Kramer the racist

Hooper_X said:
Not you, unless Medjay is an ALT of yours.
Christ...figured out already......No I just wanted to make sure you weren't addressing some of the generalizations to me...the jewish guy....Peace....
 
Was the camera drunk too? Even the subtitles were slurred...
 
KravMaga said:
Christ...figured out already......No I just wanted to make sure you weren't addressing some of the generalizations to me...the jewish guy....Peace....

The only thing I said concerning Jewish people is that kike is a particularly offensive pejorative term because it, like nigger, is drenched in the blood of millions. Anything else you may have inferred is of your own imagining.
 
Hooper_X said:
As to Michael Ricards, I'm not the least bit surprised to find out that he is a racist. I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of American whites are dyed in the wool bigots of every stripe.

I have the same opinion of every race.
 
Clairebutterfly said:

if it's so uninteresting, why are you here? it's funny that you're also doing the same thing many of the openly racist posters on lit do:
come in
make a few racist statements
proceed to at tempt to hijack the thread by drawing attention away from an issue others are discussing.

If you don't like it, get out.
 
Hooper_X said:
These idiots are being disingenuous. They know full well that the reason that nigger--as well as kike--is more offensive than most insults in that the word is drenched in the blood of millions of people against whom it was used as a justification for murderous centuries-long crimes against humanity. They are engaging in what Hitler called "the big lie," which states that if you say even the most patently absurd things long enough, some people will begin to believe them.

Whenever I encounter someone who actually complains about the "double standard" of blacks being able to say "nigger" while whites can't, I assume they're either totally ignorant of the current cultural and sociological aspects of the word, or they're just aching to call people niggers.

Either way, they're stupid.
 
medjay said:
Whenever I encounter someone who actually complains about the "double standard" of blacks being able to say "nigger" while whites can't, I assume they're either totally ignorant of the current cultural and sociological aspects of the word, or they're just aching to call people niggers.

Either way, they're stupid.

There is plenty of stupid to go around on both sides of the racial fence. Doesn't justify painting the majority of a race with one brush.
 
medjay said:
Whenever I encounter someone who actually complains about the "double standard" of blacks being able to say "nigger" while whites can't, I assume they're either totally ignorant of the current cultural and sociological aspects of the word, or they're just aching to call people niggers.

Either way, they're stupid.

I find the word offensive when anyone uses it. I used to think you did too.
 
DV81 said:

There is nothing racist in that post. I don't care what you will admit to publicly, the preponderance of evidence indicates that racism is a defining characteristic of white America. This is still a de facto segregated country some 40 years after the end of de jure segregation--notwithstanding that there ever was de jure segregation in a country which calls itself the land of the free--speaks louder than hollow words.
 
Stuponfucious said:
I find the word offensive when anyone uses it. I used to think you did too.

To be honest it doesn't matter what you find offensive when it comes to a word like that.

If I were called a cracker my whole life and discriminated against I'd probably steal the word back and take away its power.
 
Hooper_X said:
There is nothing racist in that post. I don't care what you will admit to publicly, the preponderance of evidence indicates that racism is a defining characteristic of white America. This is still a de facto segregated country some 40 years after the end of de jure segregation--notwithstanding that there ever was de jure segregation in a country which calls itself the land of the free--speaks louder than hollow words.

Defining? I disagree. A factor sure. It's also a factor of black america.
 
medjay said:
...I assume they're either totally ignorant of the current cultural and sociological aspects of the word, or they're just aching to call people niggers.

I assume that they know full well why its inappropriate, but an overarching sense of entitlement rules out over reason.
 
KyleW said:
There is plenty of stupid to go around on both sides of the racial fence. Doesn't justify painting the majority of a race with one brush.

he didn't. he talked about one group of people who have one usual complaint.

he didn't say every white person says that, he said what he thinks about people who do say that.
 
KyleW said:
Defining? I disagree. A factor sure. It's also a factor of black america.

Until we start hanging you while our wives and children frolic with picnic baskets nearby, I'm not even going to pretend to stipulate to this specious bullshit.
 
_geisha_ said:
he didn't. he talked about one group of people who have one usual complaint.

he didn't say every white person says that, he said what he thinks about people who do say that.

Hooper said something like, "most white people are bigots of every stripe".
 
Hooper_X said:
Until we start hanging you while our wives and children frolic with picnic baskets nearby, I'm not even going to pretend to stipulate to this specious bullshit.

Oh right I had forgotten where me, my friends, my family, my ancestors had done that.
 
Hooper_X said:
Until we start hanging you while our wives and children frolic with picnic baskets nearby, I'm not even going to pretend to stipulate to this specious bullshit.

Look up the etymology for "slave" and then come back and preach about moral authority.
 
KyleW said:
There is plenty of stupid to go around on both sides of the racial fence. Doesn't justify painting the majority of a race with one brush.

Stuponfucious said:
I find the word offensive when anyone uses it. I used to think you did too.

I never said I agree with black people using the term. I think it's stupid.

And white people who complain about the "Double standard" are basically saying they resent not being able to say stupid shit also.

Yes, black people call each other niggers all the time, and even though it's not something I personally endorse, I know it's part of common vernacular that has different connotations in the black community. I recognize the history of the word and why we use it. It's way more complicated than "They can say it, we should be able to as well!"

Like Hooper X said, the argument's disingenuous. Anyone with any common sense knows to just not say it.
 
KyleW said:
Hooper said something like, "most white people are bigots of every stripe".
1. but you quoted medjay.
2. hooper said the majority of american whites. he didn't say all.
3. while i disagree that the majority of american whites are racist, i feel that i needed to correct your assertion that medjay was making a blanket statement.
4. i think a lot of people in america are racist.
5. i do agree with hooper X's statement that racism is a defining characteristic of america. not THE characteristic, but A characteristic.
 
medjay said:
I never said I agree with black people using the term. I think it's stupid.

And white people who complain about the "Double standard" are basically saying the resent not being able to say stupid shit also.

Yes, black people call each other niggers all the time, and even though it's not something I personally endorse, I know it's part of common vernacular that has different connotations in the black community. I recognize the history of the word and why we use it. It's way more complicated than "They can say it, we should be able to as well!"

Like Hooper X said, the argument's disingenuous. Anyone with any common sense knows to just not say it.

I don't know why you quoted me for that comment.
 
_geisha_ said:
I can safely say, in my lifetime, I have never flown off the handle and said something racist that I later regretted.

Calling someone a racial slur doesn't fix anything, it doesn't vent my anger or frustration, and it doesn't help.
Geisha...... What I mean is, ...... have you called a person an "asshole", a "fucking idiot", or "I hate you", "I never want to see you again".....?... what I'm getting at, is.................. have you ever said something to someone that you really didn't mean?

I know I have...... Though not racist, but still something I didn't mean.
 
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