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I have a friend that I don't know how to help. I'm hoping someone here can give me some insight, because this just baffles me.

I'll start with the financial problem. She's in a dead-end job, and laments that if she could afford to go back to school, she could finally get her dream job. She can't afford to go back to school, however, because she's $125 dollars/month short on the tuition payments (after factoring in loans, grants, etc.). In the next breath, she tells me that she just spent $150 for an ionic breeze machine. And right now she's out shopping for cloth to reupholster her outdoor furniture. For the deck that's not yet constructed. In the yard that's half finished.

She spends money like most people breathe. She owes another friend $1,500 and her psychiatrist $2,000 (on top of all the standard bills). She's clinically depressed and already on medication. She's been seeing pychiatrists for almost two decades now, and tried every anti-depressant short of lithium, but she seems to be getting worse. She's increasingly late for things because she said the clock just doesn't matter.

We both know that she shops because it makes her feel better in the short term, which in turn makes her feel worse in the long term. Whenever I try to get her to confront that fact and stop wasting money, she gets defensive and sullen.

It is just so overwhelming seeing my friend like this. What on earth can be done?
 
The above is me. I started another thread with my name attached. Sorry about that.
 
YOU cannot help her. also it's sounding like you need help yourself.
 
Unregistered said:
YOU cannot help her. also it's sounding like you need help yourself.

God, would you trolls please just fuck off if you can't post something useful?

Mischka - you probably can't help her. If $2000 in psychiatrists didn't work, you might not have what it takes to help her either. She needs to realize it, and make the changes on her own. Shopping is just like random sex or overeating - it fills a need for some people. So until they figure out how to fill that in other less harmful or expensive ways, there's not always a lot to be done for them.
 
because i did not register does not make my post none the less true.

i could say the same thing using one thousand words or more explaining why and it would boil down to the same thing.

here is the short version.

1. one person can not help a person who will not help themselves.

2. staying involved with a nonbalanced and noncentered person which her freind clearly is will have an effect on her.

3. the odds of her freind sticking with school is about one in ten at best.

and it goes on and on and on. been there done that, got help.
 
At first this may sound unhelpful, but if taken seriously and and acted upon it may just help. There is no quick fix for this situation. Your friend needs (in order), (1) a friend. Sounds like she has that. (2) a financial plan. Sometmes if we approach those who we are indebted to with the simple facts of life about our ability to pay, we get some form of relief. (3) a goal about a more rewarding job. This may require some hard work in the form of more or more specific education. It could mean working days and learning nights. The positive of that is your friend will be busy and that in and of itself, may help. Continue to guide and help her for it is only through the giving that we receive. I don't mean to sound like a know- it- all and I am only trying to help. Good luck.
 
Do a humane thing.

Take her to the vet and put her to sleep.
 
Unregistered said:
because i did not register does not make my post none the less true.

i could say the same thing using one thousand words or more explaining why and it would boil down to the same thing.

here is the short version.

1. one person can not help a person who will not help themselves.

2. staying involved with a nonbalanced and noncentered person which her freind clearly is will have an effect on her.

3. the odds of her freind sticking with school is about one in ten at best.

and it goes on and on and on. been there done that, got help.

1) your posts carry more weight when done under a registered name
2) If that's what you meant, why not post that instead of insulting her?
 
Freya2 said:


1) your posts carry more weight when done under a registered name
2) If that's what you meant, why not post that instead of insulting her?

Yeah, what she said.

I haven't spoken with you in awhile (or anyone else, actually) and just wanted to say hi Freya, I really enjoy your posts. ;)
 
intrigued said:


Yeah, what she said.

I haven't spoken with you in awhile (or anyone else, actually) and just wanted to say hi Freya, I really enjoy your posts. ;)

Hi Connie - thank you. That means a lot coming from someone like you.
 
Freya2 said:


Hi Connie - thank you. That means a lot coming from someone like you.

Can I jump on the "I Like Freya" bandwagon?

(And BTW...I finally checked out your pic thread. Damn girl!)
 
IrishWolfhound said:


Can I jump on the "I Like Freya" bandwagon?

(And BTW...I finally checked out your pic thread. Damn girl!)

Oh jeez, that'll be the smallest bandwagon in history! And thanks! :eek:
 
Freya2 said:


Hi Connie - thank you. That means a lot coming from someone like you.
;)

Irish...I've missed you too, and hope you and your lady are loving yourselves silly..... :rose:
 
Freya2 said:


Oh jeez, that'll be the smallest bandwagon in history! And thanks! :eek:

Oh please hon, not only are you genuine, giving, and unafraid to speak your beautiful mind, but you are a hottie, too. So damn sensual....:rose:
 
intrigued said:
;)

Irish...I've missed you too, and hope you and your lady are loving yourselves silly..... :rose:

She was at the Lit gathering in Atlanta...and I was stuck here working. I've been one lonely hound this weekend.
 
intrigued said:


Oh please hon, not only are you genuine, giving, and unafraid to speak your beautiful mind, but you are a hottie, too. So damn sensual....:rose:

Freya...what she said. Where in Canada? Doesn't matter, I'll move there if the women look like you.
 
IrishWolfhound said:


She was at the Lit gathering in Atlanta...and I was stuck here working. I've been one lonely hound this weekend.

Oh dear...damn. *hugs you and whispers with my best southern accent, "I'm so sorry darlin"* :(

I wish I knew what to say....do you think you will see her soon?
 
intrigued said:


Oh dear...damn. *hugs you and whispers with my best southern accent, "I'm so sorry darlin"* :(

I wish I knew what to say....do you think you will see her soon?

I do hope so pretty lady. In the mean time I survive on MSN and sweet phone calls.
 
Star of Penumbra said:
**Coughs and points at second part of sig.**
Was this directed at the original thread topic or Freya's/Irish/Intrigued's resulting friendly conversation? I don't have sig lines turned on, so if it's for me, I'd be grateful if you'd elaborate. :)
 
The second part of my sig reads:

Please remember: Feeding trolls is a dangerous activity, and should only be performed by trained professionals.

I think it's obvious what this was in reference to.
 
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Mischka said:
Was this directed at the original thread topic or Freya's/Irish/Intrigued's resulting friendly conversation? I don't have sig lines turned on, so if it's for me, I'd be grateful if you'd elaborate. :)


I'm sorry mischka. <hanging head> I'm a terrible thread hijacker.

But you must admit I'm a good flirt. ;)
 
Mischka said:
Was this directed at the original thread topic or Freya's/Irish/Intrigued's resulting friendly conversation? I don't have sig lines turned on, so if it's for me, I'd be grateful if you'd elaborate. :)


I'm sorry mischka. <hanging head> I'm a terrible thread hijacker.

But you must admit I'm a good flirt. ;)
 
IrishWolfhound said:


I do hope so pretty lady. In the mean time I survive on MSN and sweet phone calls.

Well then, you are doing the best you can, though it is a sweet torture, huh?;)

Mischka, I am sorry, I will stop hijacking now. I think the advice given you is "right on", and I hope you will find a place of comfort and resolve in dealing with your friend....I wish you both well.:rose:
 
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