Is The Draft Coming Back?

[Le Jacquelope]

Hey does anyone notice that NONE OF THESE RETARDED DRAFT SUPPORTERS have any actual military experience, and that not one of them are in Iraq right now?

It's nice to preach about being forced into involuntary military servitude and certain death overseas if you'll never be called on yourself.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

You flaming cowards are scared shitless to talk shit to this draft dodger...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/2...idjrIs__8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-

The Champ Meets the Chump

Dave ZirinFri Nov 18, 6:15 PM ET

The Nation -- The presidency of George W. Bush is collapsing under the weight of its own incompetence. The polls speak for themselves--only 35 percent of us approve of his job performance. Fifty-six percent--including one in four Republicans--say the war in Iraq was not worth fighting, and more than half believe Bush intentionally misled the country to bring the United States into war. The response from the White House has been grimly predictable: Admit no mistakes and spin, slash or burn your critics. On Monday Bush seethed, "Only one person manipulated evidence and misled the world--and that person was Saddam Hussein." (Funny, I didn't know we were being "led" by Saddam Hussein.) Bush went on to accuse opponents of rewriting the past. But this Administration, which has redefined the word "Orwellian" for a new generation, respects history about as much as it respects the Geneva Conventions. In fact, they seem to relish assaulting and rewriting history for sheer sport.

This was seen quite clearly on November 9, when Bush hung a medal around the slack, immobile neck of former heavyweight boxing champion--and the most famous war resister in US history--Muhammad Ali. Ali was one of a bevy of recipients of the Presidential Medal of Freedom at a White House ceremony. Bush, while Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld chuckled behind him, said, "Only a few athletes are ever known as the greatest in their sport, or in their time. But when you say, 'The Greatest of All Time' is in the room, everyone knows who you mean. It's quite a claim to make, but as Muhammad Ali once said, 'It's not bragging if you can back it up.' And this man backed it up.... The real mystery, I guess, is how he stayed so pretty. [Laughter.] It probably had to do with his beautiful soul. He was a fierce fighter and he's a man of peace."

As I watched a video of the ceremony posted on the White House website, it was heartbreaking to see Bush, a chicken-hearted man of empire, bathe himself in Ali's glow and rhapsodize about "peace." To see the once-indomitable Ali, besieged by Parkinsons and dementia, eyes filmed over, hands shaking, led around by a self-described "war President" felt horrifying.

About the only thing Bush and Ali have in common is that they both moved mountains to stay out of Vietnam. The difference, of course, was while Ali sacrificed his title and risked years in federal prison, Bush joined the country club otherwise known as the Texas National Guard, showing up for duty every time he had a dentist appointment. But the Champ still had one last rope-a-dope up his sleeve. As a playful Bush moved in front of Ali, he apparently thought it would be cute to put up his fists in a boxing stance. Ali leaned back and made a circular motion around his temple, as if the President must be crazy to want to tangle with him even now.

This moment recalled the Ali who was never so beloved, so cuddly, so harmless. This was a fleeting glimpse of the Ali who once was able to say things that would have made John Ashcroft demand a federally funded exorcism. This was the Ali who said, "I ain't no Christian. I can't be when I see all the colored people fighting for forced integration get blown up. They get hit by the stones and chewed by dogs and then these crackers blow up a Negro church.... People are always telling me what a good example I would be if I just wasn't Muslim. I've heard over and over why couldn't I just be more like Joe Louis and Sugar Ray [Robinson]. Well, they are gone and the black man's condition is just the same, ain't it? We're still catching hell."

Back then, Ali could level criticism about an ill-advised, unfair war: "Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No, I'm not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality.... If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people, they wouldn't have to draft me, I'd join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I'll go to jail, so what? We've been in jail for 400 years."

If Ali had said things like that today about our current war, it would have earned him not not a medal but a one-way trip to Gitmo.

As the great poet Sonia Sanchez remembered Ali's golden era, "It's hard now to relay the emotion of that time. This was still a time when hardly any well-known people were resisting the draft. It was a war that was disproportionately killing young black brothers, and here was this beautiful, funny poetical young man standing up and saying no! Imagine it for a moment! The heavyweight champion, a magical man, taking his fight out of the ring and into the arena of politics and standing firm. The message was sent!"

Perhaps a far more fitting and true tribute to Ali was on display at an antiwar demonstration last month, where an older woman of African descent held up a sign that read simply, "No Iraqi ever left me to die on a roof." This was a direct reference to a quote attributed to Ali that "no Vietnamese ever called me 'nigger.' " Both statements in a few short words encompass both the anger and internationalism so needed today. These are statements not of pacifism but of the struggle to end war. This is the Ali that they can never bury--not even under the pall of devastating illness and a mountain of cheap medals.

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[bill-pix-trade]

The draft boards are looking for new members. They haven't done that since we actually had a draft during Viet Nam.


Beware Bush.

http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/sss092203.html

I weather stripped we are good for the winter.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I weather stripped we are good for the winter.

Hey Bill, take a look at this thread. Notice how all the people who call me irrational have a track record right here of gross irrationalities, threats, and wrong headedness?

No one has ever apologized for the lies, threats and bigotry they showed here.

This is why I laugh whenever anyone on here talks about rationality.

 

[MakersandIce]

And I'll say again - I'll never let anyone force me to fight in a war I don't think is just. If there is a draft I'll help people dodge.. and I'd love to see you gutless freaks try to stop me.

And I'd love to see the next terror attack on US soil take you out.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Hey Bill, take a look at this thread. Notice how all the people who call me irrational have a track record right here of gross irrationalities, threats, and wrong headedness?

No one has ever apologized for the lies, threats and bigotry they showed here.

This is why I laugh whenever anyone on here talks about rationality.

Bill's outrage is situational.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

And I'd love to see the next terror attack on US soil take you out.

And I'd love to see your family taken out by a hurricane.

I wish I lived nearby. I'd feed your next of kin to my dogs. On national TV. Just to show you what I really think of you. Bring on the FBI, I don't give a shit. No price would be too much to pay for capturing that moment forever, LOL!!!

 

[bill-pix-trade]

Hey Bill, take a look at this thread. Notice how all the people who call me irrational have a track record right here of gross irrationalities, threats, and wrong headedness?

No one has ever apologized for the lies, threats and bigotry they showed here.

This is why I laugh whenever anyone on here talks about rationality.

Maybe you are right, and maybe that should change. There is plenty of time for people to change.

 

[MakersandIce]

And I'd love to see your family taken out by a hurricane.

It would have to move a helluva long ways inland.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

It would have to move a helluva long ways inland.

Oh I forgot. Every time you open your mouth, it's instant tornado season. Sillyme. Keep yapping and you might kill your own family. Sweet! Darwin in action!

 

[bill-pix-trade]

And I'd love to see the next terror attack on US soil take you out.

Is that really the way you feel?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Maybe you are right, and maybe that should change. There is plenty of time for people to change.

They'd have to admit they're wrong. No one can do that.


What you learn from this thread is that limits to personal behavior only exist in your own mind. Most people don't care about rules, they only care about what they'll get busted for.

 

[bill-pix-trade]

They'd have to admit they're wrong. No one can do that.


What you learn from this thread is that limits to personal behavior only exist in your own mind. Most people don't care about rules, they only care about what they'll get busted for.

No they have to admit that they were wrong for what they said to you personaly, not wrong about their Ideas. There is a difference.

Now It is time for pancakes.

 

[MakersandIce]

Is that really the way you feel?

I hope there is never another foreign attack on American soil, but if something like that were to happen, who better for it to happen to than a man who freely admits that he is against having a system in place for the continued defense of America?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I hope there is never another foreign attack on American soil, but if something like that were to happen, who better for it to happen to than a man who freely admits that he is against having a system in place for the continued defense of America?

Behold the art of pure idiocy.

Without enslaving countless thousands of males against their will, America has no system in place for its continued defense.

MakersandIce, you are by far the dumbest fuckturd that has ever lived.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

No they have to admit that they were wrong for what they said to you personaly, not wrong about their Ideas. There is a difference.

Now It is time for pancakes.

But the GB prides itself on its "rationality". What was said in here by a great many self proclaimed upstanding GBers contradicts every basic concept of rationality.

 

[MakersandIce]

Without enslaving countless thousands of males against their will, America has no system in place for its continued defense.

Females, as well as males should be drafted for service. Who gives a fuck about their will? As a citizen of this country, to enjoy its benefits, ALL citizens should have to serve a period of time. If this violates their will, deport the fuckers.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Females, as well as males should be drafted for service.

But they won't be. There is no infrastructure whatsoever for registering or drafting women, and there's no will to make one. If some dictator forced it upon America - which America at large won't accept - then women will be put in the rear line, back at the office or factory.

It will be men who will be sacrificed. It's always men who die in war. Women will always, for the vast majority part, stay safe at home.

Who gives a fuck about their will?

The American people do. The vast majority of Americans oppose the draft, we the majority will cram our will down your throat at gunpoint if we have to.

Are you big and bad enough to take us all on? Well, are you?

Well then we're going to force our will and you will abide by it. Or you'll be strung up from a tree.

Is that enough incentive for you to take it and smile?

As a citizen of this country, to enjoy its benefits, ALL citizens should have to serve a period of time. If this violates their will, deport the fuckers.

Go ahead and try.

If a draft comes I won't wait for your blowhard tornado or a hurricane. I'll be there hunting you down. I hope you pray a lot. You never know what'll happen when you step out onto that porch or turn that ignition key. And certainly you don't know what'll be in your tap water.

There's absolutely no limit to what I will do to kill every draft enforcer I see. Including hanging their children by their entrails from trees as a warning to others.

Not too many people are as itchy to kill someone as I am over this, but rest assured: a draft today would result in a very bloody civil war with you as the minority.

You want to talk about force, bitch? I'll show you all about force.

You don't like what I have to say? Kiss my ass. But don't force your will on me. Don't ever try that.

 

[MakersandIce]

<snip all the drivel>

You don't deserve America or to be called an American. For one who so readily quotes the constitution, you seem to forget the passage that empowers Congress to "raise armies."

 

[Le Jacquelope]

You don't deserve America or to be called an American. For one who so readily quotes the constitution, you seem to forget the passage that empowers Congress to "raise armies."

Enough words, chickenshit. Bring it, if you think you can force anything on the the anti-draft MAJORITY in America.

We will raise an army to put your sorry ass down.

I hope you have a bomb shelter. You're gonna need it.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Bump, so bisexplicit can see all the draft supporting idiots on the GB...

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Bump, so the current GBers can see just how intolerant and crazy the military / right wing crowd really is.

 

[phrodeau]

Enough words, chickenshit. Bring it, if you think you can force anything on the the anti-draft MAJORITY in America.

We will raise an army to put your sorry ass down.

I hope you have a bomb shelter. You're gonna need it.

How will you do that - draft them?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

How will you do that - draft them?

Won't need to.

As angry as the majority of Americans will be, there'll be people stampeding to kill MWG and her family and the families of all the other draft supporters.

The problem is that there won't be enough targets for everyone to kill.

 

[Cade Is Here]

The draft boards are looking for new members. They haven't done that since we actually had a draft during Viet Nam.


Beware Bush.

http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/sss092203.html

And who do they usually pick when they draft...tell me Lt!!!