Is "equal protection under the law" a complete and total lie?

[Le Jacquelope]

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While I'm sure you have a very committed and fulfilling relationship with your hand, I'm pretty sure you won't be allowed to get married to it.

You've used that joke once on someone else today already... isn't it time to come up with some new fabrication?

BTW you owe my chihuahua child support.

 

[Lovin Tongue]

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You've used that joke once on someone else today already... isn't it time to come up with some new fabrication?

BTW you owe my chihuahua child support.

The irony is killing me.

 

[WARMACH1NE]

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The irony is killing me.

Why does LT scare the fuck out of you?

 

[Peregrinator]

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1)Outraged to the nth degree.

2)I'm hoping this beast of hypocritical sexism is slain before it decides one day that it wants to kick me around. By then it might be too late.

3)Pastor Niemoeller is my role model.


4)That's like saying Mt St Helens isn't a deadly volcano because it isn't erupting. The Draft is inactive, it isn't dead. The term "Sword of Damocles" comes to mind, and with Dubya and his Yeehaw style of foreign policy, the fact that this sword hangs over the heads of American men, should be of serious concern.


5)But there are specific homeless shelters for women. Why is that?


6)BTW why is it ok for women to cry about how they're put upon by evil sexist America, but it's wrong for men to point out discrimination? As I said... equality is pretty much a cartoonish joke as I've seen it in action.

1)Why? has the quality or quantity of your life been affected somehow? Have you been screwed by child support laws or affirmative action or the draft? It's admirable to carry this flag for the oppressed, but I have trouble understanding why you do it.

2) Which? The draft? You should enlist and serve for a couple years in a support role, and make yourself immune to the draft.

3) You gotta remind me who that is.

4) I'm no Bush supporter, but he did look into the camera and promise there would be no draft during his administration. I agree though, that our current foreign policy stance is more likely to create a need for one. Btw, nice usage of the Sword Of Damocles.

5) Because they are far more likely to be victimized by other residents of homeless shelters, and far more likely to have children with them. There's also demonstrable therapeutic value to putting a survivor of rape or domestic abuse in an environment without the gender of the abuser present. I know that's an inflammatory statement, but it's based on five years of work in residential treatment and lots of research on my part. Sorry I can't package it as a neat link, but I hope you'll accept the statement.

6) You've actually seen equality? Where? I don't necessarily believe that is okay...I think that a lot of these movements have gone too far, at least if you listen to the most extreme shrill views expressed. The glass ceiling exists, as does racism; they suck, and they're wrong, but I hate affirmative-action quotas and other such solutions.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

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1)Why? has the quality or quantity of your life been affected somehow? Have you been screwed by child support laws or affirmative action or the draft? It's admirable to carry this flag for the oppressed, but I have trouble understanding why you do it.

Why not? One day I could be one of them. Might as well fight the beast now before it's my turn.

2) Which? The draft? You should enlist and serve for a couple years in a support role, and make yourself immune to the draft.

Why is serving in the military considered a DUTY at all? The United States is part of a shrinking minority of nations that even have the compulsory selective service sign-up, anyway.

3) You gotta remind me who that is.

"First they came for the Jews"...

4) I'm no Bush supporter, but he did look into the camera and promise there would be no draft during his administration. I agree though, that our current foreign policy stance is more likely to create a need for one. Btw, nice usage of the Sword Of Damocles.

I bet more than one Litster would have been shocked to realize I know about that kinda shit.

5) Because they are far more likely to be victimized by other residents of homeless shelters, and far more likely to have children with them. There's also demonstrable therapeutic value to putting a survivor of rape or domestic abuse in an environment without the gender of the abuser present. I know that's an inflammatory statement, but it's based on five years of work in residential treatment and lots of research on my part. Sorry I can't package it as a neat link, but I hope you'll accept the statement.

True that.

The only thing facing men out there in the streets is being stabbed to death and robbed or simply beaten/stabbed to death by passerby gen-X'ers looking for a cheap thrill in an age where killing stray cats is a no-no.

6) You've actually seen equality? Where? I don't necessarily believe that is okay...I think that a lot of these movements have gone too far, at least if you listen to the most extreme shrill views expressed. The glass ceiling exists, as does racism; they suck, and they're wrong, but I hate affirmative-action quotas and other such solutions.

People like Weevil who scream for equal rights on one hand turn the whole cause into a parody when they launch into reactionary tirades (see above) when the subject of sexism comes along.

Feminists want equal rights but at the same time they want to be coddled. I've presented some key examples. You'll notice that they're too ashamed to do anything but send their manservant Weevil to provide what passes as a response. It ain't like I expected otherwise, although you came by and raised the intellectual bar and I appreciate that, it still ain't wise in 2004 to be wanting a baby boy. It won't be a wise choice for the next 50 years. If you want a kid that is going to have less problems and more advantages, you definitely want a girl... see the examples above for why.

 

[Angel]

I didn't realize men needed adequate nutrition while pregnant with their unborn children.

Or while breast feeding.

 

[sharpchick]

Do you guys really think you're ever going to get laid spewing all that servile "chivalrous" bullshit trollage that you're typing up right now?

Amazing. . . .with the font color so light, I almost ran past that blast of egomaniacal bullshit. . . How's that working for you, dude?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Amazing. . . .with the font color so light, I almost ran past that blast of egomaniacal bullshit. . . How's that working for you, dude?

I dunno, I'll see after you ladies send in the next round of emasculated male foot slaves to defend your self perceived inalienable right to special treatment and chivalry and all that bullshit.

 

[Angel]

I didn't realize men needed adequate nutrition while pregnant with their unborn children.

Or while breast feeding.

Well??


This is the "Women" part of WIC. Only to provide nutrition to the child via a woman's body.


Men with children in need are just as eligible for WIC benefits as Women are, aside from the pregnancy/breastfeeding nutrition.

 

[sharpchick]

So LT, I suppose all we "ladies" should just be eternally grovelling with gratitude that we finally earned the right less than 100 years ago not to be considered chattel?

Get a grip man. . . I think the cock ring is too tight and cutting off the circulation to your brain. . .

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Well??


This is the "Women" part of WIC. Only to provide nutrition to the child via a woman's body.


Men with children in need are just as eligible for WIC benefits as Women are, aside from the pregnancy/breastfeeding nutrition.

Sorry to break up your science fiction dream here, but if "men with children in need are just as eligible for WIC benefits as Women are" then why is it called WIC and not something a little more neutral?

This is as laughable as claiming the VAWA also can be used against women who abuse their husbands.

Look, Angel, please, go back to your fucktardly lit together and blow bubbles with honeylick and all the other airheads you've got signed up. The hot air you're blowing through the computer screen is literally floating my house off the foundation.

 

[Peregrinator]

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1)Why not? One day I could be one of them. Might as well fight the beast now before it's my turn.


2)Why is serving in the military considered a DUTY at all? The United States is part of a shrinking minority of nations that even have the compulsory selective service sign-up, anyway.


3)"First they came for the Jews"...


4)I bet more than one Litster would have been shocked to realize I know about that kinda shit.


5)True that.

The only thing facing men out there in the streets is being stabbed to death and robbed or simply beaten/stabbed to death by passerby gen-X'ers looking for a cheap thrill in an age where killing stray cats is a no-no.


6)People like Weevil who scream for equal rights on one hand turn the whole cause into a parody when they launch into reactionary tirades (see above) when the subject of sexism comes along.

7)Feminists want equal rights but at the same time they want to be coddled. I've presented some key examples. You'll notice that they're too ashamed to do anything but send their manservant Weevil to provide what passes as a response. It ain't like I expected otherwise, although you came by and raised the intellectual bar and I appreciate that, it still ain't wise in 2004 to be wanting a baby boy. It won't be a wise choice for the next 50 years. If you want a kid that is going to have less problems and more advantages, you definitely want a girl... see the examples above for why.

1) Yeah, but do you extend and spend your time fighting every conceivable present and future threat to you? Of course not, so how did you decide on this one?

2) Someone has to do it, and everyone benefits from us having a strong military. You may not agree with everything the military does, but you can't have your head so deep in the sand that you think we could just get rid of the military all together. There's no privilege without reponsibility...you have the privilege of a well-defended country.

3) Oh, yeah. Don't know anything but that quote.

4) I don't know about shocked. I haven't heard too many people impugn your education. Their roblems are usually with other stuff.

5) Yeah, or leftover bits of Skylab falling on their heads. C'mon, LT; how often does that actually happen?

6) I don't know Weevil; I agree that some people turn the cause into a parody. Extremism never seems to do a movement any favors in the long run. Whoever it was that said "All sex is rape" did permanent damage to all feminists and their credibility.

Those examples are only part of the picture. Girls still get kicked around plenty, too. You can hope for a baby girl and then stay up all night wondering if some shithead is getting her drunk so he can fuck her. If that happens to a boy, he comes home healthy likely. Btw, I am not at all a feminist. I hate labels, because they allow people to do what you just did...make statements that begin "Feminists want..." and lump them all together. I know a lot of people who call themselves feminists and they certainly don't all want the same things. I'm not sure about the "less problems and more advantages" statement...more research is needed.

 

[Angel]

LT, you don't know what you're talking about.

Walk your happy little ass into your local WIC office and get some information before you run your mouth, because, again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Women who are not pregnant or nursing are eligible to recieve WIC benefits FOR THEIR INFANTS AND CHILDREN (This would be the I.C. part of WIC) up to the age of 5.

Men are eligible to recieve WIC benefits FOR THEIR INFANTS AND CHILDREN (This would be the I.C. part of WIC, yet again) up to the age of 5.


Women who are pregnant or nursing are ONLY eligible for benefits for themselves WHILE THEY ARE PREGNANT OR NURSING to provide nutrition to their children with their bodies. Hence the W part.

 

[Peregrinator]

LT, you don't know what you're talking about.

Walk your happy little ass into your local WIC office and get some information before you run your mouth, because, again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Women who are not pregnant or nursing are eligible to recieve WIC benefits FOR THEIR INFANTS AND CHILDREN (This would be the I.C. part of WIC) up to the age of 5.

Men are eligible to recieve WIC benefits FOR THEIR INFANTS AND CHILDREN (This would be the I.C. part of WIC, yet again) up to the age of 5.


Women who are pregnant or nursing are ONLY eligible for benefits for themselves WHILE THEY ARE PREGNANT OR NURSING to provide nutrition to their children with their bodies. Hence the W part.

I didn't know that Angel. I actually know very little about WIC. makes sense. Does it play out that way in practice?

 

[Angel]

I didn't know that Angel. I actually know very little about WIC. makes sense. Does it play out that way in practice?

Yes, it does - at the very least, in NY.

Those benefits are technically for the kid. No matter which adult is recieving those vouchers, they are to feed the kids - NOT the adult.

The exception is for pregnant/nursing women, and I believe that women receiving WIC continue post-partum, briefly, but not nearly as long as those who choose to breastfeed.

WIC has also provides other services which have been traditionally geared towards single women, but in NY, at least, they've been expanding quite rapidly to even out with single male parents as well, now that their numbers are increasing.

I grew up on WIC, and as an adult, I had to go to all the "training" so I could shop for my mom in her place for the younger kids.

My stepfather received WIC benefits for my step sister for three years, and when my ex got custody of his kid when his ex-wife went to jail, he received WIC benefits as well.

 

[eyesofthedragon]

I dont understand why no one thinks a man could raped it happens more often than one would think. So what about a shelter for them without what ever sex did it to them?

 

[killallhippies]

LT, you don't know what you're talking about.

Walk your happy little ass into your local WIC office and get some information before you run your mouth, because, again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Women who are not pregnant or nursing are eligible to recieve WIC benefits FOR THEIR INFANTS AND CHILDREN (This would be the I.C. part of WIC) up to the age of 5.

Men are eligible to recieve WIC benefits FOR THEIR INFANTS AND CHILDREN (This would be the I.C. part of WIC, yet again) up to the age of 5.


Women who are pregnant or nursing are ONLY eligible for benefits for themselves WHILE THEY ARE PREGNANT OR NURSING to provide nutrition to their children with their bodies. Hence the W part.

in michigan i believe the cutoff age is one for children, but otherwise that all sounds about right. at least my sister's kids stopped getting wic when they turned one.

 

[Angel]

in michigan i believe the cutoff age is one for children, but otherwise that all sounds about right. at least my sister's kids stopped getting wic when they turned one.

Good lord.

 

[killallhippies]

Good lord.

i may be wrong. she may have refused to take any further help for her own reasons. i do remember her bitching about the fact that if she recieved anymore help they'd assign her a social worker and she didn't want that.

 

[eyesofthedragon]

There are several different assistance programs in michigan. Your wic program just morphs name and becomes another program.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

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1) Yeah, but do you extend and spend your time fighting every conceivable present and future threat to you? Of course not, so how did you decide on this one?

Seeing as it affects half the human species and this bigotry is more well defended than the secret recipe for Coca Cola, it was about as hard an issue to notice as, oh, say, a woolly mammoth in a china shop.

2) Someone has to do it, and everyone benefits from us having a strong military. You may not agree with everything the military does, but you can't have your head so deep in the sand that you think we could just get rid of the military all together. There's no privilege without reponsibility...you have the privilege of a well-defended country.

Eliminating selective service is not the same as getting rid of the military. When the US is really under attack, there's no lack of people wanting to sign up. The Draft has only been useful when the US is out engaging in acts of wanton conquest. Hell, the Revolutionary War wasn't even fought with any conscripts. Ronald Ray-gun himself despised the selective service. Modern armed forces around the world shun conscription; the US pretty much stands alone with the selective service in full force and the Draft hanging overhead like a sleeping wraith.

Canada does not see its freedom as inseparable from "the responsibility" of military service, nor does Britain, Australia, France or other modern nations. Which God decided for humanity that conscription was a responsibility?

3) Oh, yeah. Don't know anything but that quote.

"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing. Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me."

4) I don't know about shocked. I haven't heard too many people impugn your education. Their roblems are usually with other stuff.

But they can't attack that directly and save their own credibility, so...

5) Yeah, or leftover bits of Skylab falling on their heads. C'mon, LT; how often does that actually happen?

Homeless people being beaten up? Quite often. Perhaps, however, it doesn't happen as often as other things - such as dying from a disease (cold, pneumonia, etc), or starvation/exposure.

6) I don't know Weevil; I agree that some people turn the cause into a parody. Extremism never seems to do a movement any favors in the long run. Whoever it was that said "All sex is rape" did permanent damage to all feminists and their credibility.

I doubt that. Catherine MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin are bad actors but they don't even light a candle to Maureen Dowd. Dowd has said far worse than they have about men (and not just about sex with men), and just about all the women across the country worship her. She's practically the role model of the 21st century. You oughta read what she says and what women say in praise of her... it ain't purdy.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0F1EFD39590C7A8CDDAE0894DB404482

Or look up "The Incredible Shrinking Y".

Those examples are only part of the picture. Girls still get kicked around plenty, too. You can hope for a baby girl and then stay up all night wondering if some shithead is getting her drunk so he can fuck her.

And if it happens, guess what? The guy spends the rest of his life in prison. Now if she gets him drunk and boffs him then no one in law enforcement's gonna care, even if he files a complaint.

Oops. I'm sorry. Guys would never file a criminal complaint about being drugged into sex, would they?

If that happens to a boy, he comes home healthy likely. Btw, I am not at all a feminist. I hate labels, because they allow people to do what you just did...make statements that begin "Feminists want..." and lump them all together. I know a lot of people who call themselves feminists and they certainly don't all want the same things. I'm not sure about the "less problems and more advantages" statement...more research is needed.

IMO the only legitimate cause for equal rights is humanism. Not black-ism, or feminism, or gay rights-ism. One set of rules for everyone.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I didn't know that Angel. I actually know very little about WIC. makes sense. Does it play out that way in practice?

I'd like to see the law that backs up Angel's rather wild story.

If it exists it should be simple for her, no?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I dont understand why no one thinks a man could raped it happens more often than one would think. So what about a shelter for them without what ever sex did it to them?

You're not honestly hoping for a straight answer to that, are you?

 

[Lovin Tongue]

Wow, LT getting e-bitchslapped again. He can just never get enough.

Angel, you need to take it easy on LT, he still jerks off to those Av pictures of you. He might commit suicide if this keeps up.

 

[TiberiusM]

Being a gentleman has gotten me laid many, many times. Being a dick never has.

I get the most serious feeling that this person is NO gentleman. He's got an axe to grind and anyone who disagrees with him is a target.

Oh. by the way, there currently is NO draft in the USA and the only people to propose such lagislation in this past year are two democrats trying to push the subject for political reason.

Grind your axe elsewhere!

Be well and enjoy!