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[midwestyankee]

Yankee, my dear, you will face better odds pinning Jello to the ceiling than pinning down Box's logic.

Not just any Jello or any ceiling, mind you. We're talking about new Jello Super-Slippery Style®, and the ceiling of a Teflon factory. During an earth tremor. After a service visit by Acme Industrial Ceiling Polishers.

A brilliant effort, though. Good luck with it.

Thanks. I'm willing to discuss issues with anyone, so long as their side of the discussion is based in reality. That's a simple request, don't you think?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Thanks. I'm willing to discuss issues with anyone, so long as their side of the discussion is based in reality. That's a simple request, don't you think?

A simple request?

You're talking to PORN WRITERS! What kind of reality is that?

I always say it's a good thing that Box has such a satisfying hobby...

 

[Guest]

A simple request?

You're talking to PORN WRITERS! What kind of reality is that?

I always say it's a good thing that Box has such a satisfying hobby...

Whistling?

 

[rgraham666]

Define 'reality'.

And Box's logic is easy to follow if you accept his basic political premise; 'liberals are evil.'

 

[Stella_Omega]

Whistling?

Put your lips together and blow!

 

[Guest]

Put your lips together and blow!

Mmmmm.

It sounds so naughty when you say it.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Mmmmm.

It sounds so naughty when you say it.

Well, I'm saying it to you, after all...

 

[Guest]

Well, I'm saying it to you, after all...

Deliciously naughty, then.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I've referred to U. S. Attorney Fitzgerald more than once but that's really neither here nor there. If I'd meant to refer to one of Obama's own attorneys, I'd have said so.

I have looked through this whole thread, and you have made no previous mention of Fitzgerald.

As to "none of us knows if any lobbying took place," then what's the point of this statement that you made recently:

Seems to me that you were suggesting that Team Obama had been lobbying on behalf of Valerie Jarrett. If not, why bother to use the word?

I don't KNOW that any lobbying has taken place. Any such lobbying would probably be oral but, if I look hard enough, I could probably find some. In any event, if there is any lobbying, it would be cronyism, not "Change that we can believe in."

No, Rob, I do not believe that liberals are all evil. Some of them are actually quite kind and generous, which is one of the problems. They try to be kind and generous with other people's assets. I believe social liberals tend to be misguided, expecially the ones sometimes known as "bleeding-heart liberals."

I am quite liberal myself, on such things as gay marriage and freedom of speech/expression and other personal freedoms. I am absolutely opposed to any kind of state sponsored religion, although some right-wing types believe that would be the answer to all national problems. I equally strongly believe in personal responsibility, which is where I depart from most liberals. Some of them believe in virtual cradle-to-grave welfare.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Some of them believe in virtual cradle-to-grave welfare.

*puts chin in hand*

Do tell...

 

[Guest]

. . . I equally strongly believe in personal responsibility, which is where I depart from most liberals. Some of them believe in virtual cradle-to-grave welfare.

Most liberals? There you go again. Spouting opinion as gospel.

You wouldn't know facts if they crawled up and bit you on your ass.

Fuck you, Box.

 

[cloudy]

Most liberals?

Fuck you, Box.

Yeah, most of us liberals don't work for what we have, according to Box.

I'll add my "Fuck you" to Sarah's.

 

[rgraham666]

Box? In my experience the people who talk the most about personal responsibility and are the most hypocritical about it are those who label themselves 'conservative'.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Yeah, most of us liberals don't work for what we have, according to Box.

I'll add my "Fuck you" to Sarah's.

Could you please show me where I said anything even remotely like what you accuse me of saying?

What I said, recently at least, is that some liberals believe in virtual-cradle-to grave welfare.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Box? In my experience the people who talk the most about personal responsibility and are the most hypocritical about it are those who label themselves 'conservative'.

In some ways I am conservative and in some ways I am liberal. What is the hypocrisy you seem to be referring to?

 

[cloudy]

Could you please show me where I said anything even remotely like what you accuse me of saying?

What I said, recently at least, is that some liberals believe in virtual-cradle-to grave welfare.

I don't have the patience to try to nail Jello to the ceiling.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Most liberals? There you go again. Spouting opinion as gospel.

You wouldn't know facts if they crawled up and bit you on your ass.

Fuck you, Box.

I am saying that most liberals do not believe, to the degree that I do, that people should take responsibility for what they do and for their own support and that of their families. There are some people who are unable to help themselves, but there are also some who decline to do so, even though they could.

If a person does a bad thing, I will say: "You did a bad thing." Some liberals will say something like: Although it looks as if you did a bad thing, it wasn't your fault. You are just a victim of society," or some other such nonsense.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
Could you please show me where I said anything even remotely like what you accuse me of saying?

What I said, recently at least, is that some liberals believe in virtual-cradle-to grave welfare.

I'm not stupid enough to try to nail Jello to the ceiling.

Okay. I was sure you wouldn't be able to.

 

[cloudy]

Okay. I was sure you wouldn't be able to.

No, Box. I'll try to say this nicely, but I'm not sure I can. Please understand me clearly: your convoluted way of reasoning is so unrelated to anything resembling reality that no one with even a modicum of intelligence can follow it, thus the nailing Jello reference. I could also compare trying to reason with you to herding cats, and you make just as little sense. You can't even use the quote function correctly, for fuck's sake.

If you don't understand that, I'll have to forget trying to say it nicely.

 

[Guest]

Box - some conservatives routinely abuse their children.

Some conservatives enjoy cheating on their spouses.

Some conservatives have committed murder and gotten away with it.

Some conservatives don't care about starving children in the U.S.

Some conservatives cheer when people lose their homes in foreclosure.

Some conservatives . . .

This is exactly what you do. You pull these sorts of ideas out of your ass and post them as truths.

Generally, they have little to do with the topic being discussed.

You don't win any arguments, people just get tired of pounding their heads against the fucking wall.

 

[Stella_Omega]

If a person does a bad thing, I will say: "You did a bad thing." Some liberals will say something like: Although it looks as if you did a bad thing, it wasn't your fault. You are just a victim of society," or some other such nonsense.

Where did you hear these lines, the Sunday funnies?

 

[cloudy]

I am saying that most liberals do not believe, to the degree that I do, that people should take responsibility for what they do and for their own support and that of their families.

And just where do you get the numbers to back this belief?

Oh, that's right. You just pulled it out of your ass like you do all your other "facts."

Again, fuck you, Box. We've worked very hard for everything we have...harder than you have, I'd wager.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Thanks. I'm willing to discuss issues with anyone, so long as their side of the discussion is based in reality. That's a simple request, don't you think?

It is a simple request. For some reason, some of the persons on this forum say all sorts of negative things about me, because they disagree with me. If I make a statement, they even sometimes accuse me of saying something quite different, such as Cloudy did a little while ago, in a very offensive way. Here is the post I mean:

cloudy Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetsubsarahh
Most liberals?

Fuck you, Box.

Yeah, most of us liberals don't work for what we have, according to Box.

 

[Boxlicker101]

And just where do you get the numbers to back this belief?

Oh, that's right. You just pulled it out of your ass like you do all your other "facts."

Again, fuck you, Box. We've worked very hard for everything we have...harder than you have, I'd wager.

It's pretty much common knowledge. Liberals favor welfare, such as AFDC much more than Conservatives do. In this regard, I am quite conservative, although I am liberal when it comes to personal freedoms.

As for whether you've worked harder than I have, that's very possible. I worked pretty much all my adult life until I retired a few years ago, and I'm reasonably sure you have worked most of your life too.

 

[Stella_Omega]

It's pretty much common knowledge. Liberals favor welfare, such as AFDC much more than Conservatives do. In this regard, I am quite conservative, although I am liberal when it comes to personal freedoms.

As for whether you've worked harder than I have, that's very possible. I worked pretty much all my adult life until I retired a few years ago, and I'm reasonably sure you have worked most of your life too.

And how do you translate "more than conservatives" into " Most don't believe in taking responsibility for oneself (as much as you do)," or even "some liberals believe in cradle to grave welfare?" How is AFDC "cradle to grave" as you put it? Don't tell me, let me guess; Welfare Queens. All those thousands of Welfare Queens, dropping baby after baby like they were M&Ms right?

Oy, Box. You are progressive about personal freedoms, and regressive when it comes to your community. You spout half-truths and recieved wisdoms of forty years ago.