last night I watched "The Matrix" pretty freaky

[KittyOfSteele]

I asked my local library for the movie "Ghost in the shell" (the movie not the animated). can't wait to rewatch that one

If you're talking about the live action from 2017, there's nothing I have against it. I do think it was a movie that got a lot of undeserved hate. The problem, however, is that the live action is a very watered down version of the original animated film. As a fan of the franchise, I'm telling you: watching the live action first will be a lukewarming experience at best. The live action movie is better saved only for fans, and even then it's still very divisive among us.

 

[Britva415]

that business with Neo stuck in a virtual subway station…

I forget. What happened there? And was it in The Matrix or one of the sequels?

 

[MillieDynamite]

Didn't say it did. I was implying that the AI isn't trustworthy.

Cypher would still be in a battery pod, though. With his brain online, reacting to what the Matrix feeds him across the jack.

Erasing memories doesn't imply a new body or surviving after death or anything like that.

 

[MillieDynamite]

I figured if they kept their word, they'd just give his mind a different reality of his apperance, and match his form to his own warped mental image they'd given him.

Well, not until that business with Neo stuck in a virtual subway station…


They didn’t necessarily have to lie. Maybe they can perform nanoscale neurosurgery and extricate those memories directly from the neurons they’re stored in. The external stuff is just manipulating the Matrix itself.

 

[SebastianHolt]

I forget. What happened there? And was it in The Matrix or one of the sequels?

ugh, good question. wasn't in the first ... maybe the second one

 

[TheLobster]

I forget. What happened there? And was it in The Matrix or one of the sequels?

It’s between the latter two movies.

But now that I think of it, the original has the whole problem with dying inside the Matrix. “The body cannot exist without a mind” is either handwavy nonsense, or foreshadowing of the less mechanistic interpretation of the Matrix in the sequels.

 

[cw5523729]

What violates thermodynamics is the idea that it’s more efficient to extract power from human body instead of getting it directly from food used to fuel that body. It presupposes that humans are engines with an efficiency above 100%.

Oh, yeah that part i totally agree with. As I said, it defies logic that the machines couldn't find a more efficient system but then if they did, the whole movie collapses.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

S1, anyway. S2 jumped the shark big-time.

Too bad, too. Book 3 was my favorite of the series.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Uh, I think you watched the wrong movie to ask this question. To my perception, at least, the core message of The Matrix is all about how "we live in a society," like, we are part of a system, we're cogs on a machine, and all that type of stuff. It's an allegory.

Ghost in the Shell came earlier than The Matrix, and it actually delves into your question down even further. I'd say watch that instead. Not the live action though, the original animated film from the 90s. The word "Ghost" in the title literally refers to the spirit.

Yeah - The Matrix was an allegory of what people can be made to believe and what they want to believe. A message for our troubled times.

 

[EmilyMiller]

We talk about "the balance of nature" as if there were some steady state that would prevail, absent human meddling and asteroids etc. But nature is never really static.

The vast majority of species that have ever lived are now extinct. As they say, in the long run we are all dead.

 

[SimonDoom]

Watched it last month on HBO Max. Damn Keanu Reeves was cute!

I did IB Physics 7 years ago so prob very rusty, but don’t get how you’d increase available energy in a system by ‘growing’ people?

Even with my meager knowledge of physics I saw this was a problem with the concept. It didn't bother me, though. I saw it as an example of "acceptable magic."

 

[KittyOfSteele]

Yeah - The Matrix was an allegory of what people can be made to believe and what they want to believe. A message for our troubled times.

When you put it to those words it makes me feel like The Matrix was also a post made by the Wachowskis on r/egg_irl.

 

[EmilyMiller]

When you put it to those words it makes me feel like The Matrix was also a post made by the Wachowskis on r/egg_irl.

It’s actually kinda deep in many ways (said in a Keanu voice). One reason the sequels were so disappointing.

 

[EmilyMiller]

It’s actually kinda deep in many ways (said in a Keanu voice). One reason the sequels were so disappointing.

I did my version or bullet time in Nix. But with the justification that she could increase her visual framerate.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

Did the Ghost in the Shell movies know about Koestler's Ghost in the Machine? Was it a response to or story based on Koestler's concepts?

I recently saw somewhere a comment about how ironic it is for dudebros to use "redpill" to mean "become aware of how crappy woke is" when it was coined by a team of two transwomen.

--Annie

 

[EmilyMiller]

saw somewhere a comment about how ironic it is for dudebros to use "redpill" to mean "become aware of how crappy woke is" when it was coined by a team of two transwomen.

Because the rest of their creed is so legit…

 

[YmaOHyd]

Did the Ghost in the Shell movies know about Koestler's Ghost in the Machine? Was it a response to or story based on Koestler's concepts?

The original work is a manga from the late 1980s, which is... I dunno, maybe it's an interrogation of Koestler, among others. It's been quite a while since I read any of it. My memory is a lot of Descartes quotations and a lesbian sex scene removed from the original US release.

 

[Candy_Kane54]

Those are the ones I read. There's also a series; Netflix or Prime, I don't really remember. It was pretty well done; two seasons.

It was Netflix. The first season was the first book and the second season was the third book. Don't know why they skipped the second book ...

 

[Rob_Royale]

If you thing the Matrix is freaky, watch Idiocracy. That will really get you.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

If you thing the Matrix is freaky, watch Idiocracy. That will really get you.

Mike Judge is an underappreciated documentary film maker. Between that, King of the Hill and Office Space, he may be the greatest of his generation.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Mike Judge is an underappreciated documentary film maker. Between that, King of the Hill and Office Space, he may be the greatest of his generation.

Office Space is the greatest documentary of the late 20th century.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

It was Netflix. The first season was the first book and the second season was the third book. Don't know why they skipped the second book ...

Thx. Got them confused. The one on Harlan's World is my fav.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Office Space is the greatest documentary of the late 20th century.

 

[YmaOHyd]

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How many stories on this site are about a guy who got a million dollars and did two chicks at the same time, man?

 

[Kelliezgirl]

How many stories on this site are about a guy who got a million dollars and did two chicks at the same time, man?

There's always room for one more...