Nba 2014

[SgtSpiderMan]

Cavs shouldnt have beat Warriors THIS year....who you kidding? But look for them, injury aside, to do it again. Frankly, Im not completely sure how it will work out for the Warriors....now they have 4 guys that like to shoot...

Id say, overrated. He was great on a bad team for years....Cav's should have kept Wiggins

They shouldn't have? They did beat them, the Cavs were a better team this year.

The Cavs have made the finals 2 years in a row, won a championship and will likely be back in the finals in 2017, there's no cause to 2nd guess their personnel moves.

 

[toubab]

Cavs shouldnt have beat Warriors THIS year....who you kidding? But look for them, injury aside, to do it again. Frankly, Im not completely sure how it will work out for the Warriors....now they have 4 guys that like to shoot...

The Cavs won game seven on the road, and you say they weren't the better team?

 

[toubab]

Id say, overrated. He was great on a bad team for years....Cav's should have kept Wiggins

Like I said, he's rich and has a ring. I'd say he's doing okay.

 

[toubab]

Dwyane Wade is signing with Chicago, and the Bulls are making room for him by trading Mike Dunleavy to Cleveland. Supposedly LeBron has always wanted to play with Dunleavy.

 

[GimpyIntellect]

Agree. I would have no problem with KD signing the 1+1 deal, staying in OKC one more year and then if they don't win it, moving on if that is what he wants to do. Read Royce Young's article in ESPN.com posted yesterday - it's excellent!

Wade isn't going to Clev just because of the money issue. He wants a 3 year deal and so far most of these suitors are not willing to do that full in. Clearly there is divorce in the air this year with him and Miami much more than in the past. Sounds like he is meeting with teams next day or so. Wild NBA off season!

Yeah, I read the Royce Young article the other day. It was fantastic.

Are you from Oklahoma? Think they're going to move Westbrook? Seems like they have no choice.

The problem is it seems to be the way most teams win now. Boston did is a few years ago with luring Durant to play by trading for Ray Allen to go along with Paul Pierce. Miami did it by bringing Lebron...

Then you have Cleveland that had a crap load of number one picks because they sucked, but they sucked at drafting so they bring in Love/Lebron and go from laughing stock to champs

And how many people ran to LA to play with Kobe?

In Boston its frustrating because Danny Ainge is an idiot when it comes to building a team and he brags about all these picks he has accumulated that no one wants.

Take away the move for Garnett and Allen, the second biggest thing he did was trade Kendrick Perkins and replace him a Shaq when he was all but done. That and hold onto Rondo when people were interested and then trade him when everyone knew he was an over rated asshole. For some reason the allegedly 'tough' Boston media acts like Ainge is a genius, but the fan base is pissed.

Right now the only way to win is get one of these divas and let them tell you who they want to play with.

Name one decent free agent that went to play with Kobe. Do it. Go.

Id say, overrated. He was great on a bad team for years....Cav's should have kept Wiggins

I agree with you, definitely overrated. He doesn't play a lick of defense. And he's a stat stuffer on a bad team.

Dwyane Wade is signing with Chicago, and the Bulls are making room for him by trading Mike Dunleavy to Cleveland. Supposedly LeBron has always wanted to play with Dunleavy.

Hard to believe this actually happened.

You know there is going to be a "30 for 30" one day where Wade talks about leaving Miami, and saying what a horrible decision that was looking back on it.

 

[toubab]

I disagree that Love doesn't play defense. I've watched him closely the last two years and he plays good team defense, and is an excellent defensive rebounder. One on one defense is not his strong suit, but he's no liability on defense overall. His +/- stats prove that. In game seven of the finals, for example, the Cavs outscored the Warriors by nineteen points while he was on the floor, and the Warriors outscored the Cavs by fifteen points while he was on the bench.

 

[GimpyIntellect]

I disagree that Love doesn't play defense. I've watched him closely the last two years and he plays good team defense, and is an excellent defensive rebounder. One on one defense is not his strong suit, but he's no liability on defense overall. His +/- stats prove that. In game seven of the finals, for example, the Cavs outscored the Warriors by nineteen points while he was on the floor, and the Warriors outscored the Cavs by fifteen points while he was on the bench.

If they could do that trade over, they would definitely keep Wiggins.

I just had a weird thought of all the Lebron boys joining Chicago next year. Lebron can be a free agent, Chris Paul will be a free agent, and I'm sure New York would move Carmelo and his huge contract.

This could be the destination for the Banana Boat Boys!

 

[toubab]

If they could do that trade over, they would definitely keep Wiggins.

I just had a weird thought of all the Lebron boys joining Chicago next year. Lebron can be a free agent, Chris Paul will be a free agent, and I'm sure New York would move Carmelo and his huge contract.

This could be the destination for the Banana Boat Boys!

If the Cavs had cap space for it they would have signed Wade. They are lucky they could afford Dunleavy.

 

[GimpyIntellect]

If the Cavs had cap space for it they would have signed Wade. They are lucky they could afford Dunleavy.

I'm shocked Wade left. I can understand him not being respected, it's hard to believe he's never been the highest-paid player on Miami. With that said, I know he didn't want to leave, and to uproot your family just for a few more dollars - man, it's a tough call. I'm sure Pat Riley is happy tonight though. He is pretty cutthroat when it comes to business.

 

[toubab]

I'm shocked Wade left. I can understand him not being respected, it's hard to believe he's never been the highest-paid player on Miami. With that said, I know he didn't want to leave, and to uproot your family just for a few more dollars - man, it's a tough call. I'm sure Pat Riley is happy tonight though. He is pretty cutthroat when it comes to business.

I'm not surprised Wade left. Riley is no sentimentalist.

 

[GimpyIntellect]

I'm not surprised Wade left. Riley is no sentimentalist.

I wish Mitch Kupchak and Jeannie Buss were the same way. Lakers fans had to suffer because of sentimentality.

Paying for past performance is never a good idea.

 

[Beco]

I wish Mitch Kupchak and Jeannie Buss were the same way. Lakers fans had to suffer because of sentimentality.

Paying for past performance is never a good idea.

Heard on the radio, if Jim Buss were on the job market, would anyone hire him to be their GM?

Answer is NO! Im guessing he took power away from Cup-Check, but lets face it, if you have a team in your city, and you have bad ownership, you ain't gonna win....players or no players....bad ownership wins everytime.

sad to say and I know this firsthand

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

Was SHOCKED to read they sign-&-traded "Delly", & just now read they have no plans to send "Wild Thing" the ring he deserved if either team won the Finals!

 

[toubab]

Was SHOCKED to read they sign-&-traded "Delly", & just now read they have no plans to send "Wild Thing" the ring he deserved if either team won the Finals!

No plans to give Varejao a ring? Even if he asks for one?

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

No plans to give Varejao a ring? Even if he asks for one?

Story I read said not unless he asks for it, which writer said they understand why he might not want to.

As someone who went to Cavs games for years before & during first Lebron time here, always preferred AV, & I say he earned it, they should be forced to give him one by time rest of team gets them, or forced to give up money/draft picks/something.

 

[GimpyIntellect]

Heard on the radio, if Jim Buss were on the job market, would anyone hire him to be their GM?

Answer is NO! Im guessing he took power away from Cup-Check, but lets face it, if you have a team in your city, and you have bad ownership, you ain't gonna win....players or no players....bad ownership wins everytime.

sad to say and I know this firsthand

I'd say you're right for the most part, but didn't a lot of people dislike Dan Gilbert?

I sure miss Jerry Buss.

 

[Beco]

I'd say you're right for the most part, but didn't a lot of people dislike Dan Gilbert?

I sure miss Jerry Buss.

Dan Gilbert? Probably not and he did act childish when LeBron left, that wasnt becoming. But Gilbert is over the Luxury Tax, and won a championship because of it, that aint bad ownership....

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

But Gilbert is over the Luxury Tax, and won a championship because of it, that aint bad ownership....

Being over Lux tax for no good reason is bad, & winning a Championship in a team sport with a star/egomaniacal ballhog, after which you hold onto ring one player deserves, & almost immediately get rid of a great player? That is Webster's defining bad ownership.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Being over Lux tax for no good reason is bad, & winning a Championship in a team sport with a star/egomaniacal ballhog, after which you hold onto ring one player deserves, & almost immediately get rid of a great player? That is Webster's defining bad ownership.

They won the championship, that's the whole definition of good ownership.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

They won the championship, that's the whole definition of good ownership.

Won is different than earning... Not to mention also doesn't factor in opponents being bad or having bad night, so win doesn't mean any player on the team (let alone whole team) was good in given game.... Not to mention "Best Of", so could be bad for even 3 of 7...

Has little to do with coaching (none when Lebron is on floor/team), & even less with ownership.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Won is different than earning... Not to mention also doesn't factor in opponents being bad or having bad night, so win doesn't mean any player on the team (let alone whole team) was good in given game.... Not to mention "Best Of", so could be bad for even 3 of 7...

Has little to do with coaching (none when Lebron is on floor/team), & even less with ownership.

If they won it, they earned it.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

If they won it, they earned it.

Opinion, certainly not fact.

Warriors lost enough games or Cavs won enough, or mix of 2.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Opinion, certainly not fact.

Warriors lost enough games or Cavs won enough, or mix of 2.

It's certainly a fact. If you win the championship you've earned the right to say you had the best season and were the best team. The Warriors lost fewer games than anyone else in the league, so they certainly didn't lose enough.

 

[Beco]

Being over Lux tax for no good reason is bad, & winning a Championship in a team sport with a star/egomaniacal ballhog, after which you hold onto ring one player deserves, & almost immediately get rid of a great player? That is Webster's defining bad ownership.

We have an owner in DC that WON'T do that...many owners in the NBA don't do that...Gilbert did, to accommodate LeBron and to keep Love and Thompson, who at times isn’t worth his money. The owner did his part to get a championship, to me, that’s "Good" ownership.

 

[Beco]

Won is different than earning... Not to mention also doesn't factor in opponents being bad or having bad night, so win doesn't mean any player on the team (let alone whole team) was good in given game.... Not to mention "Best Of", so could be bad for even 3 of 7...

Has little to do with coaching (none when Lebron is on floor/team), & even less with ownership.

Not sure I understand what you are trying to say....

Cleveland earned it, they stayed in it, even down 3-1 and with a little help from the NBA front office, they came out on top.

Now, who is going to challenge them? By the way, with Durant going to Golden State it just takes away one more team to challenge GS, so now the NBA is missing one good team, while it has about 25 bad teams, or average teams.