Jacking-Off Log

[Hester]

i'm tired of this clinical language "masturbation," "orgasm," "clitoris." i want dirty and embarrassing and ignominious.

i'm going to touch myself in a shameful way and them go to bed.

 

[MechaBlade]

i'm tired of this clinical language "masturbation," "orgasm," "clitoris." i want dirty and embarrassing and ignominious.

i'm going to touch myself in a shameful way and them go to bed.

Have fun massaging your vulva.

 

[naughtygirl69s]

i'll sometimes get something similar just before i start bleeding, but not exactly the same. i think those are just from general swelling and sensitivity and then there are only one or two now and again.

the ones lately have been more like a stream of energy exiting me and causing pleasant sensations as a by product.

ahhh, I understand what you mean....I've gotten this. My orgasms are usually the day I ovulate, or the day before I start.

as far as my clit size goes...it's average.

I totally know what you mean olivia, I think that is how I am, too, only I've not yet learned to cum from penetration. I prefer to hump something, and it's that humping motion that gets me off.

did somebody say "VULVA MASSAGE"
https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=417545

 

[rosco rathbone]

i'm tired of this clinical language "masturbation," "orgasm," "clitoris." i want dirty and embarrassing and ignominious.

i'm going to touch myself in a shameful way and them go to bed.

Interesting. Can female masturbation be ignominious? We are on the tail end of a public relations campaign begun by the feminists in the 1970s to convince us that women, their masturbations and orgams are all rainbows, unicorns, and good normal clean healthy fun with no one getting hurt.

I've been making a case for the duration of this thread that the male orgam is vile and spiteful. Perhaps the pendulum is about to swing for the other team.

 

[Hester]

Interesting. Can female masturbation be ignominious? We are on the tail end of a public relations campaign begun by the feminists in the 1970s to convince us that women, their masturbations and orgams are all rainbows, unicorns, and good normal clean healthy fun with no one getting hurt.

I've been making a case for the duration of this thread that the male orgam is vile and spiteful. Perhaps the pendulum is about to swing for the other team.

of course it can be.

 

[Recidiva]

Interesting. Can female masturbation be ignominious? We are on the tail end of a public relations campaign begun by the feminists in the 1970s to convince us that women, their masturbations and orgams are all rainbows, unicorns, and good normal clean healthy fun with no one getting hurt.

I've been making a case for the duration of this thread that the male orgam is vile and spiteful. Perhaps the pendulum is about to swing for the other team.

I'm not a feminist if only because the basics of feminism include the idea that women are better than men. I don't believe that at all.

Equality would be nice in certain arenas where we're not apples and oranges, but there are many places where we just have no idea.

It might completely intend on whether or not fantasy itself makes you feel vile or spiteful. Since it's fantasy, for me it's like watching a movie or reading a book. I'm probably not interested in going there.

I certainly can have an orgasm without any thought or fantasy, just based on the stimulation that's going on, but that's with other people. For myself, alone, if I'm heading for an orgasm I'll surely use thought as a spur. Sometimes vile, sometimes spiteful, sometimes unicorns, sometimes rainbows. But since that's all really a fantasy and it's the sensation that does it, ultimately we're really dealing with friction. Brain friction and body friction.

Certainly it can be ignominious, it really depends completely on what turns the individual on and in what combination. Everyone's got a different recipe.

 

[Hester]

i dreamt about you jacking feckers last night, especially olivia.

everyone was walking around with their siglines exposed.

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

I'm not a feminist if only because the basics of feminism include the idea that women are better than men. I don't believe that at all.

I know that there are pleny of feminists that believe this, but from what I know about the movement, female superiority isn't really a central idea. There's lots of talk about equality and there's been a huge amount of controversy over acknowledging significant inherent differences between men and women for fear that talk about "difference" translates to superiority/inferiority or at least will eventually lead to those judgments.

There's a helluva lot of anger at men in the feminist movement what with men having dominated societies since the rise of agriculture and a sense that the modern world wouldn't be as fucked-up if women had played more of a role in shaping it, but does most feminism really preach female superiority?

How's that for a jack-hijack?

 

[Hester]

I know that there are pleny of feminists that believe this, but from what I know about the movement, female superiority isn't really a central idea. There's lots of talk about equality and there's been a huge amount of controversy over acknowledging significant inherent differences between men and women for fear that talk about "difference" translates to superiority/inferiority or at least will eventually lead to those judgments.

There's a helluva lot of anger at men in the feminist movement what with men having dominated societies since the rise of agriculture and a sense that the modern world wouldn't be as fucked-up if women had played more of a role in shaping it, but does most feminism really preach female superiority?

How's that for a jack-hijack?

i would agree with this, with the anger being a main reason i am loathe to call myself a feminist. you don't build bridges and alliances with anger and resentment.

i also don't think feminist thought precludes the admission of biological differences. those differences shouldn't determine rights or opportunities but they exist and shouldn't be dismissed out of fear.

 

[stirbird]

I think feminism strongly endorses the ages-old myth of female emotional and moral superiority.

 

[Recidiva]

I know that there are pleny of feminists that believe this, but from what I know about the movement, female superiority isn't really a central idea. There's lots of talk about equality and there's been a huge amount of controversy over acknowledging significant inherent differences between men and women for fear that talk about "difference" translates to superiority/inferiority or at least will eventually lead to those judgments.

There's a helluva lot of anger at men in the feminist movement what with men having dominated societies since the rise of agriculture and a sense that the modern world wouldn't be as fucked-up if women had played more of a role in shaping it, but does most feminism really preach female superiority?

How's that for a jack-hijack?

That's my experience as well. I don't have anger at men, and "feminism" can be a safe place to be mad and justify your anger because women are "better"

I think the idea that men have dominated history isn't accurate. It's a whitewashing of history and of a woman's role.

In my point of view, the ability to give birth and raise children is such a huge part of feminine experience, which has been denigrated hugely by the "feminist" movement, that they managed to damage women and men.

Have a kid, figure out why women in history have done that and had that be enough for an accomplishment in their lives. Most of history valued women as sacred lifegivers. Only recently has that changed, and even then only for a few who are interested in public accomplishment versus private satisfaction.

Surely, women's roles were limited in history, but so were men's.

If you don't want kids, mostly because you think they're a "trap men put upon women" then I feel sorry for you. It's a big deal. To me, that's what life's about.

I wasn't taught this. Born in the swing of feminism, all "motherly" tasks were denigrated to being menial and humiliating and "life stealing" and I can't see that as anything but a negative impact on women's role in family and life. I bought it for a little while, but then through having kids saw how damaging my own attitude toward motherhood had been, and how wrong.

 

[Hester]

I think feminism strongly endorses the ages-old myth of female emotional and moral superiority.

how so?

 

[Hester]

If you don't want kids, mostly because you think they're a "trap men put upon women" then I feel sorry for you. It's a big deal. To me, that's what life's about.

I wasn't taught this. Born in the swing of feminism, all "motherly" tasks were denigrated to being menial and humiliating and "life stealing" and I can't see that as anything but a negative impact on women's role in family and life. I bought it for a little while, but then through having kids saw how damaging my own attitude toward motherhood had been, and how wrong.

my mother was a feminist and activist. she was a good, nurturing mother, went to great lengths to be such, and never found it counter to her feminism. there was also never any female superiority or male hatred that i saw.

maybe she was different, but the face of feminism i saw as a child of the 60s and 70s was nurturing, loving, and mainly interested in obtaining rights an opportunities.

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

I think feminism strongly endorses the ages-old myth of female emotional and moral superiority.

That's a really interesting and subversive idea. That feminism somehow embodies ancient patriarchical values within it.

Heavy. We need to make this its own thread to make way for jackin'.

 

[Hester]

That's a really interesting and subversive idea. That feminism somehow embodies ancient patriarchical values within it.

Heavy. We need to make this its own thread to make way for jackin'.

i think of this as a form or mental masturbation

 

[Recidiva]

my mother was a feminist and activist. she was a good, nurturing mother, went to great lengths to be such, and never found it counter to her feminism. there was also never any female superiority or male hatred that i saw.

maybe she was different, but the face of feminism i saw as a child of the 60s and 70s was nurturing, loving, and mainly interested in obtaining rights an opportunities.

In my experience, she was different. I think feminism has been negatively impacted in a huge sense by groups that have an axe to grind and will get behind it in a way to get back at men as a group.

I can accept that this may not be their stated original goals, but it's certainly been a very visible aspect of it.

 

[stirbird]

But if you could only have mental masturbation without physical intercourse or physical masturbation without mental intercourse, which would you choose?

 

[Recidiva]

We can take it to my thread if you'd like. I'm easy

 

[Recidiva]

But if you could only have mental masturbation without physical intercourse or physical masturbation without mental intercourse, which would you choose?

I think my brain just got very sad. "No, mommy, no, don't let the bad person say that, it makes us cry!"

 

[stirbird]

how so?

In a lot of the writings there is an emphasis on men as morally inferior, brutal, simplistic, easy to "housetrain" or manipulate, interested in only one or two things, beasts, etc. whereas women are whole humans, wide-spectrum, more subtle, more intuitive, more emotionally aware, sophisticated (aka more intelligent), etc. If that doesn't sound familar, I can dig up some links to writings, probably.

 

[stirbird]

I think my brain just got very sad. "No, mommy, no, don't let the bad person say that, it makes us cry!"

It is an evil idea, isn't it?

 

[Hester]

But if you could only have mental masturbation without physical intercourse or physical masturbation without mental intercourse, which would you choose?

death

 

[Recidiva]

It is an evil idea, isn't it?

I'd have to choose physical. I have faith in my body. My brain just detached from my skull, though, in protest.

 

[pinkladyzz11]

I just want my own.....

penis...cause it looks like it would be more fun to play with when I masturbate.

 

[Recidiva]

penis...cause it looks like it would be more fun to play with when I masturbate.

I have one! I have one!

Okay, it's attached to my husband.