Karen Kraft = 18-year-old BOY ???

Would you attend a Los Angeles (Valley) Lit-Together in March?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 45.0%
  • No

    Votes: 22 55.0%

  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
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Karen Kraft said:
But my "persona" doesn't mean I am role playing. What that means is that I am more rude and aggressive and so on when "in character"

"In character" = "Playing a role," doesn't it?

Or do you just mean to say that the only time you have the guts to be aggressive is when you're addressing a faceless mass of people that you don't consider "real?"
 
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EllieTalbot said:
"In character" = "Playing a role," doesn't it?

Or do you just mean to say that the only time you have the guts to be aggressive is when you're addressing a faceless mass of people that you don't consider "real?"

Everyone is stronger behind a mask. Myself included, but not by much lol.
 
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Karen Kraft said:
My email and PM boxes are all totally empty. Zip. Why are they showing as full??

In the upper right hand corner above your private messages there is a box that says "Show messages from" make sure you have it set to "the beginning" Also make sure your "sent messages", "message tracking" and "saved" file aren't full.

You can only have 100 messages at a time, I believe.
 
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sterlingclay said:
Everyone is stronger behind a mask. Myself included, but not by much lol.

My concern isn't the mask, but what that mask projects.

Usually masks are more telling than the real person. A person projecting an image is most often telling us what, in their heart of hearts, they really are like inside.

What's most irksome about "Karen Kraft," however, is how clear it is that s/he/it (whatever!) holds most of the people here in utter contempt. I like quite a few GB'ers, and don't happen to think they're stupid, boring dullards to be easily fooled and bullied. But that's how she treats them, every time she makes one of her "in character" assumptions, insults, and lies.
 
honeylick said:
i really don't need to keep talking. you do enough yourself...



you are confused about the plotline, are having trouble keeping up with the characters, and have about 0% good dialog to offer up... other than 'there is more to this story'.

go back to researching and questioning the time stamps on the karenkraftfanclub website source code, nostradamus

Basically he's picking up the crumbs everyone else is leaving, putting them together, and claiming he baked the bread. It's quite hysterical, but not new for him. KS always seems to think the GB would shrivel up and die without him, which is so ridiculous it wouldn't be worth noticing if it wasn't so funny.
 
sunstruck said:
KS always seems to think the GB would shrivel up and die without him, which is so ridiculous it wouldn't be worth noticing if it wasn't so funny.

Hey, give him credit for this. I actually stopped reading the KK threads until I found out KS was hell bent on proving he's actually stupider than people think.
 
Lasher said:
Hey, give him credit for this. I actually stopped reading the KK threads until I found out KS was hell bent on proving he's actually stupider than people think.

I will always give him credit for being stupider than people think.
 
sunstruck said:
I will always give him credit for being stupider than people think.

your generosity knows no bounds.
-chuckle-



oh, and i'm glad to see the apple ass avatar has made a comeback.
 
sunstruck said:
Basically he's picking up the crumbs everyone else is leaving, putting them together, and claiming he baked the bread. It's quite hysterical, but not new for him. KS always seems to think the GB would shrivel up and die without him, which is so ridiculous it wouldn't be worth noticing if it wasn't so funny.

I made it perfectly clear that I am not involved in researching this topic other than from what I see here. I did this in the Lit Junior thread because I know you people and how you think.

I have baked no bread.

Pay attention sunny because picking up crumbs is what this is all about.

Im happy to try and follow along....interject some ideas, thoughts, and try and figure this puzzle out because again....thats what it is....not by nature, but I believe a puzzle by design.
 
sunstruck said:
Basically he's picking up the crumbs everyone else is leaving, putting them together, and claiming he baked the bread. It's quite hysterical, but not new for him. KS always seems to think the GB would shrivel up and die without him, which is so ridiculous it wouldn't be worth noticing if it wasn't so funny.

I made it perfectly clear that I am not involved in researching this topic other than from what I see here. I did this in the Lit Junior thread because I know you people and how you think.

I have baked no bread.

Pay attention sunny because picking up crumbs is what this is all about.

Im happy to try and follow along....interject some ideas, thoughts, and try and figure this puzzle out because again....thats what it is....not by nature, but I believe a puzzle by design.

Edit to add: Honeylick....What did you mean when you said this.

of course there is more to the story.

try and predict something specific.

oh wait, you can't. you aren't in the loop,
 
Killswitch said:
First of all I doubt that in your eyes you ever misjudged my intelligence.

Pieces of a puzzle go together because they are supposed to fit pookie. They are designed to fit properly.

I never said I "believe" karen is who she says she is.

In other words, you're just slow noticing the obvious. Someone has to paint a picture for you ... or put a puzzle together for you to see the obvious.

There's been little "research" into Skylar. It's just been a matter of just noticing the obvious lies and contradictions along the way. You have a very hard time keeping up with the rest of the class. That makes you a perfect target for someone like Skylar. You're too busy looking at the pictures, that you don't notice the man behind the curtain ... or dress. *shrugs*
 
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EllieTalbot said:
My concern isn't the mask, but what that mask projects.

Usually masks are more telling than the real person. A person projecting an image is most often telling us what, in their heart of hearts, they really are like inside.

Like someone with too much liquor in their system.


EllieTalbot said:

What's most irksome about "Karen Kraft," however, is how clear it is that s/he/it (whatever!) holds most of the people here in utter contempt. I like quite a few GB'ers, and don't happen to think they're stupid, boring dullards to be easily fooled and bullied. But that's how she treats them, every time she makes one of her "in character" assumptions, insults, and lies.

She's shown me no contempt and I'm enjoying this character. I'm also appalled by some of the stunts the GB'ers have pulled on KK. It's sheer irony at its finest. You people are doing the very same thing that makes you call Hanns a troll, even if perhaps KK is not real, but rather an 18 year old boy. Who cares if she/he's roll playing on Literotica, hell there's a roll playing forum in this joint and no one is making a fuss about that. I digress, perhaps she has shown me no ill will because I have respected her character for what it is. You may never see the author behind KK's character because of the bandwagon hooliganism created and perpetuated by certain members of the GB and the persona itself. But please, continue. Though I thought I was bored with it, thanks to the revolations of Lit Jr. I'm reading on and enjoying my popcorn.
 
Killswitch said:
I made it perfectly clear that I am not involved in researching this topic other than from what I see here. I

Really? Then what did you mean by this?


Killswitch said:
believe me when I say that I was one of only a handful that even bothered to try and figure it out, and if I hadn't none of todays festivities would habe ensued.

So....you're welcome too.
 
what I meant by that sunny and I seemingly explained it to your satisfaction yesterday was that I felt like I had perpetuated the thread yesterday morning due to my new interest in the subject.

Other than the occassional look see....until yesterday I pretty much left the whole controversy alone other than a few comments here and there.

and pookie......I know where this thing is.....where its supposed to be if you will.....and I understand it....a lot better than 99.9% of the people looking in, ...I'm just not convinced that this is what it seems to be, or what we are being led to believe it is.

I am getting a very unusual vibe from this whole thing, and if I end up with egg on my face...so beit.

At least I played.
 
Killswitch said:
what I meant by that sunny and I seeminly explained it to you to your satisfaction yesterday

You've never, in the history of our interactions, explained anything to my satisfaction.
 
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sterlingclay said:
Like someone with too much liquor in their system.

?


She's shown me no contempt and I'm enjoying this character. I'm also appalled by some of the stunts the GB'ers have pulled on KK. It's sheer irony at its finest. You people are doing the very same thing that makes you call Hanns a troll, even if perhaps KK is not real, but rather an 18 year old boy. Who cares if she/he's roll playing on Literotica, hell there's a roll playing forum in this joint and no one is making a fuss about that. I digress, perhaps she has shown me no ill will because I have respected her character for what it is. You may never see the author behind KK's character because of the bandwagon hooliganism created and perpetuated by certain members of the GB and the persona itself. But please, continue. Though I thought I was bored with it, thanks to the revolations of Lit Jr. I'm reading on and enjoying my popcorn.


Ooookay. So as long as someone's okay to you personally, they're okay, period, right? Is that the short version of what you're saying?

This "hooliganism" isn't happening for no reason, SC. Who does this happen to? LT? Hanns? Lance? Patryn and Mia? There's usually a reason behind it. This doesn't happen to just anyone who puts out alts. I'd be more inclined to define this as "hooliganism" if there were truly only one or two people involved. But the KK saga has been "uncovered" by everyone from KM to Chey, Honeylick, Q, storm, Marxist, Pookie, and many more as it unfolded. So many, from all points of Lit, see her as nothing but a phony... Zippy, sunstruck, KS, Lasher, Bob, and oh, so many more who have rolled through those threads rolling their eyes at her. That's not a small gang, that's a majority.

Can the majority be wrong? Sure. But in this case, I seriously doubt it.

Edited because I posted something said to me in a pm, and I hate it when people do that, so I shouldn't either, no matter what reason.
 
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Killswitch said:
I'm just not convinced that this is what it seems to be, or what we are being led to believe it is.

I am getting a very unusual vibe from this whole thing, and if I end up with egg on my face...so beit.

Just what the fuck are you trying to say? Spit it out sparky!
 
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EllieTalbot said:
**** ***** *** *** *** ****, ***** **** *** ***. ****** ***** ** ***** ***** ****** *** ******.

Ok, if there's a ****** involving ***** ****** them I'm going to have to rethink everything I know about this.

Seriously.

It changes everything.

Edit: At the request of John Ashcroft... Or the Captain and Tenille... Or someone like that.
 
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honeylick said:
your generosity knows no bounds.
-chuckle-



oh, and i'm glad to see the apple ass avatar has made a comeback.

lol I still think it's a nectarine. But thank you!
 
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EllieTalbot said:
Ooookay. So as long as someone's okay to you personally, they're okay, period, right? Is that the short version of what you're saying?

This "hooliganism" isn't happening for no reason, SC. Who does this happen to? LT? Hanns? Lance? Patryn and Mia? There's usually a reason behind it. This doesn't happen to just anyone who puts out alts. I'd be more inclined to define this as "hooliganism" if there were truly only one or two people involved. But the KK saga has been "uncovered" by everyone from KM to Chey, Honeylick, Q, storm, Marxist, Pookie, and many more as it unfolded. So many, from all points of Lit, see her as nothing but a phony... Zippy, sunstruck, KS, Lasher, Bob, and oh, so many more who have rolled through those threads rolling their eyes at her. That's not a small gang, that's a majority.

Can the majority be wrong? Sure. But in this case, I seriously doubt it.

I'm not here to pass judgements so I can't say one way or another if someone is "okay." I look at everyone here neutrally with the exception of a few friends. lol, It's beautiful how this is all turning out. The GB is gangbanging Karen Kraft, good people turning to trolling tactics to oust the persona. HA! So what? All these people, including my lit friends have rolled eyes at her and fine for them. I'm just laughing at this majority gangbang, this raping of someone's character as if it's a moral victory. Fucking irony. :rolleyes:
 
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Problem Child said:
Hey, don't sell the people short. Most of us know exactly how stupid he is.

Really? Huh, he continues to surprise me. I mean, before KS came to Lit I would have thought anyone that stupid would have electrocuted themselves or cut off their own head or something by puberty.
 
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