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It's NOT ok.

It's not okay for a man who can't see his dick without a mirror to say a woman would be much hotter if she lost that little belly she has.
 
This was on Dear Cupid:


(OP in RED, Me in Black) I have been seeing this really nice guy for the past 4 months. His "niceness" is starting to bother me, in that I find him to be not as masculine as I'd like him to be. He is the type who always has a smile on his face, who is always polite, helpful, and generous. For some reason though, the nicer he is the more turned off I become. I feel that he won't be able to protect me because he isn't intimidating on the outside. Am I just being completely ridiculous? He genuinely cares about me and is a very sincere person. I keep comparing him to my ex boyfriend of two years, who was very manly but was a little overbearing at times.

Does any other woman share my feelings towards a genuinely nice man?

You equate politeness as weakness.

You equate niceness as femininity.

Holding onto antiquated gender roles isn't going to get you anywhere in a relationship. It's time to let go of outdated standards of what a "real man" is and appreciate him for who he is, not some ridiculous standard of "real masculinity".

Intimidating people do that due to fear of being hurt. Preemptive aggression is a shield for intense vulnerability. Those are not truly masculine traits, those are defense mechanisms of the weak-willed and cowardly.

Your boyfriend is strong enough and comfortable enough with himself to be kind. To let down his guard and smile. Because he KNOWS in his heart that he's a good man. A REAL MAN. That's a good thing, not something you should look down on.

I really hope that you start opening your eyes to how the world really works. Feminists fought to get women equal rights to men, to be treated equally as human beings. Holding him to obsolete masculinity standards would be as ridiculous as him complaining that you can vote and you're not barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.
 
Ropebunny said:
Oh, but it is! Sometimes extra cries are needed to feel funtional again and I find that I do a shitty job of the dishes if I'm trying to hold back tears.
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But if you cry while you're doing the dishes, it's not okay to leave salty teartracks on the clean ones. ;)
 
satindesire said:
This was on Dear Cupid:


(OP in RED, Me in Black) I have been seeing this really nice guy for the past 4 months. His "niceness" is starting to bother me, in that I find him to be not as masculine as I'd like him to be. He is the type who always has a smile on his face, who is always polite, helpful, and generous. For some reason though, the nicer he is the more turned off I become. I feel that he won't be able to protect me because he isn't intimidating on the outside. Am I just being completely ridiculous? He genuinely cares about me and is a very sincere person. I keep comparing him to my ex boyfriend of two years, who was very manly but was a little overbearing at times.

Does any other woman share my feelings towards a genuinely nice man?

You equate politeness as weakness.

You equate niceness as femininity.

Holding onto antiquated gender roles isn't going to get you anywhere in a relationship. It's time to let go of outdated standards of what a "real man" is and appreciate him for who he is, not some ridiculous standard of "real masculinity".

Intimidating people do that due to fear of being hurt. Preemptive aggression is a shield for intense vulnerability. Those are not truly masculine traits, those are defense mechanisms of the weak-willed and cowardly.

Your boyfriend is strong enough and comfortable enough with himself to be kind. To let down his guard and smile. Because he KNOWS in his heart that he's a good man. A REAL MAN. That's a good thing, not something you should look down on.

I really hope that you start opening your eyes to how the world really works. Feminists fought to get women equal rights to men, to be treated equally as human beings. Holding him to obsolete masculinity standards would be as ridiculous as him complaining that you can vote and you're not barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.
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Amen, Sister.

Seems to me that she needs to consider the idea that maybe she just isn't into that particular nice guy. But not rule nice guys out in general.
 
Scheherazade73 said:
Amen, Sister.

Seems to me that she needs to consider the idea that maybe she just isn't into that particular nice guy. But not rule nice guys out in general.
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I just don't understand where the "I get turned off when a man is polite and respectful" thing comes from. At ALL.
 
satindesire said:
You know what's not okay?

THIS:

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=42210362&postcount=183
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Holy fucking shit.

I hereby propose a new gender: Asshole.
  • The physical requirements are: none.
  • Mental requirements: agree with more than .000001% of anything BotanyBoy and/or Once-ler said. Or say.
  • Psycho-social requirements: agree with more than .000001% of anything BotanyBoy and/or Once-ler said. Or say.
I'm sorry you were exposed to those assholes claiming to be men. I'm sorry you were exposed to those assholes claiming to be humans. They are neither.

BTW, .000001% is one-millionth of one percent, or the equivalent of a very tiny fraction of one of the periods in their posts. Just in case anyone had a brief thought that I was suggesting that they had said something I would agree with.
 
satindesire said:
I just don't understand where the "I get turned off when a man is polite and respectful" thing comes from. At ALL.
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No. Me neither. I am not turned on by assholes. I don't find that charming, although a shocking number of women do...
 
Sir_Winston54 said:
Holy fucking shit.

I hereby propose a new gender: Asshole.
  • The physical requirements are: none.
  • Mental requirements: agree with more than .000001% of anything BotanyBoy and/or Once-ler said. Or say.
  • Psycho-social requirements: agree with more than .000001% of anything BotanyBoy and/or Once-ler said. Or say.
I'm sorry you were exposed to those assholes claiming to be men. I'm sorry you were exposed to those assholes claiming to be humans. They are neither.

BTW, .000001% is one-millionth of one percent, or the equivalent of a very tiny fraction of one of the periods in their posts. Just in case anyone had a brief thought that I was suggesting that they had said something I would agree with.
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I cannot understand how a man's life can go SO WRONG, SO BADLY that they develop this seething sexual hatred towards women. Like, what trauma is that bad that you discount 51% of the population of the planet to inhuman status?

Sir_Winston54 said:
I don't either... but I have to admit that I've been given that excuse before. <Sigh>
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I'm sorry honey *hugs*

Scheherazade73 said:
No. Me neither. I am not turned on by assholes. I don't find that charming, although a shocking number of women do...
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I think they get some idea like this asshole is just some edgy cool guy that'll always have something clever to say, like Dr. House or something.

In the end, they all find out that assholes aren't clever. They're just assholes. :D
 
Just wanna tell the people who don't know- that I'm Candicame so you can see how incredibly ridiculous the prev claims on this thread are.
 
Once-ler said:
Just wanna tell the people who don't know- that I'm Candicame so you can see how incredibly ridiculous the prev claims on this thread are.
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Claims?

They're your words that you wrote on your own name. I didn't claim a damn thing that you didn't write yourself. I'm surprised you're here defending your misogyny. If you're right, your words should need no defense.

If you're in the right, and women DO deserve to be sexually harassed for wearing revealing clothing, and there IS nothing wrong with sexual harassment or sexual assault and all us hysterical women should just shut up because we don't live in the Sudan and aren't ritualistically raped, you wouldn't be here trying to defend yourself and make out like I'm a liar.

They can read what you and BotonyBoy wrote and decide on their own. :D
 
satindesire said:
Claims?

They're your words that you wrote on your own name. I didn't claim a damn thing that you didn't write yourself. I'm surprised you're here defending your misogyny. If you're right, your words should need no defense.

If you're in the right, and women DO deserve to be sexually harassed for wearing revealing clothing, and there IS nothing wrong with sexual harassment or sexual assault and all us hysterical women should just shut up because we don't live in the Sudan and aren't ritualistically raped, you wouldn't be here trying to defend yourself and make out like I'm a liar.

They can read what you and BotonyBoy wrote and decide on their own. :D
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Yeah they can.

But the reason that it's funny for this part of the thread rather then the gb is because of my giant subness. That kind of makes my apparent "sexism" even more hilarious.

I'm sorry that you don't know the difference between a compliment and harassment. I really am. It must make your life very sad. But that's no reason to blast someone for advocating for real rape victims just because you like to pretend that you're being oppressed. It's getting old.

I do vanity searches all the time and my name came up in this thread. I thought I'd go see what it was about and I'm not shocked to find you here as well. :rolleyes:
 
Once-ler said:
Yeah they can.

But the reason that it's funny for this part of the thread rather then the gb is because of my giant subness. That kind of makes my apparent "sexism" even more hilarious.
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That made no sense.

Once-ler said:
I'm sorry that you don't know the difference between a compliment and harassment. I really am. It must make your life very sad.
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I have fully well detailed that I know the difference between a compliment and harassment. I've said on multiple posts that there is a difference. Unfortunately, you and BotonyBoy are the ones having the problems distinguishing between the two.

"Hey sexy ass baby, wanna fuck?" Is not a compliment.

"You look beautiful today." Is.

Once-ler said:
But that's no reason to blast someone for advocating for real rape victims just because you like to pretend that you're being oppressed. It's getting old.
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Again, with the exaggeration and lies to try and make ME look like the bad guy. Again, your words that you typed yourself are there for all to see. I like how you're trying to turn this topic into "You don't care about real rape victims you bad bad person!", though, that's a good try at a distraction. Unfortunately, I've never even implied that I had an issue with people advocating for rape victims. You weren't advocating for rape victims, though, you clearly stated multiple times that since women in America aren't being ritualistically raped, we should stop being "whiny bitches" (your words!) about sexual harassment.

Once again, I haven't played a victim (unlike your three posts detailing your victimization), I've spoken in general terms for "women" and "Females" all over the world, so your arguments are false to try and take the blame from your own misogyny and asshole behavior in an attempt to pin this on me.
 
Once-ler said:
Now you can call me an asshole, after you've read what I actually said. In context.

Or you know, not. Free country and all that.

*shrugs*
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"...overreaction creates the rape culture."

You FUCKING ROCK!!! YES!! I love that! It's like I've been saying for years: it's the overuse of umbrellas that causes all this fucking rain.
 
satindesire said:
That made no sense.




I have fully well detailed that I know the difference between a compliment and harassment. I've said on multiple posts that there is a difference. Unfortunately, you and BotonyBoy are the ones having the problems distinguishing between the two.

"Hey sexy ass baby, wanna fuck?" Is not a compliment.

"You look beautiful today." Is.



Again, with the exaggeration and lies to try and make ME look like the bad guy. Again, your words that you typed yourself are there for all to see. I like how you're trying to turn this topic into "You don't care about real rape victims you bad bad person!", though, that's a good try at a distraction. Unfortunately, I've never even implied that I had an issue with people advocating for rape victims. You weren't advocating for rape victims, though, you clearly stated multiple times that since women in America aren't being ritualistically raped, we should stop being "whiny bitches" (your words!) about sexual harassment.

Once again, I haven't played a victim (unlike your three posts detailing your victimization), I've spoken in general terms for "women" and "Females" all over the world, so your arguments are false to try and take the blame from your own misogyny and asshole behavior in an attempt to pin this on me.
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You're either purposefully rude or just... sad. This is not about you. I dislike being called things that i am not. Therefore, I listed a link to the entire thread. That, you know, you got laughed out of. So people can see how full of shit you are. Believe me, it doesn't take any 'twisting' to make you look like the bad guy.
 
DeepGreenEyes said:
"...overreaction creates the rape culture."

You FUCKING ROCK!!! YES!! I love that! It's like I've been saying for years: it's the overuse of umbrellas that causes all this fucking rain.
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So you don't think that teaching women to live by a schedual based on a fear of something that doesn't happen is the opposite of empowering? You really think it's a good idea to tell them that they're second-class citizens who shouldn't walk down an alley at night instead of focusing on the more common types of rape, like child abuse and domestic violence?

Or do you just want a soundbite that you think sounds witty?
 
Once-ler said:
You're either purposefully rude or just... sad. This is not about you. I dislike being called things that i am not. Therefore, I listed a link to the entire thread. That, you know, you got laughed out of. So people can see how full of shit you are. Believe me, it doesn't take any 'twisting' to make you look like the bad guy.
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Laughed out of? By alts and people who get off on trying to be as rude as possible to other people online? By people who completely discount half the population of the earth as subhuman, and treat them thusly?

I'm here brave enough posting with my own pictures, my own identity, with no fear of the repercussions of my words. 90% of the people in the GB can't even claim a quarter of the balls it takes to stand up to misogyny and sexism without hiding behind a false identity.

Once-ler said:
So you don't think that teaching women to live by a schedual based on a fear of something that doesn't happen is the opposite of empowering? You really think it's a good idea to tell them that they're second-class citizens who shouldn't walk down an alley at night instead of focusing on the more common types of rape, like child abuse and domestic violence?

Or do you just want a soundbite that you think sounds witty?
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That's just the thing. NO ONE has advocated that. I've been the voice of moderation and sense the whole time. Unfortunately, you and BotonyBoy have no sense of a happy medium...everything has to be so extreme. It's either sexual harassment or nothing. It's either living in fear or accepting sexual harassment/assault as the norm.

There is a happy medium, and that's been more than clearly advocated here. Again, you're the one who cannot grasp that there is more to life than blacks and whites.
 
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satindesire said:
Laughed out of? By alts and people who get off on trying to be as rude as possible to other people online? By people who completely discount half the population of the earth as subhuman, and treat them thusly?

I'm here brave enough posting with my own pictures, my own identity, with no fear of the repercussions of my words. 90% of the people in the GB can't even claim a quarter of the balls it takes to stand up to misogyny and sexism without hiding behind a false identity.




That's just the thing. NO ONE has advocated that. I've been the voice of moderation and sense the whole time. Unfortunately, you and BotonyBoy have no sense of a happy medium...everything has to be so extreme. It's either sexual harassment or nothing. It's either living in fear or accepting sexual harassment/assault as the norm.

There is a happy medium, and that's been more than clearly advocated here. Again, you're the one who cannot grasp that there is more to life than blacks and whites.
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You really are insane, aren't you? You said literally the exact opposite of that on the forum. That's why there were other women who called you out. That is EXACTLY what you were advocating and EXACTLY what I was trying to get you not to do. If you somehow magically started believing that because you realized you were wrong or somehow contorted it around in your head that that's what you were saying the entire time, then, my work is done.
 
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