I'll be glad when the election is over.

[A Desert Rose]

Sure, but we can forget about desert rose. She hates exercise. kc might do it, if we promise to whip her before, during, and after.

I beg your pardon... Which one of us bought the bike FIRST?

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Got harness?

I beg your pardon... Which one of us bought the bike FIRST?

Didn't say he'd pedal now did he ...

 

[WriterDom]

I beg your pardon... Which one of us bought the bike FIRST?

Ah, forgot about your bike. Too hot here to ride. Have you been riding?

 

[AngelicAssassin]

ADR ...

Sure, but we can forget about desert rose. She hates exercise.

Here's some incentive.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Ah, forgot about your bike. Too hot here to ride. Have you been riding?

I did the other day.... when I was up around 5 am. It just gets too hot after 8 here.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Re: ADR ...

Here's some incentive.

Oh Criminy... how do you do this???? LOL

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Re: Re: ADR ...

Oh Criminy... how do you do this???? LOL

If i told you ... wicked grin.

WD ... don't kibbitz ADR on the fairways. She's liable to ... (click me).

 

[A Desert Rose]

Re: Re: Re: ADR ...

If i told you ... wicked grin.

WD ... don't kibbitz ADR on the fairways. She's liable to ... (click me).

LMAO...

You know, my short game is pretty good. It's the driving I just can't do very far.

I have these tits that tend to get in the way of a good swing...


What was this thread about again? LOL

AA, you hijacker you!!!

 

[A Desert Rose]

Oh, hold the phone

This is WD's thread.

He won't care. He loves a good time.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Jester rules ...

What was this thread about again? LOL

AA, you hijacker you!!!

Subtle when i wish to be ... http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/363868/2cool2.gif

and wickedly fun.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Topic...

Four famous words: "It's the economy, stupid."

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Now AA chastises me for running on at the mouth but for those of you who'd like a bit more explication than my last post:

12 years ago, Clinton used those words to beat Bush senior.

Clinton took the record deficit Bush senior left us and turned it into a record surplus. During his tenure, we also gained 22 million jobs. As Harry Truman once said, "If you want to live like a Republican, you better vote for the Democrats."

Now, in just 4 short years, Bush junior has magically turned the surplus back into a record deficit again. So, we're overdrawn on our bank account. We also have fewer jobs, and the jobs we do have are at a lower level.

What was that famous question? Ask yourself if you are better off than you were four years ago. Around my house the answer would be, to put it in Dick Cheney language, "FUCK no."

Wonder where the money went? Yes, some of it went to Iraq, but... can you say 'Halliburton'? War profiteering, anybody? And here in California, Enron is not a happy word. How about a little energy shell game and racket -- to screw, who was it they said they were aiming to screw -- Grandma Millie?

Beginning to see a pattern here? If not, let me point out a little happy economic news I ran across in the paper today. Well, happy for somebody.

The American oil industry is doing really well. For instance, Chevron-Texaco is having it's best stretch in its 125 year history. Now isn't that odd that when crude oil prices are up, because of Iraq and such, oil industry PROFITS are also waaaay up? Does that make sense to you?

Guess it helps to have friends in high places.

But for the other 99% of us....

 

[AngelicAssassin]

i wonder if ADR has woke up yet?

 

[WriterDom]

Clinton inherited an improving economy. Bush 2 inherited a recession. The economy and the government aren't that closely intertwined. Except for political purposes. And politics is mostly bullshit anyway. The president is not the Wizard of Oz.



All Kerry has done is burn villages and married rich bags.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

The president is not the Wizard of Oz.

And sure as hell doesn't create the laws that spend your taxes ... http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/363868/5squeeze.gif

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Clinton inherited an improving economy.

"Improving." He inherited the biggest deficit in history up to that point. (GBII created the biggest.)

Bush 2 inherited a recession.

He inherited the biggest surplus in history and turned it into the biggest deficit. Period.

The economy and the government aren't that closely intertwined. Except for political purposes. [/i]

Uh yeah. Just a coincidence. Unless it goes in your direction, eh?

Every time they try 'trickle down' it doesnt work. But then I never was much of a one for watersports.

And politics is mostly bullshit anyway. [/i]

Well, we're not in disagreement there. Or for ADR, who doesn't like double-negs -- we agree.

At least when it comes to non-local.

All Kerry has done is burn villages and married rich bags. [/B]

Part 1 -- Uh, and Bush hasn't? Part 2 -- He didn't have to marry one -- his Is one.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

And sure as hell doesn't create the laws that spend your taxes ... http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/363868/5squeeze.gif

Nope he has his rich friends to do that for him, while they clean out the cookie jar on their way out the door.

Taken a look at the changes in the laws for oil co's lately?

Halliburton's war profiteering doesn't bother you? Seen lately what they're Doing with the money their spending to 'rebuild Iraq'? I'd like to sic a hoard of ravening auditors on the whole bunch of them.

(Remember it was the IRS that brought down Al Capone.)

Btw, I'm completely non-denominational when it comes to thievery. Don't like it on either side of the fence. And while I expect a certain amount of it from politicians and their cronies, the setting of records bothers me.

Especially when, like a whole lot of people in my area, I'm out of work. It's one thing to put your hands in the cookie jar when there's plenty to go around, but when lots of other people are hurting.... Same thing with oil prices. Why the hell should they be making Record Profits when crude oil prices are already up for other reasons, hurting the rest of us even more than we are already? They sure ain't sharing the pain. They are adding to it.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

And for the amusement of those who think we have to be dependent on foreign oil, check out this guy (and his website link) on msnbc:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5465519/



(What would your pick be for fuel? And where the heck do you buy one of his adaptors?)

 

[Phoenix Stone]

All Kerry has done is burn villages....

Oh, you weren't talking about Iraq? You were wanting to fault Kerry for volunteering for active service in Vietnam?

Yeah, little rich boy Kerry volunteered in fact for -- tell me if I'm wrong here, AA -- one of the more dangerous missions of drawing enemy fire down the Mekong Delta.

While little rich boy Bush got his daddy to help him hide in the US, so he, too, could perform a dangerous mission -- driving drunk.



Ps. What annoys me about the two parties is that they base their policies on ideology -- what Should work -- rather than pragmatism -- what Does work. They both put lots of foolish, wasteful and selfish policies into place. Most people are somewhere in the middle and don't care as much about ideology, as they do about their neighbors and families.

We need campaign reform, like the bi-partisan team of McCain and Feingold tried to get passed. (Guess how much luck they had from both major parties.)

 

[WriterDom]

I'd be willing to give the vote this time to only military folks. See how the war hero stacks up against the draft dodger with the people putting their lives on the line.

Would you go along with that, PS?

 

[SubmissiveDove5]

I agree that politics is just a lot of "bullshit" but if the Senate and Congress are the one's who make the laws then they are even more important when the election comes around. If the mojority of the Senate and Congress are Democrat and the President is Republican, there's really not a lot of hope of much getting accomplished. Hey, maybe we should get rid of the executive branch all together!

 

[AngelicAssassin]

tell me if I'm wrong here, AA -- one of the more dangerous missions of drawing enemy fire down the Mekong Delta.

Working as a REMF in Saigon was just as dangerous. i respect any soldier that takes fire. i lose all respect for one that tosses replacement Purple Hearts on the White House lawn instead of the originals. i have a problem with a former soldier that votes as a senator against equipment designed to protect soldiers. i have a problem with a candidate that changes direction in accordance with the latest opinion poll faster than a vane turns into the wind. As for the rest i didn't quote, the current dodger in office, your words, follows in the footsteps of his immediate predecessor.

Most people are somewhere in the middle and don't care as much about ideology, as they do about their neighbors and families.

and we finally agree on something. Pity they won't do most of the voting this next election. More's the pity we have to choose between Crackups and Milkduds.

We need campaign reform, like the bi-partisan team of McCain and Feingold tried to get passed. (Guess how much luck they had from both major parties.)

About zip on both sides of the fence. i actually would like to see McCain and Powell run, either/or for President, and i don't care under which ticket they run. As for getting rid of the executive branch, you might want to redo your civics lessons. Checks and balances ring a bell?

 

[A Desert Rose]

i wonder if ADR has woke up yet?

I'm awake, pal... kinda.

And "here! here!" to your most previous post.

 

[WriterDom]

the current dodger in office, your words, follows in the footsteps of his immediate predecessor.and we finally agree on something.

Bush did fly a jet. Which is a little more dangerous than Al Gore's boy scout trip to Vietnam. Of course Vietnam was all behind us when Clinton ran in '92.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Bush did fly a jet. Which is a little more dangerous than Al Gore's boy scout trip to Vietnam. Of course Vietnam was all behind us when Clinton ran in '92.

And behind Clinton when he didn't inhale at Oxford ... then again, if you can get out of a war on a merit scholarship as poor white trash instead of a silver spoon in your mouth, that makes all the difference ... http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/363868/icon_rolleyes.gif i realize this link fights in favor of Clinton's actions, but i don't find whatever Bushbashers come up with any more "immoral and ... undoubtedly unethical."

Quite frankly, i could care less whether a President serves as a member of the United States Armed Forces, or not. It doesn't bear on my choice to vote for the candidate. You would think after 6~7 years in office occasionally wearing the hat of Commander in Chief, however, someone would advise said CiC that lying to Congress wouldn't win points among the military. We do it, or on any sworn statement, we run the risk of getting dismissed from service under less than honorable conditions as a minimum. We don't have a paid speaker tour to serve as income either.