Libertarians?

[RobDownSouth]

What then, how to you engage in meaningful debate with someone who starts off with "Since the earth is flat..." or "Since Obama is a radical maxist..." or "Since Libertarians think all poor people better just starve the fuck away..."?

And the inevitable followup...."I invite you to provide evidence to PROVE ME WRONG" © 2012 JulyBabby04 Debate Techniques, Inc.

 

[zipman]

National Socialist Democrats: If you aren't with us, you're against us, because you are a black and white thinker who actually likes the drivel written by Ayn Rand.

Speaking of "if you aren't with us you're against us..."

If you are not well-studied in the Austrian School of Economics, then you are one of those situational Libertarians who tend to be one, or two, issue voters but will side with Interventionism especially if you can frame the positive influence of government in ecological or "social" terms...

I couldn't make this shit up.

 

[blulilacgrl]

I don't see why libertarians would want to be Republicans.

They don't.

I think most of the world is wrong and misguided. What I see more and more lately though is people being wrong and misguided about facts.
Not which policy most effectively solve a problem, or about what is morally right and wrong. But partisan divides about what reality is. What then, how to you engage in meaningful debate with someone who starts off with "Since the earth is flat..." or "Since Obama is a radical maxist..." or "Since Libertarians think all poor people better just starve the fuck away..."?

Although sometimes people misconstrue opinion for fact OR the numbers that the "facts" are based on are skewed and manipulated.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Right wing hippies I call them.

 

[eyer]

I do not believe I've ever come across a true libertarian...

...for every person I've ever come across who claims that tag is actually a neolibertarian, at very best.

Quite obviously, the top rungs of the current political ladder in the USSA today are the Democrat and Republican Partys...

...and it's a big drop down to the next and, figuratively speaking, last rung - the Libertarians.

There are no rungs at all between that last one and the first two, as there are no current hopes of any rung higher than the first two existing...

...which is sad because it says almost everything about how politically retarded this nation has become.

Neolibertarians are simply those who can't quite step-up to the last rung...

 

[JohnnySavage]

If you are not well-studied in the Austrian School of Economics, then you are one of those situational Libertarians who tend to be one, or two, issue voters but will side with Interventionism especially if you can frame the positive influence of government in ecological or "social" terms...

I don't think most people here get your subtle form of humor. Rest assured though, you expounding on economic theory always makes me giggle.

 

[lilredknotyhood]

Those who would sacrifice Liberty, for a little bit of Security deserve neither.

Plain and Simple the Government has gotten to big, and it is only hurting our society as a whole.

Education system in America sucks, due to federal regulation and national standardized testing.

We have people that would rather not work, because they know they will receive their government handout. Why will they, because the government mandates that you pay into a fund that helps them. Why would they rather not work, because they don't have to. The need to work for survival is gone.

The Government thinks we are out of money we will just print more, sure go ahead devalue the dollar and drive our economy into the ground please.

Our debt was at 5 trillion before the current administration. Thats the total of every President that came before. The current administration has single handedly added 4 trillion worth of debt on top of that.

The American people will not settle for a Socialistic 1984 Society, and they will not settle for a Fascist Regime either.

It is time for both the so called Liberals yeah Dems go ahead and drop the Lib name cause there is nothing Liberating about any of your beliefs, and the Republicans to go away.

We the people want change, if we don't receive it, we will bring it

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Those who would sacrifice Liberty, for a little bit of Security deserve neither.

Plain and Simple the Government has gotten to big, and it is only hurting our society as a whole.

Education system in America sucks, due to federal regulation and national standardized testing.

We have people that would rather not work, because they know they will receive their government handout. Why will they, because the government mandates that you pay into a fund that helps them. Why would they rather not work, because they don't have to. The need to work for survival is gone.

The Government thinks we are out of money we will just print more, sure go ahead devalue the dollar and drive our economy into the ground please.

Our debt was at 5 trillion before the current administration. Thats the total of every President that came before. The current administration has single handedly added 4 trillion worth of debt on top of that.

The American people will not settle for a Socialistic 1984 Society, and they will not settle for a Fascist Regime either.

It is time for both the so called Liberals yeah Dems go ahead and drop the Lib name cause there is nothing Liberating about any of your beliefs, and the Republicans to go away.

We the people want change, if we don't receive it, we will bring it

And here we are.

On a porn board.

Reading erotica.

Jerking our cocks.

Jilling our cunts.

Every day is like the next.

Talking shit.

Getting off.

We will basically be the same tomorrow as we are today.

Because.

We're on a porn board.

Reading erotica.

Jerking our cocks.

Jilling our cunts.

Every day is like the next.

Talking shit.

Getting off.

We will basically be the same tomorrow as we are today.

Because.

We're on a porn board.

Reading erotica.

Jerking our cocks.

Jilling our cunts.

Every day is like the...

 

[eyer]

Our debt was at 5 trillion before the current administration. Thats the total of every President that came before. The current administration has single handedly added 4 trillion worth of debt on top of that.

Factually "Our debt was at 5 trillion before the" previous "administration"...

...because the day W took office, our debt stood @ $5.73 trillion.

The day W was sworn-in to his second term, our debt was $7.61 trillion...

...on W's last day as President, and on Obama's first, our debt had reached $10.63 - so W almost doubled the debt during his 8 years in office.

Today, after just one term and 3 months of the Obama presidency, our debt has increased another 60+%...

...as it stands presently @ $16.81 trillion and counting.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

The American people will not settle for a Socialistic 1984 Society, and they will not settle for a Fascist Regime either.

Seems to me a very large number of "American people" are settling for both...

We the people want change, if we don't receive it, we will bring it

Sounds like collectively utopian entitlement expectation...

...I prefer an individual approach, myself; that way, I can live my life the way I talk instead of expecting others to be honest and sincere enough to do the same.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Wow, how are the noobs somehow getting stupider?

 

[BotanyBoy]

I have to ask because I see a lot of references to Libertarians and their beliefs and these statements are quite often wrong.

How many people here are Libertarians? If not, how many have done their research on the party or do they simply subscribe to the false notion and media spin that the Libertarian Party is simply a branch of the Republican Party?

I agree with their social control policies almost entirely....what consenting adults (However a given jurisdiction wants to define that) want to do is none of the governments mother fuckin' bidnizz....should not even be involved in those matters. I do support gov regulated/child protection/labor etc laws...so that's kinda anti libertarian I suppose. But yea....consenting adults should be able to consume whatever they want, buy whatever they can afford and fuck whatever other consenting adult they want and do all of this however they decide they want to do it.

All the super pro freedom/liberty bit's applied to all evenly....I'm all for it....

Capitalism...I'm a fan, it has undeniable advantages (and disadvantages but imo if done well pro's>cons). It can also be evil as fuck....but the degree to which that is allowed is on management, that you elected, deal. To what degree and how the economy should be managed is an endless debate...but the massive bottom up welth redistribution (rich robbing the poor and the kids lollipops too) that we have now is obviously a heinous perversion of Capitalism born of poor management that needs to be rectified and soon.

Anti censorship pro free speech up to and including your right to be a total DICK ......sentiment....fuckin' right \m/ I think nothing but good comes from allowing assholes to continue sounding like total assholes so that we can readily identify said assholes. I think forcing anyone to be nice under penalty of law is a disservice to all.

Public/environmental health and welfare however.....cannot be entrusted to these systems....they failed in this arena. We need gov.....

Be nice. She's a sweet lady.

There are no real libertarians, theyre like atheists in foxholes, they don't exist. There are no libertarians in a financial crisis, all are in line crying for a bailout.

I spent plenty of time in a fox/spider hole FP/OP getting shot at....God never crossed my mind. Giving instructions to the morons wasting time praying instead of shooting back was a top priority.

I don't see why libertarians would want to be Republicans.

I don't totally align myself with them as I feel numerous liberal social policies have strong merit, if they would just quit with the petty pop shot bullshit and money grabby corruption would be fantastic. But I also think they overstep into just as many social issues. Like being pro censorship, anti gun, losers deserve just as much as winners sentiment.

 

[Aquagal]

I agree with their social control policies... /

You know I just clicked on your name to see what trouble you're stirring.

None at all. Sheesh!

 

[BotanyBoy]

You know I just clicked on your name to see what trouble you're stirring.

None at all. Sheesh!

I wouldn't want to offend anyone.

 

[lilredknotyhood]

Factually "Our debt was at 5 trillion before the" previous "administration"...

...because the day W took office, our debt stood @ $5.73 trillion.

The day W was sworn-in to his second term, our debt was $7.61 trillion...

...on W's last day as President, and on Obama's first, our debt had reached $10.63 - so W almost doubled the debt during his 8 years in office.

Today, after just one term and 3 months of the Obama presidency, our debt has increased another 60+%...

...as it stands presently @ $16.81 trillion and counting.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/



Seems to me a very large number of "American people" are settling for both...



Sounds like collectively utopian entitlement expectation...

...I prefer an individual approach, myself; that way, I can live my life the way I talk instead of expecting others to be honest and sincere enough to do the same.

Are you that blind that you think a large number of people ate settling. Has the liberal controlled media clouded you're vision. We are on the verge of civil unrest

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Right wing hippies I call them.

Then what the fuck are the Anarchists and Syndicalists?

Archie Bunker?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I don't think most people here get your subtle form of humor. Rest assured though, you expounding on economic theory always makes me giggle.

In 2008, I called "Lost Decade."

Halfway in and halfway correct.

Better than any of your economic prognostications...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I spent plenty of time in a fox/spider hole FP/OP getting shot at....God never crossed my mind. Giving instructions to the morons wasting time praying instead of shooting back was a top priority.
.

I observed all kinds of weirdness in Vietnam. Ditto the fire department. Ditto mental health emergency services.

 

[RobDownSouth]

In 2008, I called "Lost Decade."

Halfway in and halfway correct.

Better than any of your economic prognostications...

You also predicted Hyperinflation, Rising Inflation, Slight Deflation and Massive Deflation at the same time.

You were simultaneously "100% invested" in both Gold and Stock equities.

 

[eyer]

Are you that blind that you think a large number of people ate settling. Has the liberal controlled media clouded you're vision. We are on the verge of civil unrest

Pretty sure I saw 51% vote for Obama...

...that would be a majority, bub.

(Btw: you need to buy a couple of question marks, lose one of those periods, and shift the other, k?)

 

[Sean Renaud]

Are you that blind that you think a large number of people ate settling. Has the liberal controlled media clouded you're vision. We are on the verge of civil unrest

What crazy place do you live where civil unrest is going to happen.

 

[Tryharder62]

Librarians?

I have to ask because I see a lot of references to Librarians and their beliefs and these statements are quite often wrong.

How many people here are Librarians? If not, how many have done their research on their party or do they simply subscribe to the false notion and media spin that the Librarians party only with Republicans?

Poop, I posted in the wrong place.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I have to ask because I see a lot of references to Librarians and their beliefs and these statements are quite often wrong.

How many people here are Librarians? If not, how many have done their research on their party or do they simply subscribe to the false notion and media spin that the Librarians party only with Republicans?

Poop, I posted in the wrong place.

I've done the research and looked at their official page. Libertarians are a myth. You however are asking about a field of professionals that I know nothing about. Librarians. I'm sure Librarians as one of the primary people sucking up tax dollars as lazy government workers rarely if ever vote Republican. It would akin to slitting their own throats.