Not just there

Gilly Bean

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I live in a college town. My husband works for the college, and many of my friends attend it.

In the last few years, we hve had a large in flux of middle eastern students.

Yesterday, when the first reports came in, a single class sat in stunned silence.

One student, who was a middle easterner (from what country, I do not know, they did not say), jumped up, out of his seat, and started shouting with glee.

He was jumping up and down. Much like in the video from West Bank. He was happy. He kept saying it was about time.

Later, in a dorm that houses most of the middle easterners from CMU, the police had to be called in, because fights were starting.

The students in those dorms were celebrating as well.


When I heard about it a little bit ago, I was enraged. These students came here, choosing America, to learn. To be nurtured, and to grow. Some, if not most, were likely raised here. Many have probably never stepped foot in thier 'home' country.

And they cheered at the loss of the country they wish to call thier own.

Am I wrong in being angry at people who live in my town? Who go to the same stores to shop. Who go to the same reasturants to eat?


I am not prejudice. I never have been. But that made me sick.

As sick as I was to hear that people of eastern ethinticity were being attacked for no reason.

The one thing that keeps coming to mind, that I would want to have said to those people celebrating right here in my town, was that this was thier country too. That this is thier town, thier state, thier laws, thier people.
 
OMG

I have not heard of any of that happening here. We have lots of Arab students here but so far nothing like that has happend. The international center is right by my apartment and at least one cop has been there ever since it happend. Tuesday there were 6 cop cars there according to my roomate.

I don't know what I would do if i saw someone doing that. I work with alot of Arab and some Indian people. A few are from Pakistan and a few are from Saudi Arabia. Some i don't know where they are from. All of them have just looked so sad. The only way i could describe is that they look disgusted to be who they are. Disgusted to be Arabic or Muslim.
 
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Azwed said:
All of them have just looked so sad. The only way i could describe is that they look disgusted to be who they are. Disgusted to be Arabic or Muslim.

I haven't heard of anyone in my area celebrating, either.

I can understand the looks of sadness. We are ALL sad. But I hope they really don't feel disgusted. They didn't do anything wrong. A witch hunt by Americans against anyone who "looks" Arab would be tragic. I pray we are above that.
 
That is just sickening, and I'm surprised none of them were killed for it. I was just up there last week, and I didn't really see that many Middle Eastern people, yet I don't normally distingush (sp)people by race. Just the thought of that makes my stomach turn.....
 
A Muslim man at Dunkin' Doughnuts gave me a free doughnut with my coffee. That won't make anyone come back to life, but it was a small nice thing.

My first thought when I saw those tapes of the people dancing in the streets, was that it was staged propaganda. It still smacks of it to me. I'm surprised that student in Gilly's class wasn't jumped on the spot.
 
Gilly Bean said:
Later, in a dorm that houses most of the middle easterners from CMU, the police had to be called in, because fights were starting.

The students in those dorms were celebrating as well.
But Gilly, were the fights because some of the students were angry about the bombing, and were fighting with the celebrants?
 
Someone called the President of our University yesterday, and told him that she didn't like the way our students dress, and that he should change that, and that she was happy that america had been attacked.

He hung up.

He told the attendance at the chapel that night about that call, and there was not a dry eye in the house.

Why do these people hate America? They should know better.
 
There have been reports here about Somali workers at a local factory here celebrating after the news came through that the WTC was attacked. My uncle works in the factory and I just talked about that to him.... He couldn't believe it when they got off the production line to go yell and scream about how it was "About time someone got us", its horrible to believe that actually happens.
 
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shadowsource said:
But Gilly, were the fights because some of the students were angry about the bombing, and were fighting with the celebrants?


The studentes were outraged over the people who were celebrating, and were fighting with them. That isn't a good attitude either, but I can damn well understand why they wanted to fight a peson who was jumping up and down over something that happened to this country.


We can all get angry at the tapes we see of West bank, but those are not here. It isn't something we can react to in person. This was.
 
That is all just sickening.
If they are that much against the country they are living in they should get the fuck out!
They have people keeping their children out of schools in Canada because they fear some sort of retaliation.
I have not heard of this celebrating happening here but if it did they would suffer the same beating they should be getting in the States.
 
I think the situation cited in the first post is extremely sad, but I wonder that people are surprised by it. There could be several factors contributing to it:

1. We do have freedom of speech here, and those students of Middle Eastern extraction would simply tell you they are excercising that right.

2. It has become "politically correct" to support Arab causes and oppose Israel, so these students may have thought their fellow students would follow that "politically correct" agenda.

3. There are many, many citizens of the United States who are of Middle East extraction that not only support terrorist activities, but donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to various terrorist organizations.

Considering all this, it certainly is not surprising that there would be some among us who would be celebrating.

As I said: sad, very sad, but not surprising.
 
thumbs2_ca said:
That is all just sickening.
If they are that much against the country they are living in they should get the fuck out!
They have people keeping their children out of schools in Canada because they fear some sort of retaliation.
I have not heard of this celebrating happening here but if it did they would suffer the same beating they should be getting in the States.


I couldn't agree more.
 
I belive in "freedom of speech", but I also belive in "fight for your country", and that's what I feel I would do in the event of a person cheering over the deaths of thousands of Americans.
 
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