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Repeat the question, please. In this thread and this thread only. Don't smear feces over other threads in order to get my attention like a petulant infant.

If it's premise is not an absurd straw man not supported by what I said, like your first one to me in that other thread was, or a blatant lie about what I was saying, like the second one was, I'll answer it in one post. If your questioin is tainted with fallacies, I'll point this out and you get another chance to ask the question.

And then you have gotten what you are shrieking about, and you shut the fuck up. Like the answer? Shut the fuck up. Disagree with it? Shut the fuck up.

Deal?

Also, if you ever stop being a schtick, you might once again get to be part of conversations here.

:rose:
 
YOU SAID.....The need to have voter registration to begin with (as well as the whole voter-ID-or-not debacle) tells me only one thing;

that you lot don't really have the infrastructure for democracy. The election machinery seems to be kept together year by year with duct tape and a prayer.



To which I axed.........

You said in effect, US is not ready for prime time election/democracy wise

Tell us what WE should do to get to prime time....election time and democracy wise



I wont even bother with the questions I axed of BLOATED BITCH and QUEER ORAFARCE, cause we KNOW there is NO answer, they made it up


Please dont INSULT anyone's intelligence, about conversation etc etc, we all know why YOUR side cant/wont.....so lets just stop the pretense
 
Repeat the question, please. In this thread and this thread only. Don't smear feces over other threads in order to get my attention like a petulant infant.

If it's premise is not an absurd straw man not supported by what I said, like your first one to me in that other thread was, or a blatant lie about what I was saying, like the second one was, I'll answer it in one post. If your questioin is tainted with fallacies, I'll point this out and you get another chance to ask the question.

And then you have gotten what you are shrieking about, and you shut the fuck up. Like the answer? Shut the fuck up. Disagree with it? Shut the fuck up.

Deal?

Also, if you ever stop being a schtick, you might once again get to be part of conversations here.

:rose:

if I dont like it, its ONE thing....if you make SHIT up, I will never shut up

lemme give you 2 simple examples

Before teh Iraq war, KSYMYBUTTONS, a know crazy person, kept saying that we, teh US need teh support of ALLIES, I kept axing her, WHO annd WHY? She responded in circles, never able to ever answer, for obvious reasons.....I kept at her, and of course, I earned an IGGY.....cause she like others just spew shit and cant asnwer, so its better to pretend INDIGNATION

2nd example, POOKIE, yet another KNOW LOON, she also said THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE COULD DO SHORT OF WAR VS IRAQ, after days of back and forth,where I showed teh other things she proposed, were tried and didnt work, and other things she wanted tried cant work, WHAT OTHER THINGS???????????

She said, IF WE CAN GO TO THE MOON, WE CAN DO OTHER THINGS!

I could go on and on

But lets cut the shit, WE ALL KNOW WHY IM ON IGGY

YOU ARE PART OF THAT LOSER CROWD!

Shame, at one time you werent:cool:
 
YOU SAID.....The need to have voter registration to begin with (as well as the whole voter-ID-or-not debacle) tells me only one thing;

that you lot don't really have the infrastructure for democracy. The election machinery seems to be kept together year by year with duct tape and a prayer.



To which I axed.........

You said in effect, US is not ready for prime time election/democracy wise

Tell us what WE should do to get to prime time....election time and democracy wise



I wont even bother with the questions I axed of BLOATED BITCH and QUEER ORAFARCE, cause we KNOW there is NO answer, they made it up


Please dont INSULT anyone's intelligence, about conversation etc etc, we all know why YOUR side cant/wont.....so lets just stop the pretense

further

what EVIDENCE is there that we dont have the infrastructure for democracy? that ANYONE who wants to VOTE

cant vote:confused::confused:
 
its OK

I'll wait:rolleyes:



Just dont pretend the BULLSHIT you and so many others

pretend
 
if I dont like it, its ONE thing....if you make SHIT up, I will never shut up

lemme give you 2 simple examples

Before teh Iraq war, KSYMYBUTTONS, a know crazy person, kept saying that we, teh US need teh support of ALLIES, I kept axing her, WHO annd WHY? She responded in circles, never able to ever answer, for obvious reasons.....I kept at her, and of course, I earned an IGGY.....cause she like others just spew shit and cant asnwer, so its better to pretend INDIGNATION

2nd example, POOKIE, yet another KNOW LOON, she also said THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE COULD DO SHORT OF WAR VS IRAQ, after days of back and forth,where I showed teh other things she proposed, were tried and didnt work, and other things she wanted tried cant work, WHAT OTHER THINGS???????????

She said, IF WE CAN GO TO THE MOON, WE CAN DO OTHER THINGS!

I could go on and on

But lets cut the shit, WE ALL KNOW WHY IM ON IGGY

YOU ARE PART OF THAT LOSER CROWD!

Shame, at one time you werent:cool:
You're on ignore because you lost the plot. You started out claiming you were just being a gadfly, exaggerating the positions of the right to play a game and see what would stick, so you could use it to undermine the left. At the point where "exaggerating the positions of the right" involved Obama's race, you went full retard. You abandoned any pretense of some higher political purpose, and just used it as an excuse to use the word "nigger" a bunch of times, including--especially--in relation to actual black people posting here, whose only crime is thinking you're an idiot.

At this point, you're just another dumbass who thinks that posting "shocking" words makes you edgy and cute, and that people telling you you're an idiot means you've won something. You're pornstarwannabe without the charming personality.

FYI.
 
You're on ignore because you lost the plot. You started out claiming you were just being a gadfly, exaggerating the positions of the right to play a game and see what would stick, so you could use it to undermine the left. At the point where "exaggerating the positions of the right" involved Obama's race, you went full retard. You abandoned any pretense of some higher political purpose, and just used it as an excuse to use the word "nigger" a bunch of times, including--especially--in relation to actual black people posting here, whose only crime is thinking you're an idiot.

At this point, you're just another dumbass who thinks that posting "shocking" words makes you edgy and cute, and that people telling you you're an idiot means you've won something. You're pornstarwannabe without the charming personality.

FYI.

STFU, Racist

and tell us again

That Zimmerman called EVERYONE a COON

OK?

STFU!
 
LIAR

While you are pretending to "answer" my questions

Might as well AXE, your buddies, BLOATEDBITCH and QUEER ORAFARCE to answer as well

After all, they both are full of shit like you are!


I DARE YOU TO ANSWER, I EXPECT AN "ANSWER":cool:
 
YOU SAID.....The need to have voter registration to begin with (as well as the whole voter-ID-or-not debacle) tells me only one thing;

that you lot don't really have the infrastructure for democracy. The election machinery seems to be kept together year by year with duct tape and a prayer.



To which I axed.........

You said in effect, US is not ready for prime time election/democracy wise

Tell us what WE should do to get to prime time....election time and democracy wise



I wont even bother with the questions I axed of BLOATED BITCH and QUEER ORAFARCE, cause we KNOW there is NO answer, they made it up


Please dont INSULT anyone's intelligence, about conversation etc etc, we all know why YOUR side cant/wont.....so lets just stop the pretense
Ok, ignoring the fact that I didn't say the US is not ready for prime time democracy (whatever that is) - that's a pretty low treshold, and that you can't behave like a human being and keep calling people NAMES IN CAPS, here's an answer.

What I actually said was that the US has a collection infrastructure problems when it comes to holding elections. Making them less than optimal, although still valid. I DID say you hold them together, after all.

One being the need for voter registration. The only reason I can think of that warrants voter registration is that there's no public (no, not nessecarily publically available) record of citizens' primary residence. This means you need citizens to go though an extra set of motions that can be both buerocratic, time consuming, contested and confusing in order to finally cast their ballot. Me, I get voting papers in the mail two weeks before election day. I take them to the polling place (or post office for early voting), and that's that.

Another is lack of standards for identification. The debate over voter ID:s are mostly skewed to non-issues, but the bigger problem is that every local legislation can arbitrarily decide what's a valid voter ID and not, no matter if there are other ID's that are prefectly valid as identifications in people's everyday life. SS card? Not. Gun license? Valid. Student ID? Not. Driver's license. Valid. Out-of-state driver's license? Not. Before you start demanding photo ID at the ballot box, it should be unequivocally clear what is an ID and what is not. And if you move from Florida to Arizona, you should not have to re-prove who you are because of a patchwork of local variants of rules and regulations. And ID is an ID is an ID.

Thirdly, I see how routines, methods and rules for holding a vote is left to states even though the vote may be national, or to local boards even though the vote may be state wide. So people deciding the same thing have different looking ballots, differentntly worded questions on them, different rules for when and how they can do their democratic duty, and so on. This leads to confusion and suspicion that "they over there" have an easier time to get their votes counted, or that "they over there" have an easier time bypassing the rules and tipping the scale by cheating.

All the remedies I have fly in the face of a central American principle though, that of decentralization. If you want national democracy, you need national standards for it. And that means top-down regulating and stepping on a lot of local toes. Not sure it can be done.


There's my answer. Over and out.
 
Too fucking long and full of BS, as expected....but do read the RED,

Ok, ignoring the fact that I didn't say the US is not ready for prime time democracy.............No, you didnt.......buy saying that we DONT have the infrastructure in place is akin to that.....(whatever that is) - that's a pretty low treshold, and that you can't behave like a human being and keep calling people NAMES IN CAPS, here's an answer.

What I actually said was that the US has a collection infrastructure problems when it comes to holding elections...........you did......it isnt true......... Making them less than optimal, although still valid. I DID say you hold them together, after all.

One being the need for voter registration. The only reason I can think of that warrants voter registration is that there's no public (no, not nessecarily publically available) record of citizens' primary residence. This means you need citizens to go though an extra set of motions that can be both buerocratic, time consuming, contested and confusing in order to finally cast their ballot..........bs, there are dozens of places one can go to, post office, library etc etc, to register, takes one fucking minute.............why register? SO THEY DONT VOTE 5 times.......and DEAD PEOPLE DONT VOTE Me, I get voting papers in the mail two weeks before election day...........I do as well:rolleyes: I take them to the polling place (or post office for early voting), and that's that.

Another is lack of standards for identification. The debate over voter ID:s are mostly skewed to non-issues, but the bigger problem is that every local legislation can arbitrarily decide what's a valid voter ID and not, no matter if there are other ID's that are prefectly valid as identifications in people's everyday life. SS card? Not. Gun license? Valid. Student ID? Not. Driver's license. Valid. Out-of-state driver's license? Not. Before you start demanding photo ID at the ballot box, it should be unequivocally clear what is an ID and what is not. And if you move from Florida to Arizona, you should not have to re-prove who you are because of a patchwork of local variants of rules and regulations. And ID is an ID is an ID.........All BS, there are NO varied ID requirements....same ID to RENT a fucking BLOCKBUSTER, cash a check, collect welfare $$$, get food stamps, get an apt is VALID, you made this shit up

Thirdly, I see how routines, methods and rules for holding a vote is left to states even though the vote may be national, or to local boards even though the vote may be state wide. So people deciding the same thing have different looking ballots, differentntly worded questions on them, different rules for when and how they can do their democratic duty, and so on. This leads to confusion and suspicion that "they over there" have an easier time to get their votes counted, or that "they over there" have an easier time bypassing the rules and tipping the scale by cheating. ............utter crap, as to questions on ballots being different, THERE ARE NO FUCKING QUESTIONS.........other than LOCAL QUESTIONS, so of course they are different....

All the remedies I have fly in the face of a central American principle though, that of decentralization. If you want national democracy, you need national standards for it. And that means top-down regulating and stepping on a lot of local toes. Not sure it can be done.


There's my answer. Over and out.

Bottom line?

1-If someone CANT get ID, they dont deserve to vote

2-The reason why ID is RACIST, is cause RACISTS want to cheat!
 
Too fucking long and full of BS, as expected....but do read the RED,



Bottom line?

1-If someone CANT get ID, they dont deserve to vote

2-The reason why ID is RACIST, is cause RACISTS want to cheat!

I might add,

when I moved from NY to MD, it tool all of 12 seconds to register:rolleyes:

SHOW A FUCKING DRIVERS LICENSE, or any of 18 other forms of ID

ONLY SOMEONE INTENT ON FRAUD CANT SHOW ID
 
there is NOTHING wrong with our system

there is something WRONG with a swath of our "society" that want to CHEAT!:mad:
 
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