"Historic Storm"

[IrezumiKiss]

I wonder if vettbirther has sympathy for the elderly during this storm.

Or anyone in need of hospitalization.

Vette somehow thinks everyone elderly during severe weather conditions is as spry, nimble and mobile as Clint Eastwood.

 

[Wrong Element]

The forecasters are really hedging their bets now about how much snow NYC is going to get. The storm might be farther east than first believed. Coastal New England and eastern Long Island are still screwed, though.

As I recall from coverage of the several-hours-long blackout we had about ten years ago, stories that affect tens of millions of people usually get treated by the national media as if they're happening only in New York.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Come to NorCal I'll introduce you to all sorts of folks in Shasta/Trinity/Tahoe that live with feet of snow regularly.

Ever been to Alaska? Minnesota? Idaho? Wyoming? How do they make it!!

Easy. They deal with it every year as a regular fact of life, so everything is designed and planned around it. People in the American Northeast don't, and they have a lot of vulnerable infrastructure, some of which has failed in some past disasters -- and, yes, a blizzard of this scale and power in that part of the country counts as one.

 

[KingOrfeo]

As I recall from coverage of the several-hours-long blackout we had about ten years ago, stories that affect tens of millions of people usually get treated by the national media as if they're happening only in New York.

And where do most national media outlets have their headquarters?

 

[phrodeau]

Easy. They deal with it every year as a regular fact of life, so everything is designed and planned around it. People in the American Northeast don't, and they have a lot of vulnerable infrastructure, some of which has failed in some past disasters -- and, yes, a blizzard of this scale and power in that part of the country counts as one.

Those in the snowier climes see the elderly and infirm migrating to Florida and Arizona every November. They're every bit at risk as the New Englanders.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Those in the snowier climes see the elderly and infirm migrating to Florida and Arizona every November. They're every bit at risk as the New Englanders.

At risk? They're not especially at risk here in Florida . . . unless they try to drive, and then they just get scowled at and maybe honked at . . . .

 

[phrodeau]

At risk? They're not especially at risk here in Florida . . . unless they try to drive, and then they just get scowled at and maybe honked at . . . .

At risk of severe winter weather, which they fly from in order to escape, you silly king.

 

[KingOrfeo]

At risk of severe winter weather, which they fly from in order to escape, you silly king.

And boy are their arms tired . . .

And they'd all get that one, too!

 

[KingOrfeo]

The Fascist Communist Islamist Driving Bans are now in effect across New York City, New Jersey and Connecticut.

 

[cowslinger64]

I'm pretty sure there is a big difference between saying people should stay in, and setting up a curfew with punitive measures backing it.

Stupid people should be allowed to off themselves with their own stupid.....



Nothing about being prepared requires stacks of wood smart ass.

Got 800 families paying 10k a month for their high rise condos? Better have a generator in the bottom of that bitch....if not, stupid mother fuckers.

There is no excuse for being unprepared. If you live in NE or really at elevation/north of the 42nd then you should ALWAYS be ready to ride out a blizzard. Just like if you live in a fucking jungle/rain forest....you should be ready for a monsoon season because DUHHHHHHH!!!



Right....and I'm with him, the stay in or face prosecution is over the fucking top.

Why not just delcair martial law and got to DEFCON 1??FEMA GET THE CAMPS READY!





Usually it takes a natural disaster to declare a state of emergency.

It's a blizzard for sure....but a blizzard is not a mile wide F5 tornado hitting a major city....a 200ft wall of water wiping a coast clean....hurricane leveling/flooding a state.....or an earthquake crushing a city.

All those things kill hundreds if not thousands of people and usually leave tens of thousands homeless. THAT is a fucking emergency....

A blizzard is a risk to morons and an inconvenience worthy of a couple days off for the rest of the sane segment of society.



cat·a·stroph·ic
ˌkadəˈsträfik/
adjective
1.
involving or causing sudden great damage or suffering.
"a catastrophic earthquake"


Right....

When the body count rises over 0.1% or damage hits 11 figures (easy as fuck for a hurricane or half decent tornado) I'll bend over, kiss your ass and profess how fucking wrong I was. No problem.

But I just don't see the disaster happening.



That's an inconvenience, not a catastrophe, oh master of the most dramatic 1st world problems.



That's the big one...if power goes down the elderly/crippled could be in a world of suck Oh and don't forget the fucking retards too stupid to stay warm.



See....I bet in 48 hrs you will be well rested and looking to shovel yourself out just like 99.999999% of those effected by the DEVASTATING CATASTROPHE OF BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS!!!! you lot are about to endure. LOL

Lol...I didn't know that vettes condition was contagious but it's spread quickly out there in Californee..

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Okay.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Blizzard2_-_NOAA.jpg/308px-Blizzard2_-_NOAA.jpg

Botany has obviously never been through a blizzard to be so flippant about it.

I was living in Indiana in January '78. 4" of snow per hour with 40-50 MPH winds and 20' show drifts sealing you into your house are nothing to scoff at.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Lol...I didn't know that vettes condition was contagious but it's spread quickly out there in Californee..

Anyone that finds themselves in agreement with Vetteman should be seriously re-evaluating their thought process.

Then again, didn't Botany have some sort of Traumatic Brain Injury? That would certainly explain it.

 

[lovecraft68]

Botany has obviously never been through a blizzard to be so flippant about it.

I was living in Indiana in January '78. 4" of snow per hour with 40-50 MPH winds and 20' show drifts sealing you into your house are nothing to scoff at.

I was 10 in 78 and the storm caught people by surprise and back then they didn't let school's out for flurries like they do now.

BY the time they let us out, it was in full swing and snowing so heavily that me, my best friend and his sister and another kid held hands and walked down the street we all lived on in a line.

I lived maybe ten houses from the school and it took a half hour to get there.

 

[lovecraft68]

Anyone that finds themselves in agreement with Vetteman should be seriously re-evaluating their thought process.

Then again, didn't Botany have some sort of Traumatic Brain Injury? That would certainly explain it.

Its called addiction. When you smoke pot 24/7/365 for years you lose touch with reality.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Not everyone can be a self-made, badass, military expert and all around bootstrappy survivalist like you, Vette.

You should see him when he's in full kit after the ground shakes. Camo, 100 pound pack of water and canned meat products, face paint... prowling the mean streets of San Diego.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Well, looks like NYC dodged the worst of it.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo even called into CNN’s “New Day” to defend his decision to ban travel in the most populous city in the United States: “Hindsight is 20/20,” he said. “You act on the information you have at the time. The last thing I want to do are close roads and close the transportation system… But we’ve gotten risky the other way, and we’ve been in situations where we’ve lost lives. So this is nothing to trifle with, and I’d rather be a little safe than sorry.”

“Fox & Friends” dissed Mayor Bill de Blasio for keeping the city-wide travel ban in effect, while a Philadelphia meteorologist actually apologized for the hype when accumulation predictions were curtailed.

The thing is that even though the storm wasn’t quite as bad as predicted (it has thus far fallen short of “crippling” predictions at only slightly more than a foot of snow in New York and the National Weather Service downgraded the city’s blizzard warning to a winter storm warning), it was still pretty bad.

Reuters’ Scott Malone and Jill Serjeant report:

High winds and heavy snow were set to persist throughout the day, with another food forecast to fall in parts of Boston. Wind-driven seas caused flooding along some low-lying roadways in coastal Massachusetts, state police said.

Some of the heaviest snowfall was recorded in parts of Connecticut and Massachusetts, while New York City’s Central Park just saw 6 inches (15 cm), less than a quarter of the “historic” snowfall that some meteorologists had predicted…

Sustained winds in [New York] might hit 40 miles per hour (64 kph), though gusts as high as 78 mph (126 kph) were recorded on the island of Nantucket, off Massachusetts.

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani actually defended de Blasio for his caution. “Never criticize someone for over-preparing,” he said, “because the next time you might not prepare as well and we’ll all be upset.”

That's NYC, though. I hear it's a lot worse in New England.

 

[Wrong Element]

There's a difference between being prudent and overdosing on hype. Maybe wait until after the event has happened before calling it the Greatest Blizzard of All Time, which was something actually being reported as late as yesterday evening?

If you find yourself using the term Blizzard of the Century three times every decade, they probably aren't.

And where do most national media outlets have their headquarters?

True; it's a local story for them. But not necessarily of world historical import for the rest of us. Two feet of snow where I live is not going to be the only story on the national news for two straight days.

I was 10 in 78 and the storm caught people by surprise and back then they didn't let school's out for flurries like they do now.

BY the time they let us out, it was in full swing and snowing so heavily that me, my best friend and his sister and another kid held hands and walked down the street we all lived on in a line.

I lived maybe ten houses from the school and it took a half hour to get there.

Forecasting has gotten so much better. I remember the March 1993 blizzard which went up the entire east coast -- they knew that was coming a good 4-5 days in advance.

 

[KingOrfeo]

WSJ columnist: A blizzard missed New York City, so climate change isn’t real.

Isn't that what they're supposed to say if a blizzard hits NYC?!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Easy. They deal with it every year as a regular fact of life, so everything is designed and planned around it. People in the American Northeast don't, and they have a lot of vulnerable infrastructure, some of which has failed in some past disasters -- and, yes, a blizzard of this scale and power in that part of the country counts as one.

Like I said when the damage reaches 15 figures and the body count reaches at LEAST double digits I'll consider it a disaster. Till then it's an inconvenient storm scaring the shit out of a bunch of people desperate to have a crisis.

Lol...I didn't know that vettes condition was contagious but it's spread quickly out there in Californee..

Even broken clocks are right twice a day, just because I'm not buying your loony lib hysteria at face value doesn't make me anywhere near the shit bird coward vettey is.

But if you want to be your typical self and degrade this to shit talking as fast as fucking possible then that's cool too....go on and look like the childish LWCJ fluffer you are.

Botany has obviously never been through a blizzard to be so flippant about it.

I was living in Indiana in January '78. 4" of snow per hour with 40-50 MPH winds and 20' show drifts sealing you into your house are nothing to scoff at.

I never claimed it something to scoff at you illiterate fucking retard......

Just that it's not this apocalyptic sky is falling fucking crisis you and the LWCJ who are just ferociously defending the HISTORIC devastation of an event that has yet to occur (yes, if you're thinking you're nuts for defending how bad something was that hasn't happened yet the answer is YES), are making it out to be.

50 mph? Might be some light damage.....might be a few deaths if the power goes down. If the winds were clocking 70+ I would be right on board with the "Oh fuck youz about to get yer ass tore wide n' bleeding proper!" but there is a BIG difference between 50mph gust, sustained and 70mph gust/sustained.

But we aren't even there...looks like mostly 20mph with some good 45mph gust. Oh noez.....runz everybody we all gonna die!! Defcon1~~!! Defcon 1 I say!!

The whole gestapo curfews and shit? Fucking overboard man...if a storm is really going to hit that hard mother fuckers NEED every fucking second they can get to prepare. So on top of being unnecessary it's fucking retarded....

But hey...(D) perfect and everything outside teh narrative (D) approves is bad and should either be ridiculed or just totally dismissed amirite? OIMSORITE!!

On the right we have vette, 4est, ish, jbj and query....

On the left there is Slinger, Rob, UD, candi and zumi.....

Then there is BusyBody and KO....whole different breed of extreme.

What a bunch of fucking douchebags.

 

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[phrodeau]

WSJ columnist: A blizzard missed New York City, so climate change isn’t real.

Isn't that what they're supposed to say if a blizzard hits NYC?!

This model of simplicity came from Sanity Sam:

Summary: global warming helped spare NYC the worst of the snow; global warming responsible for 3 feet of snow in Mass.

 

[phrodeau]

Well now, looks like this storm wasn't so "historic" after all. It appears I'm right again, and all of the whiny libs are wrong:

Storm Fails To Live Up To Predictions In Some Areas As National Weather Service Meteorologist Apologizes
January 27, 2015 9:00 AM

NEW YORK (CBS Connecticut/AP) — A storm packing blizzard conditions spun up the East Coast early Tuesday, pounding coastal eastern Long Island into Maine with high winds and heavy snow, but it failed to live up to the hype in big cities like Philadelphia and New York, which canceled its travel ban amid better-than-expected weather conditions.

Gary Szatkowski, meteorologist-in-charge at the National Weather Service in Mt. Holly, New Jersey, apologized on Twitter for the snow totals being cut back.

“My deepest apologies to many key decision makers and so many members of the general public,” Szatkowski tweeted. “You made a lot of tough decisions expecting us to get it right, and we didn’t. Once again, I’m sorry.”

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2015/01/27/storm-fails-to-live-up-to-predictions-in-some-areas/

You weren't right or wrong. You said "let's see if it's historic or not", which doesn't predict either case.

Do you remember starting this thread? Your beef was because you thought the official warnings and actions were overblown. Had nothing to do with the severity of the storm.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

Actually shithead, I started the thread to mock the idea that this was an "historic storm," it wasn't so I'm right. Like, how could it be "historic" when it hadn't happened yet? Just another excuse for big government to come to everyone's rescue and overreach, as usual.

While I never used the term historic, you were right. I was wrong. They shouldn't have taken any precautions.