Lincoln - the movie

[miles]

Daniel Day-Lewis and Sally Field both get four out of five stars. The movie itself: two stars. It's too long, dreary, and downright boring.....2 1/2 hours of my life I'll never get back. Wish I'd waited for the DVD.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I am not about to watch a single thing that our entertainment industry has to say about history or politics.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

You mean that, last year, Warhorse wasn't true???


Now I am really hurt.

 

[Bidin~Time]

You mean that, last year, Warhorse wasn't true???


Now I am really hurt.

That one was true.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

That one was true.

*sniff*


Good, now I feel all better . . .


an' shit.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Lincoln:

Split rails
Freed the slaves
Got shot

What more do you need to know?

 

[mercury14]

Daniel Day-Lewis and Sally Field both get four out of five stars. The movie itself: two stars. It's too long, dreary, and downright boring.....2 1/2 hours of my life I'll never get back. Wish I'd waited for the DVD.

Because if you spend 2 1/2 hours watching a DVD movie you can get it back.

 

[Bidin~Time]

*sniff*


Good, now I feel all better . . .


an' shit.

I'm pleased I could clear that up for you.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I'm pleased I could clear that up for you.

As clear as an azure sky . . . .


Musta sicced the Plotts on clarity and they found its nest.

 

[Bidin~Time]

As clear as an azure sky . . . .


Musta sicced the Plotts on clarity and they found its nest.

They are multi-talented beasts; forces to be reckoned with to be sure.

'Tis why I only use them for good.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

They are multi-talented beasts; forces to be reckoned with to be sure.

'Tis why I only use them for good.

Keep them away from Poodles and nasty feral cats.


I read that somewhere.


Or I may have just made it up from whole cloth.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Lincoln:

Split rails
Freed the slaves
Got shot

What more do you need to know?

Lincoln freed nobody. Dred Scott was the law of the land the day he was elected, and on the day he died. Plus he sold slaves to Central America via his consuls. Too many to feed. His cavalry also murdered plenty of slaves, generally the slaves who refused to leave the plantations.

 

[Beco]

Lincoln:

Split rails
Freed the slaves
Got shot

What more do you need to know?

you forgot, wore a top hat

 

[Bidin~Time]

Keep them away from Poodles and nasty feral cats.


I read that somewhere.


Or I may have just made it up from whole cloth.

That can be a problem, as their one fault is a weakness for da poodle pussy.

Or any pussy, for that matter.

They put the horn in horndog.

 

[blobfish]

Lincoln freed nobody. Dred Scott was the law of the land the day he was elected, and on the day he died.

You're being intentionally misleading, you fucking cozen; the Thirteenth Amendment was passed in both the House and Senate long before Lincoln's assassination, but it had to be approved by the state legislators (including the former Confederate states) before it could become law.

 

[eyer]

I enjoyed Rex Reed's summation of the film:

...as wooden as Washington's teeth.

Reed also airs factual truth about the man that Spielberg - for whatever reason(s) - declined to include in his movie:

In reality, Lincoln believed in equality under the law, but not racial equality; he had no use for blacks and maintained a strong personal belief that whites were a superior race. In his efforts to get his amendment passed, Honest Abe was not so honest either. He and his cabinet of rivals were not above bribery, lies, suspending habeas corpus or bending the Constitution to break the South’s economic infrastructure.

http://observer.com/2012/11/lincoln-rex-reed-daniel-day-lewis-tommy-lee-jones/

I'm editing to add:

I hold no doubt that Lincoln was a racist...

...the evidence is found in his human belief that blacks were an inferior race, and that core belief is precisely - and only - what racism is, in my mind's eyes.

One of the personal qualities I most admire of Lincoln is that his natural love of equality under the law was stronger than both his racism and the tyrannical part of his political nature...

...the cream always rises to the top.

 

[Bert Notorius]

i live in the land of lincoln...blue, broke, and bound. a fine legacy. lewis came to springfield to study. i bet that was an eyeopener.

 

[Tryharder62]

I too live in the land of Lincoln. I'd take Lincoln twenty times over the last bloke that came from these parts. (I agree that the movie was a little tedious at times. Daniel Day Lewis did give me shivers sometimes in his portrayal.)

 

[blobfish]

I enjoyed Rex Reed's summation of the film:

...as wooden as Washington's teeth.

Reed also airs factual truth about the man that Spielberg - for whatever reason(s) - declined to include in his movie:



http://observer.com/2012/11/lincoln-rex-reed-daniel-day-lewis-tommy-lee-jones/

I'm editing to add:

I hold no doubt that Lincoln was a racist...

...the evidence is found in his human belief that blacks were an inferior race, and that core belief is precisely - and only - what racism is, in my mind's eyes.

One of the personal qualities I most admire of Lincoln is that his natural love of equality under the law was stronger than both his racism and the tyrannical part of his political nature...

...the cream always rises to the top.

It's ridiculous to judge someone that lived and died in the nineteenth century by modern standards. The only people that weren't racist back then were radicals. It would be like an animal rights activist believing that farm animals are equal to humans. That was the way black people were perceived then.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I enjoyed Rex Reed's summation of the film:

...as wooden as Washington's teeth.

Reed also airs factual truth about the man that Spielberg - for whatever reason(s) - declined to include in his movie:



http://observer.com/2012/11/lincoln-rex-reed-daniel-day-lewis-tommy-lee-jones/

I'm editing to add:

I hold no doubt that Lincoln was a racist...

...the evidence is found in his human belief that blacks were an inferior race, and that core belief is precisely - and only - what racism is, in my mind's eyes.

One of the personal qualities I most admire of Lincoln is that his natural love of equality under the law was stronger than both his racism and the tyrannical part of his political nature...

...the cream always rises to the top.

Lincoln had no love for equality under the law. During the Civil War he was constantly dragged before the Supremes for violating fundamental civil liberties, like habeas corpus. He tried to execute Southern prisoners and the Supremes ruled that the South was a co-belligerant in the war NOT rebels or criminals, in effect they ordained the CSA as a sovereign power. But he kept killing prisoners till Mosby started hanging Union prisoners.

You may wanna examine Lincolns record closer. Mencken was correct, the only boys fighting for self determination at Gettysburg were Southern boys.

 

[eyer]

Lincoln had no love for equality under the law. During the Civil War he was constantly dragged before the Supremes for violating fundamental civil liberties, like habeas corpus. He tried to execute Southern prisoners and the Supremes ruled that the South was a co-belligerant in the war NOT rebels or criminals, in effect they ordained the CSA as a sovereign power. But he kept killing prisoners till Mosby started hanging Union prisoners.

Yeah...

...that's obviously covered under "the tyrannical part of his political nature" I posted of.

You may wanna examine Lincolns record closer. Mencken was correct, the only boys fighting for self determination at Gettysburg were Southern boys.

And "You may wanna examine" my "record" on Lincoln "closer" before you so irresponsibly cast views as only your own in a failed effort to correct another poster...

...LIT's search function really does work, you know.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Yeah...

...that's obviously covered under "the tyrannical part of his political nature" I posted of.



And "You may wanna examine" my "record" on Lincoln "closer" before you so irresponsibly cast views as only your own in a failed effort to correct another poster...

...LIT's search function really does work, you know.

Your views differ significantly from the historical record, old boy.

 

[eyer]

Your views differ significantly from my views, old boy.

Hello reality...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Hello reality...

Admit it, youre a historical newbie.

 

[eyer]

Admit it, youre a historical newbie.

"historical"ly speaking?

Of course I am, and I've never known another human being who's ever lived who's honestly, intelligently claimed "historical" oldie status...

...you're either Adam, or actually meant "history newbie" but are more ignorant than you give yourself credit for.