I wonder why????????

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Would someone please tell me what the logic would be to the following story.

Single mom with kids intends to stay single til the kids are grown. Has done a great job of this and avoided dating just to avoid the possibility of meeting someone that might change her mind.

She screws up and lets her little sis introduce her to a guy. He is wonderful. Nice, polite, with manners every mom would love for her little girl. Does the entire door opening thing all the time. Always does the calling a few days in advance for the date. Asks to include the kiddos and even plans daytime outings with the kids too. Goes to church every Sunday and Wednesday and even took her kids to her church when she had to work one Sunday.

The relationship is going slowly. He fully understands her intent on being single for the kids and not having a man in her house. The few sexual encounters after six months are at his house when her kids are gone so they never know what mom is up to.

Then it gets strange. She has these gut feelings that something is not right. For whatever reason, she dismisses them because after all, there would never be any marriage with this, nor joint checking or cohabitation so why worry about those little things that bother her when after all, dinner a few nights a week is nice and so is the daily phone conversations with an adult who knows that although this is an exclusive relationship dating wise, the boundaries are expected to be held.

He is in the coast guard reserve at 37, and has been since he was 20. Does the one weekend a month and two weeks a year thing. Why a lie about that one? What would be the purpose?

His mother fell a week ago and is in the hospital. Now after his weekend duty at the reserves, he has to find her a rehab home for a few months.

He works odd jobs fixing things and remodeling for friends. That is why he is not always around in the evenings. He has to do this weekend thing every month but they are so kind to let him out early for church and let him come back late afterwards, provided of course he brings back the church bullentin to prove he was really there. He even was so lucky to get out of one weekend for a trip to Promise Keepers even though he is single and without children.

Their sex life has died since he has prostate cancer although he did not tell her, a friend of a friend did and when she asked early in the first month of dating, he did confirm he had it, but was being treated for it. Erections are not possible anymore even with the viagra and it is strange that he is posting ads on websites for strange sexual requests but surely there must be a good reason.

Now there is this impending surgery to remove it because of the unsuccessful treatment of it. But they can't seem to find a time to operate that will allow him to heal before his duty with the coast guard. Each week it is a different reason, no room available at the hospital, wants to do it in another part of the state so the guard doesn't find out, shortage of blood in the blood banks...

After all, should the coast guard find out, he would be discharged with only half the pension after 17 years.

So after the mother who is hospitalized answers her home phone and the nice man at the coast guard office confirms all her intuitions and tells her that the man is lying...

Why does she care?

Not that she will continue with him though, because she has always had those strange feelings about him from the second date. She just always dismissed it because as in the past, she was being accused by friends that she was just looking for reasons not to date. Even when she had decided a month or so ago to stop dating, she allowed him to calm her and slow down more so she would not bolt.

But now what does she do? Confront him and let him squirm while trying to explain? Although the explaination changes nothing, she is still done with him. Does she just block his calls and go on with life?

He has never asked for money, but then again, she would not offer it either, he owns his own home, while she rents a small apartment. She will not let him join her family and he seems content not to as well and has even a time or two said how much he enjoys being single even though he adores her and wants to be with her when she allows it.

But why all the lies for months and the weekends of making excuses when she has caught him home? And why the enormous lie about cancer and lack of erections when he is surely not ill and even seeking sexual relations with strangers off the internet?

As a woman, I think she has a right to confront and let him know he has been caught and see what motivation there was.

Any opinions on this long winded story?
 
Although I had hoped for at least one of the 15 who have read this to comment, I am not surprised. Not one of the "in" crowd with a personal problem so it is not important. Guess forgetting to log in and show my registered nick was a good thing after all.
 
IF you had use your registered name You would have gotten a better responce...PLus most people who see unregisters guest think of TROLLS... and don't want anything to do with them...
 
Sorry just got on the computer :)


Ok... I think she should confront him.... there has to be a reason for his lies and she needs some amount of closure or this could bother her for a while. And if its a stupid reason for lying... then perhaps he needs someone to suggest therapy.


All in all... the whole situation sounds weird as hell. If she doesn't need the closure... move on... cuz something is most definately out of the ordinary.
 
I do understand that. But I forgot to log in when I posted that and by the time I was finished, I was not sure I wanted those people who really knew who I was to know what I am going through right now. I usually keep things like this to myself and not burden my friends online with personal BS...this just has me in a ball of knots not sure which way to go with it.
 
But thank you both for bothering to take the time with this. I guess I feel somewhat like closure is necessary, but at the same time, don't feel like giving him the chance to bother, let alone relieve any guilt he might be living with for confessing his sins.
 
Yes she has the right to confront him...

But he too has the right not to answer her confrontation with anything but more lies, so what is the point of it.

If the confrontation could be cathartic to her I would say go ahead, but it appears from your description, that she is more upset about the fact that she caught him out, than that he was lying to her in the first place.

My opinion for all that it is worth, is shrug your shoulders and move on though if there is ever a next time with a different man, to listen to those little voices as soon as they raise their heads and drop the next one before he gets under her skin!
 
Unregistered said:
But thank you both for bothering to take the time with this. I guess I feel somewhat like closure is necessary, but at the same time, don't feel like giving him the chance to bother, let alone relieve any guilt he might be living with for confessing his sins.

Do you think that you are afraid that if he does have a good reason... you would want to continue your relationship with him?
 
Sounds to me the woman needs to buy a vibrator and go on with her life with her kids... Plus as the ole saying goes; there are more fish in the sea'
 
jadedpast said:


Do you think that you are afraid that if he does have a good reason... you would want to continue your relationship with him?

I don't think so. I do find that I have enjoyed having someone other than my kids to talk to, even liked going out to those quiet dinners. But all along, I have kept from having feelings of love or trust from entering into it, I thought I did so because of the need to stay alone for the boys, now I see that I think I did because of those nagging feelings all along.

But I almost began to feel like I needed his companionship even though there has been no sex for a while, I was not really missing that.
 
You have said the relationship is all but over now anyway and rightfully so. Confrontation might give you closure, or just more lies. You have little more to lose. If he does come clean, you can walk away knowing the truth, if not, You can just walk away.
 
Companionship or just adult conversation...

Can be a mental lifesaver, and allow us to maintain an even keel in our lives.

Without the attention paid to us by our companions, we can fall into reclusive habits that are not good for us in the long term, the ability and skills to converse as adults can be reduced or lost if intent on looking after our children to the exclusion of all others.

I have seen several friends shun contact with others when going through the years up to school age for their kids, you may have noticed yourself how you almost crave the adult contact even when it is just a few mins of phone conversation in a day or two.
 
jadedpast said:
Why do you think you need to stay alone for your boys?

Good Question. It is hard raising sons these days, and after the horrible choices I made regarding their fathers and my husband 14 years ago, I decided that what was best for them now that I am a single parent is to be there for them until they are ready to go out on their own.

Too many kids have to fight with potential step parent wanna be's or parents that want to do what makes them feel good without regard for what is best for their kids. I did not want to ever put my kids in a position to have to need me or want to talk to me and me being to distracted by some man to pay attention.

Far too many women put their kids needs aside for the sake of a warm body in their bed every night and I never wanted to be that kind of mom.

I chose to be their parent and they unfortunately got stuck with one that was not wise enough when choosing Daddy or the hubby. After the drug abuse and terror from the hubby and the abuse by the daddy's (which by the way was one hit from the oldest one's dad and one affair by the youngest one's dad and I walked away from them without ever questioning my actions.)

I knew then when it was time to leave and did not stick around in any of the three relationships after the first sign of serious trouble.

I just wanted to always be there for the boys and for them to never doubt what kind of mother they had by watching her bring men into her life and theirs.
 
Re: Companionship or just adult conversation...

Unregistered said:
Can be a mental lifesaver, and allow us to maintain an even keel in our lives.

Without the attention paid to us by our companions, we can fall into reclusive habits that are not good for us in the long term, the ability and skills to converse as adults can be reduced or lost if intent on looking after our children to the exclusion of all others.

I have seen several friends shun contact with others when going through the years up to school age for their kids, you may have noticed yourself how you almost crave the adult contact even when it is just a few mins of phone conversation in a day or two.


This is the reasons I feel I prolonged this charade. I did enjoy the companionship. And not having to referree another fight about who took who's turn on the nintendo.
 
Having a relationship with a man can sometimes be good for the kids involved...... especially boys who sometimes crave the attention of a 'father figure' because other kids they know have one.

There are men out there who will love your sons as much as they would love their own children.... just ask some of the other board members who have found love even though they are/were single mothers.

I agree with your post saying that some women do put the needs of their children aside when dealing with men.... but reading your posts... I don't believe you would allow that to happen.... you can't shut yourself out of a life because you are afraid of getting into a similar situation as your previous marriage and relationships. Everyone needs companionship... and I think if you are careful (which seems to be the type of person you are) you will come out great.

Give things a chance :)
 
Thank you...

I use this board in a similar fashion, especially while the kids are on their holidays.

But I would still like the chance to be taken out and wined and dined, it would mean stepping out of the comfort zone though and I am not sure I am ready to do that.
 
take it one step at a time :)

try going out for coffee first..... then gradually work your way up to the dating part :)
 
Maybe I'm a little late to this one, but I thought I'd throw my two cents in. You have every right to confront him, but be realistic about what you expect to accomplish. If he's been lying all along, there's no guarantee that when confronted, he's going to fall to his knees and beg your forgiveness. Confront him to feel strong about yourself and what you're willing or unwilling to put up with. Confront him because you want him to realize, in no uncertain terms, that he will never get that close to you again. Don't confront him because you want some sort of revenge or you want to see him squirm. Chances are good you'll get neither and will likely end up feeling worse than before. You're probably better off just never talking to him again, but I know if I was in the same situation, I probably wouldn't be able to resist the urge to tell the idiot off. Good luck. I'm sorry this had to happen.
 
Unregistered said:
After all, should the coast guard find out, he would be discharged with only half the pension after 17 years.

So after the mother who is hospitalized answers her home phone and the nice man at the coast guard office confirms all her intuitions and tells her that the man is lying...

Why does she care?

Not that she will continue with him though, because she has always had those strange feelings about him from the second date. She just always dismissed it because as in the past, she was being accused by friends that she was just looking for reasons not to date. Even when she had decided a month or so ago to stop dating, she allowed him to calm her and slow down more so she would not bolt.

Half pay, medical retirement from the Coast Guard Reserve is about twice what he would get if he retired at twenty from the reserves.

The guy is a flake, and she should tell him to take a hike and then block his calls.
 
Re: Re: I wonder why????????

Weird Harold said:


Half pay, medical retirement from the Coast Guard Reserve is about twice what he would get if he retired at twenty from the reserves.

The guy is a flake, and she should tell him to take a hike and then block his calls.

WH, you're right on this one. When could you ever trust him not to lie again? Get on with your life and past this guy.
 
If you really just want to know but don't want to confront the guy, why not have a PI follow him to see what he really does when he says he is at the Coast Guard?
 
At the risk of being told to fuck off I wanted to share some thoughts. From what you have written you have had some difficulties chosing men who are fully evolved. I am puzzled why you continued the relationship when your gut was telling you to kick him to the curb. I wonder if you need to rethink your decision to be alone for your sons. Would it not be better to have a healthy relationship as a model for them? I think you need to confront this guy for yourself and not just walk away from it. You may end up learning more about yourself. Now you can tell me to go to hell but I know you are lonely and although I respect your wish to be focused on your sons, I think it gives them a different kind of message. In my humble opinion.
 
For any of those still wondering...

I confronted him today. I was right, even called his poor hospitalized Mom at home and told her how sorry I was to hear about her horrible fall and so glad she was home now. Told her how proud she must be of her son to be in the coast guard after all these years and that he found time this weekend to visit her in the hospital and still work on her house while doing his duty for the government.

Guess what? She had no idea what I was talking about. Her son is not in the coast guard nor was she in the hospital and he is not working on her house so I must have the wrong woman.

His response to all this even after I called her in front of him with my cell phone was...."She would not know what I do, I told you I am not that close to her."

After it was all over and done, he did try the one thing I really expected, to turn this out to make himself the victim for me not trusting him enough to begin with. When after all, he only wanted to impress me and make me think he was worthy of me and my children.

Do I feel any better? Nope. Still feel like a fool, and actually quite hurt. But why? No idea.

I only wish there were duplicate men in this world like we women are lucky enough to come in contact with on LIT.

Hell maybe I can just pack my kids up and move into the computer and live happily ever after in Lit with all those great guys surrounding us.
 
I'm so sorry for your pain. Did confronting him help you any, or did it ultimately just lead to more heartache?

Unfortunately, some of the best learning experiences are the most painful ones....my heart goes out to you and your kids.
 
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