No lives have been "Saved."

[SgtSpiderMan]

I don't see such.

It's a sticky at the top of the forum.

 

[jaF0]

In the post Pvt. Dunderhead ... in the post.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

In the post Pvt. Dunderhead ... in the post.

Go back & read the forum guidelines.

 

[Klinkster]

In the post Pvt. Dunderhead ... in the post.

Dunderhead?

He's not that smart.

 

[jaF0]

I'm stooooopid..

Your signature proves that.

 

[Saint_Ann]

For what? Speaking the truth?

He's just butthurt over his verabad alt being banned.

 

[bellisarius]

Reported? For what? Doing nothing more than many here have done in wishing this Wuhan Flu on others. Hell, and I wasn't even talking about anything that actually exists and/or is a threat to anyone.

Sensitive little bed wetters.

 

[thehaircutgirl]

Sensitive little bed wetters.

don't get your cult leader, trump, all excited.

 

[Adre]

Karma, do your work.

 

[Klinkster]

Karma, do your work.

^^^^^^ Speaking of bedwetters.....^^^^^^

 

[Lancecastor19]

Reported? For what? Doing nothing more than many here have done in wishing this Wuhan Flu on others. Hell, and I wasn't even talking about anything that actually exists and/or is a threat to anyone.

Sensitive little bed wetters.

The USA needs Don Cherry.

 

[Hugh_Essay]

As males go you're a bit of a shrew.

Take a deep breath. Dial it down a notch.

Snitching is queerbait's tactic.

 

[Lancecastor19]

Is Snitch the secret word today like on Pee Wee’s Playhouse?

 

[LupusDei]

Not a single life has been "Saved" by any shutdown or any other extreme, power grabbing, edict by any politician. Deaths have been temporarily postponed, but no lives saved.

The "pandemic" of '57-'58 killed 116,000 US citizens. Today that would have to translate into 260,000 based on population growth and factoring in the illegal cockroach population. Nobody shut the economy down, no governor ordered how people should conduct their lives. No pansy ass bed wetters panic buying shit they didn't need. The schools didn't close, nor did the churches.

Why oh why can't some lab somewhere come up with a virus that kills power hungry politicians and their bed wetting followers?

Oh. Lol.

You guys talk like you all haven't seen and played with simple simulations like this
https://corona.katapult-magazin.de/

So, do it again. Now.

On the right hand part you can adjust the number of mobile dots, even in time of the simulation, so you can clearly see what potential problem a premature "opening up" can be. It's purely random, so run it a dozen times for different outcomes each time. With fever than 20 mobile dots there's even a good chance the disease will die out early.

Sure, it's very simplistic, and real world is way more complex, for both better and worse. But this stuff is really as easy as 2+2, quarantines save lives and so do social distancing.

 

[Conager]

Oh. Lol.

You guys talk like you all haven't seen and played with simple simulations like this
https://corona.katapult-magazin.de/

So, do it again. Now.

On the right hand part you can adjust the number of mobile dots, even in time of the simulation, so you can clearly see what potential problem a premature "opening up" can be. It's purely random, so run it a dozen times for different outcomes each time. With fever than 20 mobile dots there's even a good chance the disease will die out early.

Sure, it's very simplistic, and real world is way more complex, for both better and worse. But this stuff is really as easy as 2+2, quarantines save lives and so do social distancing.

No they don't.

The virus doesn't go away just because you hide from it for a while.

 

[jaF0]

Simulations, models and moving dots are hocus pocus, not proof.


I challenge anyone PROVE that a person staying home would have died if they didn't.

 

[thehaircutgirl]

No they don't.

The virus doesn't go away just because you hide from it for a while.

yes they do.

and it does go away because people are not spreading it (as much).

 

[Saint_Ann]

yes they do.

and it does go away because people are not spreading it (as much).

You mean like smallpox. Oh, wait, that went away because of a vaccine.

 

[LupusDei]

Simulations, models and moving dots are hocus pocus, not proof.


I challenge anyone PROVE that a person staying home would have died if they didn't.

Did you play with the toy I give you? Do it. It's as honest random toy as it can be, and illustrate the situation well.

 

[thehaircutgirl]

You mean like smallpox. Oh, wait, that went away because of a vaccine.

the vaccine for covid is over a year out. 60,000 deaths per month x 11 months.

 

[Saint_Ann]

the vaccine for covid is over a year out. 60,000 deaths per month x 11 months.

I guess you missed the point.

 

[RobDownSouth]

yes they do.

and it does go away because people are not spreading it (as much).

Conager doesn't grok contagion?
How sad.

 

[Conager]

Simulations, models and moving dots are hocus pocus, not proof.


I challenge anyone PROVE that a person staying home would have died if they didn't.

Regardless, they eventually have to leave the house, interact with others who have been interacting.

This concept could have been enacted for every disease anciently and requires zero tech to accomplish. It wasn't used because it doesn't work.

Before there were vaccines, small amounts of live cultures were deliberately pricked into the skin of healthy people to let them develop resistance to the disease. This was known before antibodies were ever discovered.

There will be another wave of the virus. No one that has been hiding has any protection from it. There is no difference between being exposed to the first way of the second wave are any subsequent wave at some point you are going to be exposed. That's how epidemics work.

Putting off the inevitable accomplishes nothing other than saving hospital bed space by spreading out the dates of infections to reduce spikes in demand. Hospitals are empty.

 

[thehaircutgirl]

I guess you missed the point.

your "point" makes a bowling ball jealous.

 

[Conager]

the vaccine for covid is over a year out. 60,000 deaths per month x 11 months.

It isn't arithmetic. It's a contagion. All contagions follow Farr's Law. The most immunocompromised succumb first. It's ridiculous to extrapolate the way you are doing it. It becomes increasingly difficult for the virus to find vectors. Eventually every virus runs out of hosts.

No one is projecting even half that in a year, and that assumes better therapies are not developed.