How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[xfrodobagginsx]

Christians are so unlike their Christ.

Because we follow God's Word?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

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[xfrodobagginsx]

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[phrodeau]

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They're intending to read some other religion's Bible, not yours. There are some vast differences.

 

[colddiesel]

Because we follow God's Word?

You don't. Read the Sermon on the Mount. You do nothing for your fellow human beings. You are a bunch of fucking cunts and the Nazarene would be the first to condemn your vile hypocrisy.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

You don't. Read the Sermon on the Mount. You do nothing for your fellow human beings. You are a bunch of fucking cunts and the Nazarene would be the first to condemn your vile hypocrisy.

You are a very manipulated liar. Christians do more for their fellow man than any other group. It's just tgat when Christians and Christian organizations do charity, it isn't reported by the press. The vile hypocrisy comes from liberals who think like you do. Hateful while calling themselves loving.

 

[phrodeau]

You are a very manipulated liar. Christians do more for their fellow man than any other group. It's just tgat when Christians and Christian organizations do charity, it isn't reported by the press. The vile hypocrisy comes from liberals who think like you do. Hateful while calling themselves loving.

Sure, make a claim, then explain why it can't be proven.

Just like the Bible.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Sure, make a claim, then explain why it can't be proven.

Just like the Bible.

I just responded to your baseless claim. Why don't you give me your reasons and facts and I will respond to your false claims.

 

[ishtat]

You are a very manipulated liar. Christians do more for their fellow man than any other group. It's just tgat when Christians and Christian organizations do charity, it isn't reported by the press. The vile hypocrisy comes from liberals who think like you do. Hateful while calling themselves loving.

Try not to be so ignorant. The Jews and the Moslems (third pillar of Islam) leave Christians way behind in Alms giving. The Buddhists and Hindus are well up there too. And the Parsees are ahead of all of them.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Try not to be so ignorant. The Jews and the Moslems (third pillar of Islam) leave Christians way behind in Alms giving. The Buddhists and Hindus are well up there too. And the Parsees are ahead of all of them.

Responding to ignorance isn't the same as being ignorant. I was responding to ignorance. The Christians lead the way in giving. The red cross is just one Christian organization that reaches millions. Churches give away tons of food quietly each week. They help the poor by giving them money to pay bills all of the time. Say what you want, it's not true. Also, there was a survey done and Conservatives donate more money to charity than Liberals.

 

[ishtat]

Responding to ignorance isn't the same as being ignorant. I was responding to ignorance. The Christians lead the way in giving. The red cross is just one Christian organization that reaches millions. Churches give away tons of food quietly each week. They help the poor by giving them money to pay bills all of the time. Say what you want, it's not true. Also, there was a survey done and Conservatives donate more money to charity than Liberals.

I regret Frodo but you are profoundly ignorant. When you claim the superiority of your brand of belief over others you are doing precisely what Jesus did not do. He did not claim his particular brand was the best, he praised the Samaritan for his charity and the Syrophoenecian woman for her faith - not one of his own followers (Mark 7 24-30.) The widow contributed more with her mite than your kind do with their grandiose claims of superiority. And, incidentally, you cannot make claims for the Red Cross and leave out the Red Crescent, or even for that matter, the Red Swastika.

Thinking of charitable work, Turkey currently has given a safe haven to 3.5 million refugees, Iran has responded similarly to Hazara people from Afghanistan -3 million of them, and Pakistan is housing over 1.4 million.

We in the first world cannot get remotely close to those levels of generosity - remind yourself about US refugee immigration again - and we are no better in OZ.

But just for a start quit the boasting that your " team" the christians is better than the others.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

I regret Frodo but you are profoundly ignorant. When you claim the superiority of your brand of belief over others you are doing precisely what Jesus did not do. He did not claim his particular brand was the best, he praised the Samaritan for his charity and the Syrophoenecian woman for her faith - not one of his own followers (Mark 7 24-30.) The widow contributed more with her mite than your kind do with their grandiose claims of superiority. And, incidentally, you cannot make claims for the Red Cross and leave out the Red Crescent, or even for that matter, the Red Swastika.

Thinking of charitable work, Turkey currently has given a safe haven to 3.5 million refugees, Iran has responded similarly to Hazara people from Afghanistan -3 million of them, and Pakistan is housing over 1.4 million.

We in the first world cannot get remotely close to those levels of generosity - remind yourself about US refugee immigration again - and we are no better in OZ.

But just for a start quit the boasting that your " team" the christians is better than the others.

First of all, Jesus Christ did NOT respect any religion but Christianity and neither does the Bible. All other religions are forbidden and condemned in the Bible by Jesus and the Bible. You are showing YOUR ignorance if you think otherwise.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Mt 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: {strait: or, narrow }
Mt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Secondly, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus ALL think they are right and that their particular brand of religion is right and all others are wrong and that's not offensive to you. Interesting that you should single out Christianity, which is what the Bible also predicts because Christianity is actually the truth.

The Samaritan story was about racism not religion. He was telling them that they need to love all people because they are all created in the image of God. Nothing to do with their religion. Jesus commands His followers to go out and preach the gospel to every creature and His followers were killed for telling people that the only way is through Jesus Christ.

The widow had nothing to do with salvation, He was making the point that she gave more because she gave of her lack of wealth and it was all that she had.

They don't use a swastika. You are warped in your thinking. They are a Christian organization like St. Vincent De Paul, The Salvation Army and many others who aren't looking for attention like the ones you would likely support.

Turkey and Pakistan can harbor them and it's better that way because Turkey is a predominantly muslim nation and so are the refugees so they would be more comfortable there.

The US gives more to charity than all other nations combined. The US is the greatest country in the history of the world. The rest of the world should be trying to be more like the US.

Christianity is the only true religion all others are false. I will never say otherwise. That's what Jesus and His followers said. That's what the Bible says. If it doesn't bother you that other religions think this way, why does it bother you that Christians know this to be true?

Does it bother you that Muslim nations kill homosexuals and torture them? Just wondering.

 

[jp55665566]

Just play it out... play it out... then at the last second say, "ok, jesus, i'm in..."

 

[cowslinger64]

First of all, Jesus Christ did NOT respect any religion but Christianity and neither does the Bible.

Christianity is the only true religion all others are false. I will never say otherwise. That's what Jesus and His followers said. That's what the Bible says.

James 1:27 King James Version (KJV)

27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


Don't see the word Christianity in that verse.


There is just way too much man influence in the writing and compilation of the Bible. It cannot be taken literally...word for word. It's a handbook for life.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

James 1:27 King James Version (KJV)

27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


Don't see the word Christianity in that verse.


There is just way too much man influence in the writing and compilation of the Bible. It cannot be taken literally...word for word. It's a handbook for life.

That's not the way of salvation though. It's describing what a Christian aught to do and Christians do those things more than any other group, but not so that we can be saved.

The writing of the Bible was an amazing feat that could have only come about by God Himself. It is to be taken literally unless it specifies otherwise or is blatantly obvious otherwise. The way that the Bible fits together although many of the writers didn't know each other, didn't always have access to the other writings is amazing. The prophecies that came true are amazing.

 

[cowslinger64]

That's not the way of salvation though. It's describing what a Christian aught to do and Christians do those things more than any other group, but not so that we can be saved.

The writing of the Bible was an amazing feat that could have only come about by God Himself. It is to be taken literally unless it specifies otherwise or is blatantly obvious otherwise. The way that the Bible fits together although many of the writers didn't know each other, didn't always have access to the other writings is amazing. The prophecies that came true are amazing.

That's not what I referred to. I disputed your assertion about religion.. which was incorrect.


You need to do some serious research on how the bible was put together. Serious.

 

[phrodeau]

Luke 10:30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.

Levites were the assistants to the priests in Hebrew temples. You know that, right?

To say that this is about racism is total bullshit.

 

[ishtat]

My response is in bold italics

First of all, Jesus Christ did NOT respect any religion but Christianity and neither does the Bible. Tell that one to the Jews! All other religions are forbidden and condemned in the Bible by Jesus and the Bible. You are showing YOUR ignorance if you think otherwise.

Jesus was born, lived and died a Jew (in fact King of the Jews) and never taught anything but a reform of Judaism


Secondly, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and Christians ALL think that their particular brand of religion is right and all others are wrong and that's not offensive to you. No they are all equally wrong, in fact the Sikhs are the only major religion which firmly believes they do not have all the answers

The Samaritan story was about racism not religion. Nonsense, the Jews and the Samaritans are racially identical Semitic people. The Samaritans just make do with the Torah; it was just religious bigotry - nothing changes

The widow had nothing to do with salvation. I never said it did.

Look up Red Swastika and realize what an utter dill you are. The Red Swastika was a Chinese charitable organisation which did great work during the Chinese civil wars. I knew you would fall for that one.

Turkey and Pakistan can harbor them and it's better that way because Turkey is a predominantly muslim nation and so are the refugees so they would be more comfortable there. Well isn't that kind of you; Turkey Iran and Pakistan can support over 8 million refugees because they are muslims despite the fact we caused many of them to be refugees. But of course if your principle was applied consistently you would be clamouring to accept those 35,000 refugees from Central America. After all they are Christians, even if it would be less than one half of 1% of what those impoverished muslim nations have accepted

The US gives more to charity than all other nations combined. The US is the greatest country in the history of the world. The rest of the world should be trying to be more like the US.

Christianity is the only true religion all others are false. I will never say otherwise. That's what Jesus and His followers said. No he did not, Jesus of Nazareth never heard the word Christ or Christian ever - it was a Greek afterthought of Paul's

Does it bother you that Muslim nations kill homosexuals and torture them? Just wondering.

Yes it does, so does torture at Al Gharib, at Guantanamo Bay, At Manus Island (By Australia) and in Russia. Torture and murder is bad everywhere - ask Gina Haspel

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

My response is in bold italics

Yes it does, so does torture at Al Gharib, at Guantanamo Bay, At Manus Island (By Australia) and in Russia. Torture and murder is bad everywhere - ask Gina Haspel

I showed you through the Bible where Jesus stated plainly that HE is the only way to the Father and no one comes to the Father but by Him. He also stated that wide is the way of destruction and narrow is the way of salvation.

Here are a couple more quotes from Jesus Himself. Are you saying that Jesus is lying?

Jesus Himself said:

Joh 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

Jesus Himself said:

1Jo 5:12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Is Jesus lying?

 

[phrodeau]

I showed you through the Bible where Jesus stated plainly that HE is the only way to the Father and no one comes to the Father but by Him. He also stated that wide is the way of destruction and narrow is the way of salvation.

Here are a couple more quotes from Jesus Himself. Are you saying that Jesus is lying?

Jesus Himself said:

Joh 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

Jesus Himself said:

1Jo 5:12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Is Jesus lying?

Probably.

Jesus was lying when He said, "There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him." This is in Mark 7, following a discussion over why the disciples never washed their hands before eating.

Surely Jesus knew all about germs, since He created them.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Probably.

Jesus was lying when He said, "There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him." This is in Mark 7, following a discussion over why the disciples never washed their hands before eating.

Surely Jesus knew all about germs, since He created them.

Jesus was referring to the Spiritual. What comes out of the man is what defiles him. Evil comes from the heart of man and becomes sin. Jesus was more concerned with a man's spiritual well being than He was a man's physical well being. Non Christians don't get that.

 

[phrodeau]

Jesus was referring to the Spiritual. What comes out of the man is what defiles him. Evil comes from the heart of man and becomes sin. Jesus was more concerned with a man's spiritual well being than He was a man's physical well being. Non Christians don't get that.

Then He's still lying. Demonic possession defiles a person, and that comes from outside. And how does evil get into a person's spiritual heart in the first place? I am assuming spiritual hearts are inside people, although nobody has ever found one.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Then He's still lying. Demonic possession defiles a person, and that comes from outside. And how does evil get into a person's spiritual heart in the first place? I am assuming spiritual hearts are inside people, although nobody has ever found one.

No, Demonic possession actually doesn't defile a person. It is the result of being defiled already. It gives legal rights to satan to attach demons to you or inside you when you have unrepentant sin in your life. Evil is inside of man's heart since birth because of our sin nature that we inherited from our father Adam. Yes I believe there is a spiritual aspect to the heart as well.

I have seen and worked with people who have demons and I have a pretty good understanding of how it works. Demons can influence a man, but possession is when they control a man.

 

[phrodeau]

No, Demonic possession actually doesn't defile a person. It is the result of being defiled already. It gives legal rights to satan to attach demons to you or inside you when you have unrepentant sin in your life. Evil is inside of man's heart since birth because of our sin nature that we inherited from our father Adam. Yes I believe there is a spiritual aspect to the heart as well.

I have seen and worked with people who have demons and I have a pretty good understanding of how it works. Demons can influence a man, but possession is when they control a man.

Jump through all the hoops you feel you need to, but it’s perfectly clear that Mark 7 is all about eating with dirty hands. Jesus said it doesn’t matter, modern science proves that it does.

Maybe Jesus spoke out of ignorance, since nobody else had a clue about germs at the time. So either Jesus is omniscient and lying, or He’s uninformed.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Jump through all the hoops you feel you need to, but it’s perfectly clear that Mark 7 is all about eating with dirty hands. Jesus said it doesn’t matter, modern science proves that it does.

Maybe Jesus spoke out of ignorance, since nobody else had a clue about germs at the time. So either Jesus is omniscient and lying, or He’s uninformed.

If you had taken the time to read the old testament and the law, they were instructed to wash and cleanliness was a big part of the law, not touching dead things, ect. and now it is clear why they were instructed because of germs. The context of the passage you are referring to has nothing to do with germs. It has to do with good and evil. It's not evil to eat with dirty hands, evil is what comes out of the man. So yes God knew before science discovered it, since He made it.

Also, there are a lot of other things in the Bible that Science didn't discover until recently like the fact that the earth hangs on nothing in outer space, that the earth is round and many other things. With that said, the Bible is not a science book per se, it is a history book meant to bring man to salvation.