Mary Lou Retton, Libertarian Grifter

[coati]

No, it's your blatant ridiculousness and need for reason to post an asshole comment to everything I say.

By the way, either you don't work, which makes you a whiny welfare Bitch, or you arew embarrassed about what you do. I retired as a career firefighter/EMT at 54 and that's too young to sit while my wife is still working. That's why I work at Lowe's. Not that explaining that will make a bit of a difference to a jag off like you.

Wow, that's a lot of info.

Has Lowes set out their Christmas merchandise yet?

 

[TrailerHitch]

According to TrailerHitch, her being on a ventilator means that she's circling the drain. So now the topic is who will pay the hospital bill.

Nice stretch. My comment was 100% about covid, not pneumonia.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The woman is gravely ill, and this is what you post?

Let me return the favor, please don't burden our health care system when all your recreational Opioid popping burns out your stomach and liver and leaves you on a machine.

Until that happens, kindly go fuck yourself. Someone has to do it.

The ignore button is your friend. No one is forcing you to read what I write. Think of your blood pressure when making your decision. I stand by everything I wrote. Deal with it...or don't. I really don't care what you think.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Of course they would be ventilated and of course 50 to 97% died anyways. I never said don't ventilate them. But you act as if it is a miracle cure and it isn't by a long stretch. Between 3% and 50% survived. Horrible odds any day but better than nothing when nothing was all they had otherwise.

Quite a pivot from yesterday's position "Ventilators = Death!".

I wonder what caused your 180 degree spin?

 

[Comshaw]

Of course they would be ventilated and of course 50 to 97% died anyways. I never said don't ventilate them. But you act as if it is a miracle cure and it isn't by a long stretch. Between 3% and 50% survived. Horrible odds any day but better than nothing when nothing was all they had otherwise.

It's interesting that you accuse others of projecting, then do EXACTLY that. I never claimed, insinuated, or insisted it was a miracle cure. It was horrible odds, but as noted by several here IT WAS A LAST DITCH ATTEMPT to save some of those people. Actually, if it saved up to 50% of those AS a last-ditch attempt, then it was, in a sense a miracle cure.

As an aside, I have a real problem with the 50 to 97% died thing. That is a VERY wide disparity and reveals there is little to no accurate data behind those numbers, no matter who put them together. I would go so far as to say it was a WAG (wild ass guess) by somebody.

Comshaw

 

[RobDownSouth]

It's interesting that you accuse others of projecting, then do EXACTLY that. I never claimed, insinuated, or insisted it was a miracle cure. It was horrible odds, but as noted by several here IT WAS A LAST DITCH ATTEMPT to save some of those people. Actually, if it saved up to 50% of those AS a last-ditch attempt, then it was, in a sense a miracle cure.

As an aside, I have a real problem with the 50 to 97% died thing. That is a VERY wide disparity and reveals there is little to no accurate data behind those numbers, no matter who put them together. I would go so far as to say it was a WAG (wild ass guess) by somebody.

Comshaw

I can't access the later studies (paywall) but the Washington Post reported an 88% mortality rate on ventilators in the pre-vaccine portion of the pandemic. Lots of Co-morbidities for these folks though (obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure....in other words, a phalanx of Trailer Hitches). LINK

 

[TrailerHitch]

I can't access the later studies (paywall) but the Washington Post reported an 88% mortality rate on ventilators in the pre-vaccine portion of the pandemic. Lots of Co-morbidities for these folks though (obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure....in other words, a phalanx of Trailer Hitches). LINK

I love the co-morbidities thing...I'm 64, diabetic, on high blood pressure meds. I had covid twice, both mild cases, no lasting effects at all. Why? Statistically I should have been on my death bed twice. It was no more than similar to a sinus infection and a bad cough for me, both times. Why? I never got the so called "vaccine." And never will. I never stopped going out in public, only wore a mask when I absolutely had to. So why am I not dead? I was even running ambulance calls and transporting covid patients so my exposure level was high.

 

[jaF0]

If you're in bad enough shape (regardless of the cause) to be put on a ventilator, your chances of ever living a normal life again are very slim. You will likely always have some effects.

 

[TrailerHitch]

If you're in bad enough shape (regardless of the cause) to be put on a ventilator, your chances of ever living a normal life again are very slim. You will likely always have some effects.

Death being the worst.

 

[RoryN]

Now reportedly on the mend...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...n-improving-responding-pneumonia-t-rcna120438

 

[DeluxAuto]

Now reportedly on the mend...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...n-improving-responding-pneumonia-t-rcna120438

Was it thoughts and prayers or fleecing trumpers that have created this new development?

 

[RobDownSouth]

I love the co-morbidities thing...I'm 64, diabetic, on high blood pressure meds. I had covid twice, both mild cases, no lasting effects at all. Why? Statistically I should have been on my death bed twice. It was no more than similar to a sinus infection and a bad cough for me, both times. Why? I never got the so called "vaccine." And never will. I never stopped going out in public, only wore a mask when I absolutely had to. So why am I not dead? I was even running ambulance calls and transporting covid patients so my exposure level was high.

Interesting, in another thread you claimed to have been a firefighter for "40 years" yet prior to 2007, being diabetic was an automatic disqualification from being a firefighter.

Is your diabeetus the result of retiring early and leading such a sedentary lifestyle that you done got fat down there in Tennessee?

 

[Comshaw]

I love the co-morbidities thing...I'm 64, diabetic, on high blood pressure meds. I had covid twice, both mild cases, no lasting effects at all. Why? Statistically I should have been on my death bed twice. It was no more than similar to a sinus infection and a bad cough for me, both times. Why? I never got the so called "vaccine." And never will. I never stopped going out in public, only wore a mask when I absolutely had to. So why am I not dead? I was even running ambulance calls and transporting covid patients so my exposure level was high.

Why? Luck and some physiological reason that no one has identified. My nephew was 51, obese, on high blood pressure meds but otherwise healthy and active. He caught Covid and it killed him in a week. Other people with the same conditions fared fine with Covid. It's the luck of the draw. You were just damned lucky in the DNA lottery.

Comshaw

 

[Comshaw]

I can't access the later studies (paywall) but the Washington Post reported an 88% mortality rate on ventilators in the pre-vaccine portion of the pandemic. Lots of Co-morbidities for these folks though (obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure....in other words, a phalanx of Trailer Hitches). LINK

88%? I can accept that because there is data to back it up. But the bullshit "50 to 97% die" is just that. Data with a 47 point spread? Nope, bullshit.
An 88% death rate means that a last-ditch effort with a ventilator saved 12% of those who would have died without it. Good odds? Not hardly, but I bet if you ask any of those who are in that 12% they would be happy as hell. I would be.


Comshaw

 

[TrailerHitch]

Interesting, in another thread you claimed to have been a firefighter for "40 years" yet prior to 2007, being diabetic was an automatic disqualification from being a firefighter.

Is your diabeetus the result of retiring early and leading such a sedentary lifestyle that you done got fat down there in Tennessee?

I was a career firefighter for 25 years and a volunteer firefighter concurrently and 15 additional years, for a total of 40 years. Maybe where you live diabetes is a disqualifier but there were a few of us on my department that had diabetes. We were type 2 later in life diagnosed. It had zero effect on my job status or anyone else's on that department. Nice try to slander me with your idiocy once again.

Your automatic disqualifier is an NFPA Standard and not every fire department follows the NFPA medical guidelines. NFPA is a standard writing organization but the standards are not mandatory unless adopted by your state or the local authority having jurisdiction. It's obvious that you are not a firefighter and did nothing more than a google search. Next time ask someone that actually knows.

Actually I lost weight once I retired. I am in better health now than I have been in a long while. Thanks for your snotty ass phony concern.

By the way diabeetus is spelled diabetes.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Why? Luck and some physiological reason that no one has identified. My nephew was 51, obese, on high blood pressure meds but otherwise healthy and active. He caught Covid and it killed him in a week. Other people with the same conditions fared fine with Covid. It's the luck of the draw. You were just damned lucky in the DNA lottery.

Comshaw

Okay. I'll take that as a valid answer since no one really knows the whys and why nots of why some people got sick and why some didn't and why some died. In my case better lucky than dead.

Although I base it on clean living, lots of hand sanitizing, taking vitamins and supplements.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

88%? I can accept that because there is data to back it up. But the bullshit "50 to 97% die" is just that. Data with a 47 point spread? Nope, bullshit.
An 88% death rate means that a last-ditch effort with a ventilator saved 12% of those who would have died without it. Good odds? Not hardly, but I bet if you ask any of those who are in that 12% they would be happy as hell. I would be.


Comshaw

I can't access the later studies (paywall) but the Washington Post reported an 88% mortality rate on ventilators in the pre-vaccine portion of the pandemic. Lots of Co-morbidities for these folks though (obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure....in other words, a phalanx of Trailer Hitches). LINK

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7276026/

 

[RobDownSouth]

I was a career firefighter for 25 years and a volunteer firefighter concurrently and 15 additional years, for a total of 40 years. Maybe where you live diabetes is a disqualifier but there were a few of us on my department that had diabetes. We were type 2 later in life diagnosed. It had zero effect on my job status or anyone else's on that department. Nice try to slander me with your idiocy once again.

Your automatic disqualifier is an NFPA Standard and not every fire department follows the NFPA medical guidelines. NFPA is a standard writing organization but the standards are not mandatory unless adopted by your state or the local authority having jurisdiction. It's obvious that you are not a firefighter and did nothing more than a google search. Next time ask someone that actually knows.

Actually I lost weight once I retired. I am in better health now than I have been in a long while. Thanks for your snotty ass phony concern.

By the way diabeetus is spelled diabetes.

That's an awful lot of man-splaining to say "I never met national firefighter standards".

Wilford Brimley pronounced it "diabeetus", so I prefer to use his pronunciation. Why?

1. I like the way it sounds
2. It rustles the jimmies of many of many folks who support the former President.

Hey, since you were one of the "great untouched" despite several bouts with Covid, I have a question for you....do you find yourself running more yellow lights lately?
https://i.imgur.com/u85Zx9m.png

 

[TrailerHitch]

That's an awful lot of man-splaining to say "I never met national firefighter standards".

Wilford Brimley pronounced it "diabeetus", so I prefer to use his pronunciation. Why?

1. I like the way it sounds
2. It rustles the jimmies of many of many folks who support the former President.

Hey, since you were one of the "great untouched" despite several bouts with Covid, I have a question for you....do you find yourself running more yellow lights lately?
https://i.imgur.com/u85Zx9m.png

The fire department set the standards not me and the NFPA standards are not law, therefore if you do not adopt them there is no not meeting the standards.

It doesn't rustle my jimmies at all. I just figured you were too stupid to know how to spell it right.

No last effects means just that. No lasting effects. I live just as I did before I had covid. I'd be curious to know with Dr Mullen's finding what percentage suffering brain damage had the vaccinations. I know a couple dozen people that had covid and they are exactly the same person as they were before. Both vaccinated and not.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Pivot to anti-vaxx duly noted and summarily mocked.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Pivot to anti-vaxx duly noted and summarily mocked.

Rob the stalker, only appears on these topics to follow me around and bald faced lie about what I said.

You know, the kind of shit a TROLL does.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Thank you editor fuck head. You knew what I meant. It never was the ventilator that killed them, but it sure as fuck didn't save too many either. The symptoms that put you on a ventilator usually meant you were already circling the drain.

NO Hitch, I didn't know what you meant. This a written form right? Words have meanings, sentences imply ideas and paragraphs sum up thoughts.

You fucking failed on getting your thought across. At least four people directly commented on your fuck up. Don't go getting pissy at us,because you can't write well enough to express your thoughts.

 

[coati]

Rob the stalker, only appears on these topics to follow me around and bald faced lie about what I said.

Your paranoid victimhood is duly noted.

 

[TrailerHitch]

NO Hitch, I didn't know what you meant. This a written form right? Words have meanings, sentences imply ideas and paragraphs sum up thoughts.

You fucking failed on getting your thought across. At least four people directly commented on your fuck up. Don't go getting pissy at us,because you can't write well enough to express your thoughts.

Yawn...More semantical games from the Great White North. Play on little boy, do play on.

You are a boring broken record.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You are a boring broken record.

Maybe, but you keep coming back to listen. *chuckles*