Left-wing, bleeding heart liberal, anti-war thread

[PinkOrchid]

 

[Azwed]

Where are MLK and Ghandi when you need them?

Rolling over in their graves.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

I would just love to see the look on the faces of Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Thomas Paine.

 

[Thrillhouse]

I would just love to see the look on the faces of Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Thomas Paine.

Probably something like this:

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Probably something like this:

I think they would have their wigs still

Lemme rephrase: If Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, and Sam Adams (added) were alive to see today, I wonder what they would say?

 

[Ezarc]

What about the ethnic cleansing ot the Kurds and other tribes? What about stockpiling weapons? What about funding terrorist activities around the world?
The US government did a shit job at pointing out reasons for war, but the point is hundreds of thousands of tribesmen have died or have starved. Chemical and biological weapons have been banned by the Geneva Convention but this Country makes and stockpicles tthem for future use. Funding and training of terrorist groups have been going on for years in his country.
Is this a good enough reason yet?

 

[Guest]

I think they would have their wigs still

Lemme rephrase: If Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, and Sam Adams (added) were alive to see today, I wonder what they would say?

Who the fuck is Saddam Hussein? And where's your wig?

 

[Pyper]

Probably something like this:

LOL

 

[Sandia]

"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, apply decisive force, and accept no outcome but victory."

Matthew 6:39.

 

[Xstatic]

I think they would have their wigs still

Lemme rephrase: If Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, and Sam Adams (added) were alive to see today, I wonder what they would say?

"Why is it so dark in here?"

(thanks & praise go to Terry Pratchett for this line - he was talking about pyramids, but still...)

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Who the fuck is Saddam Hussein? And where's your wig?

What are you trying to say Storm?

 

[Thrillhouse]

What about the ethnic cleansing ot the Kurds and other tribes? What about stockpiling weapons? What about funding terrorist activities around the world?
The US government did a shit job at pointing out reasons for war, but the point is hundreds of thousands of tribesmen have died or have starved. Chemical and biological weapons have been banned by the Geneva Convention but this Country makes and stockpicles tthem for future use. Funding and training of terrorist groups have been going on for years in his country.
Is this a good enough reason yet?

A good reason? Perhaps. But what are the "good reasons for: waiting until 15 years after Saddam slaughtered the Kurds, a period of time during which the US continued to sell chemical/biological agents to Iraq; ignoring the fact that our ally Turkey also slaughtered Kurds; the US funding/training of terrorists (Iran-Contra, School of the Americas, El Salvadoran death squads, etc.); ignoring the fact that it was our "ally" Saudi Arabia that funded the Sept. 11th terrorists?

 

[Linedrive]

...said about pre-emptive strikes.

It's not a pre-emptive strikes

 

[PoliteSuccubus]

Jefferson might say....

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to = remain silent.
Thomas Jefferson

History, in general, only informs us of what bad government is.
Thomas Jefferson

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson

It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.
Thomas Jefferson

In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
Thomas Jefferson

I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be.
Thomas Jefferson

But on the other hand, he also would face those he fought, not wait for a germ or nuke stike....so ya, it would be interesting to see what he would have said in the light of current events.

Didn't he fight in the Revolution?

 

[PinkOrchid]

 

[MNGuy]

Where are MLK and Ghandi when you need them? [/B]

Or for that matter Heinz Struber.

 

[MNGuy]

Who is Heinz Struber?

He led a non-violent protest in Germany in 1939 to protest the invasion of Poland.

Shot shortly afterwards.

 

[celiaKitten]

Re: Re: Left-wing, bleeding heart liberal, anti-war thread

It's not a pre-emptive strikes

Could you elaborate?

 

[breakwall]

Those are not the words of Jesus, who was recently reported by MSNBC to have told people to turn the other cheek.

Jesus was on MSNBC? How did I miss THAT interview?

 

[Spinaroonie]

My sig asked me to post in this thread

Now the sun's gone to hell
And the moon's riding high
Let me bid you farewell
Every man has to die
But it's written in the starlight
And every line on your palm
We're fools to make war
On our brothers in arms

 

[teddybear4play]

Jesus was on MSNBC? How did I miss THAT interview?

You didn't miss much.

Fucking Chris Matthews didn't let him get a word in edgewise.

TB4p

 

[KindaKinky]

About that "liberal" part…

What's the opposite of a bleeding-heart liberal? A bloodthirsty conservative? a cutthroat conservative?

If you wish to use it to label the conservatives the way they labeled the liberals, feel free to.

PS: Celia, where did you find that "ass to ass" cartoon?

 

[Paganj]

I did not and still don't believe that the Bush administration made a very good case about our need to go to war with Iraq. I'm very suspicious of the whole thing. That being said now that we are at war I back it 100%. I'm talking foaming at the mouth, drinking the blood of our enemies support.

I guess war just brings out the violent sociopath in me.

 

[KindaKinky]

You didn't miss much.

Fucking Chris Matthews didn't let him get a word in edgewise.

And it was worse when He went on "the O'reilly Factor". He told him his plan for peace and salvation and Bill interrupted but saying, "Sorry, NOT BUYING IT."

 

[Spinaroonie]

Re: About that "liberal" part…

What's the opposite of a bleeding-heart liberal? A bloodthirsty conservative? a cutthroat conservative?

If you wish to use it to label the conservatives the way they labeled the liberals, feel free to.

PS: Celia, where did you find that "ass to ass" cartoon?

Medically it'd be a blood clot, like a stroke or embolism.

The political sides aren't doing to well. Hemmoraging and embollisms. Fuck. I guess 70 years is a while to live then.