers on Literotica probably don't even know there are contests.

The added leg-up perqs of entering the contest can give you a boost in gathering readers initially--it isn't what's going to maintain a readership, though. And most of the most popular writers here are maintaining that popularity for their stories without the contests.

 

[TxRad]

Don't you just love the smell of split hairs in the afternoon?

 

[sr71plt]

Don't you just love the smell of split hairs in the afternoon?

This isn't an attack on the contests. It's pointing out that Ogg has grossly exaggerated the importance of them to a Lit. writer.

And you don't seem to be quibbling with the actual point I'm making.

The contests--and, indeed this forum--compose a very, very small corner of this story Web site. Swimming in the story file doesn't depend on either to any noticeable extent. And to counter a suggestion they do isn't splitting any hairs.

In fact, daring to be an individual on the forum greatly endangers one's story collection here. I'm not the only one who can attest to that.

Now, let's talk backbiting.

 

[oggbashan]

Don't you just love the smell of split hairs in the afternoon?

I'll split a few more. My statement that was considered incorrect was a response to a specific post by someone considering entering the contest. "You" was specific to that individual.

Even if "you" wasn't specific, I used the conditional "could". The response to a new story by an established author who has a fan base would be very different from that to a first story from an unknown.

Unless the story was in one of the high impact categories such as Incest or Loving Wives, the response to a first story is likely to be minimal. A first story submitted for a themed contest is featured for weeks instead of the few hours of the first page of New Stories.

 

[sr71plt]

Unless the story was in one of the high impact categories such as Incest or Loving Wives, the response to a first story is likely to be minimal.

That's just supposition, as well. That has been the result of the story file of one alt story lister I have here. Another one, though, zoomed into the stratosphere on both rating and views from the first posting--and everything I've posted to that account has gone lots of views/high hot. And no, it doesn't post in the incest or Loving Wives categories.

I'd say the reality has too many variables at play to make convenient suppositions.

Yes, the contests are a very good "getting into it" tool for newly arrived writers. That, in itself, no matter how much you hype it, isn't enough steam to run on, however, for anyone who isn't willing to be fooled that gathering votes and comments on a "you scratch my back and I'll scratch your back" means much of anything in the greater Lit. story file.

 

[Guest]

[size=+2]Sorry but here's another one from LITEROTICA’S #1 retard. This particular piece of refuse was deposited on the A.I.R. CONTEST thread. Unfortunately there’s more to come…[/size]

[size=+2]Jerome[/size]
teenager … champion of “favorite” writers
dixie’s nemesis
retard regurgitator

POST # 371 ON THE A.I.R. THREAD :

DON'T BE FOOLED.


http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg226/dixonclee/fakecontest.jpg

 

[Guest]

[size=+2]Sorry but here's another one from LITEROTICA’S #1 retard. This particular piece of refuse was deposited on the A.I.R. CONTEST thread. Unfortunately there’s more to come…[/size]

[size=+2]Jerome[/size]
teenager … champion of “favorite” writers
dixie’s nemesis
retard regurgitator

POST # 372 ON THE A.I.R. THREAD :

DON'T BE FOOLED.


http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg226/dixonclee/fakecontest.jpg

 

[Guest]

[size=+2]Sorry but here's another one from LITEROTICA’S #1 retard. This particular piece of refuse was deposited on the A.I.R. CONTEST thread. Unfortunately there’s more to come…[/size]

[size=+2]Jerome[/size]
teenager … champion of “favorite” writers
dixie’s nemesis
retard regurgitator

POST # 373 ON THE A.I.R. THREAD :

DON'T BE FOOLED.


http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg226/dixonclee/fakecontest.jpg

 

[Darkniciad]

On the off chance you don't know scouries ( and his alt, grand_high_poobah ) the best thing you can do to enhance your Literotica experience is to put him and his myriad of unoriginal alts on ignore.

He is not -- in any way, shape, or form -- associated with the management of Literotica in any way.

He is not a moderator, despite impersonating one on a regular basis.

He is not involved in the management or decision making process of any Literotica contest, despite claims that he is responsible for the survivor contest.

Nobody receives royalties for stories posted to Lit, despite his claims to live a jet-setter life on the back of the "checks" for "sales" of his uninspired, infrequent, and poorly edited contributions to the story file.

There is no such thing as "A.I.R." except in his mind. The so-called "contests" run under this fictitious banner steal stories from the real contests and the story file in general, for the sole purpose of associating his name with authors who have real fanbases and talent, while mysteriously winning an award himself each and every time

Here endeth the Public Service Announcement. We now return you to the thread, already in progress. If you've taken my advice, the thread in progress is now far cleaner, and will remain so into the future

 

[TxRad]

On the off chance you don't know scouries ( and his alt, grand_high_poobah ) the best thing you can do to enhance your Literotica experience is to put him and his myriad of unoriginal alts on ignore.

He is not -- in any way, shape, or form -- associated with the management of Literotica in any way.

He is not a moderator, despite impersonating one on a regular basis.

He is not involved in the management or decision making process of any Literotica contest, despite claims that he is responsible for the survivor contest.

Nobody receives royalties for stories posted to Lit, despite his claims to live a jet-setter life on the back of the "checks" for "sales" of his uninspired, infrequent, and poorly edited contributions to the story file.

There is no such thing as "A.I.R." except in his mind. The so-called "contests" run under this fictitious banner steal stories from the real contests and the story file in general, for the sole purpose of associating his name with authors who have real fanbases and talent, while mysteriously winning an award himself each and every time

Here endeth the Public Service Announcement. We now return you to the thread, already in progress. If you've taken my advice, the thread in progress is now far cleaner, and will remain so into the future

I couldn't have said it better. Thanks.

 

[sr71plt]

Except that fifth paragraph, as written, seems to confirm his claim to be receiving royalties. I think there's a lost negative missing from there somewhere--because nobody here receives royalties for their stories from Literotica.

 

[Darkniciad]

Except that fifth paragraph, as written, seems to confirm his claim to be receiving royalties. I think there's a lost negative missing from there somewhere--because nobody here receives royalties for their stories from Literotica.

Duly noted and edited. I think I tried to get too complicated *laugh*

This is why I have my stuff edited

 

[scouries]

This is why I have my stuff edited…

Your stories are edited??? By someone with English as their mother tongue???

Seeing ace is so sharp on the ‘post’ editing front these days perhaps he could volunteer his services on the ‘story’ front. Just think of the benefits for all LITEROTICA readers if he took over the editing of all 32 little ralphie NUDE DAY entries.

OK, that does sound like a lot of work but you have to remember that, being SURVIVOR stories as well as NUDE DAY stories, they only average 803 words – or about 25,000 words for the lot. And let’s face it – ace obviously has a lot of free time on his hands…

I think it could be a win-win proposition...​

[size=+2]james r scouries esq.[/size]
Multiple A.I.R. AWARD winner, MILLION SELLER,
Author of the MOST COMMENTED on
and the MOST VOTED on story on LITEROTICA

 

[elfin_odalisque]

http://www.ariva.de/ohhhh_a265655
ralphieJust because I write a lot of stories doesn't mean they are not quality pieces…I'm proud of everything I write. I don't post it, unless it's the best that I can do.

Yet, I don't post a story, until and unless it's done …Just because a writer writes one or ten stories doesn't always make a difference in quality. It's the writer and not the number of stories that makes for quality.

Absolute bullshit!!!!!

Quite frankly ralphie you’re an embarrassment.

And no I’m not going to get into a long detailed analysis of your work or compare it to other authors. Nor is its quality vis-à-vis other authors on the site the point. The point is that you’re dumping half finished garbage on our unsuspecting readers when you could do so much better.

You’re lowering the quality of the contest (and this of course reflects on all contest authors) and chasing potential readers away by flooding the contest with your trash.

You claim above that it’s “the best I can do.” It’s not and you know it’s not. You and your predecessor nom de plume andtheend have dumped these un-thought out, unplanned, unedited, unplotted stories on us for 18 months, all the while claiming it was the best you could do.

Your output is childlike - it’s time you grew up my boy! If you want your work ever to be taken seriously you’ll have to take it seriously first. Simply getting up every morning and typing merrily away for four or five hours without any thought isn’t writing my friend – a monkey can do that.

You’re a joke! The problem for the rest of us is that the laughter (and pity) that your work evokes reflects on all of us. To have one of our contest entries buried between three or four of yours is the kiss of death. After reading one of your stories, a story you didn’t even reread after your flurry of typing ceased (let alone edited), how likely is it that your poor battered reader will turn to another contest entry?

And that of course is one of the reasons that the greats, the LITEROTICA FAVORITES, so seldom participate in these contests.

It's up to you to decide - remain the court jester, the fool, or actually set out on the path to becomming a better author. I for one believe you could be so much better.​

[size=+2]james r scouries esq.[/size]
Multiple A.I.R. AWARD winner, MILLION SELLER,
Author of the MOST COMMENTED on
and the MOST VOTED on story on LITEROTICA

If you replaced 'ralphie' with 'scouries' and added 5 years in the above text, you'd finally understand the expression 'pots calling the kettle black'.

 

[LunaEroticaMystica]

Edits and revision almost done. I'm so anxious to post this story and nervous all at the same time. It's 'Romance' through and through and is one of my first non-fantasy/non-non-human (with exception of Valentine's, erotic coupling) in awhile. I'll be curious to see how it is received.

How's everyone else coming along?

 

[elfin_odalisque]

The good news is that I don't think the obnoxious incest readers reach out of that category.

Again, you can't resist insulting a large section of Lit readers - as is your arrogant style.

Incest may not be your bag but, with the Lit-imposed constraints, it is acceptable and your insulting comment again shows you up as a pointy- headed retrogade. Should you be here?

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

Again, you can't resist insulting a large section of Lit readers - as is your arrogant style.

Incest may not be your bag but, with the Lit-imposed constraints, it is acceptable and your insulting comment again shows you up as a pointy- headed retrogade. Should you be here?

Just as you cannot refrain from insulting me, when I don't bother you, you arrogant asshole.

...and the funny part is you're not even a woman. You're a man. It's obvious from the tone of your writing, exactly who you are...you dope.

"Ah, I suddenly feel cleansed. Thanks."

 

[sr71plt]

For those who aren't aware (a vacation in the antarctic maybe?), Elfin is on a crazy hate campaign to try to force me off the board because I show her up as a fraud story critiquer too often.

Why she's doing it on this thread is beyond me--but why she's a screwball at all is beyond me as well.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

For those who aren't aware (a vacation in the antarctic maybe?), Elfin is on a crazy hate campaign to try to force me off the board because I show her up as a fraud story critiquer too often.

Why she's doing it on this thread is beyond me--but why she's a screwball at all is beyond me as well.

Well, for once I agree with you.

If you are anything, you are a talented editor and story critiquer.

Oh, and you write pretty good, too (lol).