LusterMunky
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Oh gawd, I guess we're going down this road. Sowwy Chained. NHL I don't disagree with you, except that "small voice" you speak of is our inherent humanity and sense of right and wrong. The "faith" you speak of is the ultimate scam. Faith means having faith in faith, the grandest (and most successful) circular logic ever.
Hah! Chained prolly didn't anticipate this thread devolving into a discussion about religion. Nobody wins. Let's talk boobies.
or the Great BustardCan we talk other seabirds, too?
Ummm well no, not bingo. Spirit is an intensely personal thing and I try hard not cause offense by point scoring over something so emotive. We each have our own beliefs and we must respect each others' beliefs as much as we respect anything else in our lives.
Phew, we made it through that flurry. Lol
I'm curious, have you ever unloaded on someone on Lit? Are you more prone to do so here than in RL? Did it help?
Man, I thought I had killed this thread

Oh hang on... does unloaded mean something different in the US? I was thinking unloaded = confided = backed up your dumper truck ( of woes )
Note to self, not everyone speaks my version of American![]()
Yes, I agree with you. About the humiliation i mentioned in my post. I was referring to the virtue of humility and penance, the modesty.
What better and more genuine act of humility is there than the sincere confession of sins committed? Is it not the remedy of the vice of pride, the root of all sins?
Until religions, Christianity and Islam in particular, rid themselves of their hierarchy that seeks to control people through their guilt, I have no time for them. I was brought up in a Christian school, sang in the choir so I am not blind to the comfort it can offer people by providing a framework for the spirit to be become understandable, but every century, that spirit is hijacked by men with a political agenda.
Guilt is not unique to people or Christians - animals feel guilt - it is an instinct acquired by social groups for its betterment.
I am a spiritual person but perhaps I am a humanist as well and if someone bears guilt for an action, it seems to me the right person to speak to , to confess to, is the person you have wronged. Only then can people truly forgive and truly be honest with each other. Confessing to a god or a priest is evading the truth and putting a sticking-plaster ( band aid ) over deception.
I'm really sorry if I upset people by saying that - I never intend harm and would never actively criticise another person's beliefs but... since we are discussing it here, that's my halfpennies' worth.![]()
I agree with you more than you realize.
For me there is a clear line between faith and religion.
Ghandi said "Each one prays to God according to his own light."
There are people who spend every Sunday in church and the rest of the week forget all about it. Isn't it better to live each day hearing that still small voice and doing right?
Where the choice is between Church and Faith I choose Faith.
Dutchy, darling, I wish someone other than you had posted this (now I will have guilt). Guilt is the currency of religion.
OK - one of those language things that could lead to troubleBy unloaded I meant send an angry message usually prompted by the actions of the recipient.
Note to self, not everyone speaks my version of American![]()
Oh hang on... does unloaded mean something different in the US? I was thinking unloaded = confided = backed up your dumper truck ( of woes )
Oops ... Sorry folks, I hadn't noted the topics moved from boobies over seabirds (it seems a boobie is a seabird too?) to unloading and languages ...
And now guns ...

interesting discussions over the last few days...
That's why this is my favourite thread!