Mary Lou Retton, Libertarian Grifter

People died from Covid, not the fucking machines that were helping them breath when the Covid virus had decimated their lungs....How fucking stupid are you really???

Here is an old link on ICU care and the ventilator mortality rate. Maybe this will help "educate you", but I doubt it, you're just a fucking Covid vaccine denier...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7276026/

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/management/critical-care-for-adults/oxygenation-and-ventilation-for-adults/#:~:text=General Considerations-,Recommendations,H2O ( AIIa ).

As to damage to lungs from ventilators, yes it can happen, but if you had Covid and your lungs were failing, guess what? You went on the Vent or you died...That's the facts jack!
I said being on a vent most often was a death sentence, not that the ventilator killed them. But, by the time you ended up on ventilator odds were it wasn't going to make a difference. Can that sink into your thick head?
 
Ventilators were fatal for many people diagnosed with covid. The explanation I saw previously is the patients could not expel fluid. This article says ventilators stretch the lungs beyond safe limits. Her kids may be thinking about their inheritance.
Idiot above posts ventilators were fatal.
huh? where did you get this idea from?

Being on a vent is never a good option. The longer you're not breathing under your own "power" the more damage occurs. Been known for decades, but beats the iron lung.
I reply back, where did you get this idea from?
Where did they get that idea from? How about case after case after case of people with covid being put on a ventilator and then dying. The ventilators did not work in too many cases, so much so that many came to realize that it was a death sentence.
You state being put on a ventilator was a "death sentence".
I said being on a vent most often was a death sentence, not that the ventilator killed them. But, by the time you ended up on ventilator odds were it wasn't going to make a difference. Can that sink into your thick head?
No you didn't. Maybe that is what you meant, but that is not what you wrote....suddenly when you realise you fucked up, you add in the word "often"
 
I said being on a vent most often was a death sentence, not that the ventilator killed them.

Did you? I'm throwing the challenge flag...

How about case after case after case of people with covid being put on a ventilator and then dying. The ventilators did not work in too many cases, so much so that many came to realize that it was a death sentence.

Yes, that's exactly what you inferred, you mouth-breathing moron. Otherwise, there was no point in you addressing ventilators! 🤣🤣
 
Did you? I'm throwing the challenge flag...



Yes, that's exactly what you inferred, you mouth-breathing moron. Otherwise, there was no point in you addressing ventilators! 🤣🤣
Like what do you expect from a vaccine denier....
I was never vaccinated, neither was my wife. We both had covid twice, it was no worse than a cold or perhaps a sinus infection and left no long term effects for either one of us. My brother in law had the vaccination and boosters and was hospitalized and almost died. He has one comorbidity and I have 2. If the vaccine works so well why was he on death's door and I had virtually no symptoms at all? I understand vaccinations very well. I am old enough that the polio vaccine was brand spanking new when I was a child. The vaccine virtually wiped out new cases of polio because it actually worked. It didn't maybe work, or sometimes work, or require multiple boosters to work, it just worked. But as far as masks go experts have stated clearly of late that the use of masks made virtually no difference at all in stopping transmission of covid.
 
Like what do you expect from a vaccine denier....
So posting what I said and proving I never got vaccinated makes you a hero for some reason. It seems if I admitted to never being vaccinated there is little point in reposting it. Well unless you felt you were losing on this topic and needed to rehash an older topic to divert.
 
Idiot above posts ventilators were fatal.

I reply back, where did you get this idea from?

You state being put on a ventilator was a "death sentence".

No you didn't. Maybe that is what you meant, but that is not what you wrote....suddenly when you realise you fucked up, you add in the word "often"
Thank you editor fuck head. You knew what I meant. It never was the ventilator that killed them, but it sure as fuck didn't save too many either. The symptoms that put you on a ventilator usually meant you were already circling the drain.
 
Thank you editor fuck head. You knew what I meant. It never was the ventilator that killed them, but it sure as fuck didn't save too many either. The symptoms that put you on a ventilator usually meant you were already circling the drain.
You implied that ventilators killed people with covid.
And now you're trying to walk it back.
 
I never implied anything. But keep playing that over and over and maybe you'll even convince yourself it's true.
Fuzzy and Rory already showed you the error of your ways.
Your inability to accept responsibility is your own shortcoming.
You have no honor.
 
Thank you editor fuck head. You knew what I meant. It never was the ventilator that killed them, but it sure as fuck didn't save too many either. The symptoms that put you on a ventilator usually meant you were already circling the drain.
^^^This MAGAt knows all about medicine because he has a part time job at a big box store.
 
^^^This MAGAt knows all about medicine because he has a part time job at a big box store.
Actually super genius I spent 40 years as a firefighter and 39 as an EMT, my wife worked in an ICU, her sister works in a hospital, my son works in a hospital. So unlike you I can speak from real world experience and not just blow smoke like you do.

It's a shame that my working part-time after I retired seems like a way for you to insult me. You must be another whiny ass liberal that doesn't understand the satisfaction of working and sucks off the hind tit of welfare paid for by guys like me.
 
How is what this woman does any of the first bit of my business? Why do I care what's going on with her, or how she is insured or isn't, or what's ailing here or if she pays her bills or doesn't? Not the first bit of this is any of my business. None, and it's a fallacy to think that my opinion matters. Thanks be to Allah for my not being glued to the 24/7 "news" feed!!!
 
Actually super genius I spent 40 years as a firefighter and 39 as an EMT, my wife worked in an ICU, her sister works in a hospital, my son works in a hospital. So unlike you I can speak from real world experience and not just blow smoke like you do.
So, in other words, none of you are doctors who have to make the decision to either put a very sick patient on a ventilator in order to at least give them a chance to survive or just let them suffocate.

And, none of you are providing statistics comparing very ill patients who were given that chance to survive and those who simply were allowed to suffocate.

And, you are the only person on the politics board who works and pays taxes.

OK, I think that summarizes your qualifications. I can certainly see why the manager at the big box store was eager to hire you.
 
So, in other words, none of you are doctors who have to make the decision to either put a very sick patient on a ventilator in order to at least give them a chance to survive or just let them suffocate.

And, none of you are providing statistics comparing very ill patients who were given that chance to survive and those who simply were allowed to suffocate.

And, you are the only person on the politics board who works and pays taxes.

OK, I think that summarizes your qualifications. I can certainly see why the manager at the big box store was eager to hire you.
Well you're the stupid fuck that thought my part-time job was relevant somehow to this topic. Once again you proved you can't debate me so you have to attack me. Nice picture of how you handle defeat, poorly. Maybe you should try working you worthless whiny liberal welfare tit sucker.

Someone already posted statistics that 50 to 97% ventilated died, so being ventilated did little or nothing to improve chances of survival for most patients.
 
Someone already posted statistics that 50 to 97% ventilated died, so being ventilated did little or nothing to improve chances of survival for most patients.
Our statistician from the Lowes big box store now informs the families of COVID patients that ventilation is not an effective option for people who are suffocating.

All doctors should also take heed from this point forward.
 
Well you're the stupid fuck that thought my part-time job was relevant somehow to this topic. Once again you proved you can't debate me so you have to attack me. Nice picture of how you handle defeat, poorly. Maybe you should try working you worthless whiny liberal welfare tit sucker.

Someone already posted statistics that 50 to 97% ventilated died, so being ventilated did little or nothing to improve chances of survival for most patients.
Tell that to the 3 to 50% of people it helped survive. As noted earlier, ventilators were a last hail mary when EVERYTHING ELSE failed. Fuck all mighty. "Well it didn't save all of them so it doesn't work and we shouldn't have done it!" Sorry but if it saved only .001%, it was worth the try.

Comshaw
 
Our statistician from the Lowes big box store now informs the families of COVID patients that ventilation is not an effective option for people who are suffocating.

All doctors should also take heed from this point forward.
Yawn...You are so predictable and boring. Of course they would be ventilated and of course 50 to 97% died anyways. I never said don't ventilate them. But you act as if it is a miracle cure and it isn't by a long stretch. Between 3% and 50% survived. Horrible odds any day but better than nothing when nothing was all they had otherwise.

So let's see how you twist this into another of your liberal whiny fucking lies.
 
Tell that to the 3 to 50% of people it helped survive. As noted earlier, ventilators were a last hail mary when EVERYTHING ELSE failed. Fuck all mighty. "Well it didn't save all of them so it doesn't work and we shouldn't have done it!" Sorry but if it saved only .001%, it was worth the try.

Comshaw
Of course they would be ventilated and of course 50 to 97% died anyways. I never said don't ventilate them. But you act as if it is a miracle cure and it isn't by a long stretch. Between 3% and 50% survived. Horrible odds any day but better than nothing when nothing was all they had otherwise.
 
Mary Lou Retton, Olympic champion, lives a nice life in a Houston suburb. She owns a two million dollar home, free and clear.
She espouses a Libertarian philosophy. As such, she saw no need for "health insurance", becoz she had cash, y'know? Shades of AJ!

Wellllll....just like AJ (whose 5 figure net worth was wiped out by a bout of hospitalization for "new moania" back in 2019), Mary Lou has rung up an extraordinary hospital bill for eight solid days in an induced coma on a ventilator in a Houston ICU. Seems Mary Lou came down with a rare form of pneumonia. Some doctors are saying it is eosinophilic pneumonia, which is a gruesome way to die (think of all those air sacs in your lungs popping like that packing bubble stuff you get at the post office).

Her libertarian daughters immediately sprung into action! Touch Savings? Not only no, but HELL NO! Get a mortgage secured by the Retton Mansion? oh, no to that too! They started a GoFundMe page on one of the sketchier GoFundMe clone sites (GoFundMe somehow takes a cut?) and Murica is responding! Ask for 50 grand, get $375,000! Wooo comma hooo!

Get well soon Mary Lou!

edited: wrong total
The woman is gravely ill, and this is what you post?

Let me return the favor, please don't burden our health care system when all your recreational Opioid popping burns out your stomach and liver and leaves you on a machine.

Until that happens, kindly go fuck yourself. Someone has to do it.
 
You sound upset. Was it something I said?
No, it's your blatant ridiculousness and need for reason to post an asshole comment to everything I say.

By the way, either you don't work, which makes you a whiny welfare Bitch, or you are embarrassed about what you do. I retired as a career firefighter/EMT at 54 and that's too young to sit while my wife is still working. That's why I work at Lowe's. Not that explaining that will make a bit of a difference to a jag off like you.
 
People gathering around the sick and all contributing what they have to help with the treatment - what is this communism?
 
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