M_K_Babalon
Harbinger of smut
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I had never heard of "mx", but all my characters have genders, anyway.
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... it's rife here in the UK.A trend just started here in Australia, in business correspondence and email signature blocks, is to put "Name Name (he/him) (she/her) (they/them)".
It's not mandated. Yet.
I agree. Society has fairly quickly accepted Ms. and multiple other new terms over the years and I wish the nonbinary community could make up and agree to a new set of pronouns. I believe people would be far more accepting of a new pronoun than modifying an old one. But I am a lonely voice in the wilderness.I'm fine with a gender neutral pronoun, but they/them confuses me. They are plural terms.
The use is obvious. It gives people who are gender neutral a title to use in a formal setting, they're not forcing anyone else to use it for themselves?But I don't see how the use of "Mx" advances anything. How is society improved by being gender neutral? It strikes me as a contrived ideology. I think most people are comfortable with gender differences, and a small but vocal minority wants to eliminate them. I don't see how that small minority has any superior moral standing to insist upon its view. "Mx" seems contrived and silly to me.
I've used "Ms" upon occasion, usually for a woman who is unmarried but older than her twenties. To me, "Miss" implies youth and used to also imply virginity, while "Ms." just says not married. I think that was part of the appeal of the title "Ms." to women's lib in the 70's. They were older than their teens and "Miss" didn't sound mature enough.The use of "Ms." makes a lot of sense to me as a basic matter of equality and fairness. There's no good reason in a modern society why a woman's marital status should be more important than a man's. I remember a teacher of mine in middle school in the 1970s who made a point of wanting to be referred to as "Ms." rather than "Miss." Little things like that acclimate one to change. In my profession over several decades I've always referred to women as "Ms." No big deal. Seems logical and fair.
But I don't see how the use of "Mx" advances anything. How is society improved by being gender neutral? It strikes me as a contrived ideology. I think most people are comfortable with gender differences, and a small but vocal minority wants to eliminate them. I don't see how that small minority has any superior moral standing to insist upon its view. "Mx" seems contrived and silly to me.
And I definitely would not use "Mx" in an erotic story, because in an erotic story the heightening, rather than the diminishing, of gender differences makes the story more erotic to most readers, and certainly to this reader/author.
It's the title for Elon Musk's first child with Ms. Grimes.Mx reads a bit 'techie'
Mx (usually pronounced /mɪks/ MIKS or /məks/ MəKS
The only problem I see is that it isn't short form for a longer title, that's why it seems forced. Even Ms sounds forced the way some people say it. I wish there was a more widely accepted alternative.How, for example, do you pronounce Mx.?
Like they/them referring to single individual. Your 'sex' is what is between your legs. How or even IF you chose to use it is up to you.I don't see how that small minority has any superior moral standing to insist upon its view. "Mx" seems contrived and silly to me.
I'm fine with a gender neutral pronoun, but they/them confuses me. They are plural terms.
"Latinx" didn't work. Will we try "Axian" next to include the Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, and other people from South East Asia?" How about "Europeax" to include all of what we call Europe instead of just using Engish, French, German, etc."
As I said before, the gender thing doesn't really concern me. As far as I'm concerned, you can be any sexuality you want and I don't care. Needing an urban dictionary to figure out which of the 52 (at my last reading) sexualities you identify as does concern me. Most are not intuitive and many overlap to some extent or another.
Language was invented in order for humans to communicate in a more definitive way than using grunts and hand signals. It's bad enough that there are so many different languages that people from different areas can't communicate. Confusing English with a bunch of made-up words with no etmology behind them only makes communication more difficult for most of us.
I agree. Society has fairly quickly accepted Ms. and multiple other new terms over the years and I wish the nonbinary community could make up and agree to a new set of pronouns. I believe people would be far more accepting of a new pronoun than modifying an old one. But I am a lonely voice in the wilderness.
Like they/them referring to single individual.
"There's not a man I meet but doth salute me
As if I were their well-acquainted friend"
- William Shakespeare, A Comedy of Errors, Act IV, Scene 3. First published 1623, believed to have been written around 1594.
"I always delight in overthrowing those kind of schemes, and cheating a person of their premeditated contempt..."
"But to expose the former faults of any person, without knowing what their present feelings were, seemed unjustifiable."
- Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice, 1816. Many more Austen examples here.
"Every one must judge according to their own feelings."
- George Gordon, Lord Byron, Manfred, 1823.
"Hastely hiȝed eche . . . þei neyȝþed so neiȝh . . . þere william & his worþi lef were liand i-fere."
- William and the Werewolf, ca. 1350 translation of the French poem Guillaume de Palerme.
"Somebody could still get inside if they wanted but would have to work at it."
"In Louisiana at least one party had to know they were being recorded."
- Gamblnluck, Baby Challenge - New Version, 2021
"Somebody is gonna see it and target you. They will get it. How bad you get hurt when they do is the problem."
- Gamblnluck, Bonnie's Story, 2020
"I intuitively picked up on subtle signs that a patient was having problems long before they began to slide down the tubes."
- Gamblnluck, Cajuns Stick Together, 2020
"And that includes if you let one of your lovers into the house and they do the damage."
- Gamblnluck, Chance Discovery, 2021
YOu are full of crap. If, like your examples above, I used 'they' it is the euphemistic general they, not the they/them a transsexual expects to be addressed.Seriously, dude. I pulled up the first five stories on your author page, and four out of five are using "they" to refer to a single individual. Guess it's only a problem when other people do it?
What are you saying? I genuinely do not understand what you mean at all.YOu are full of crap. If, like your examples above, I used 'they' it is the euphemistic general they, not the they/them a transsexual expects to be addressed.
Using 'they' as the indeterminate pronoun, instead of as a preferred personal pronoun.What are you saying? I genuinely do not understand what you mean at all.
Bramblethorn showed examples of Shakespeare using the word they. He says I use it in my stories. Yes, as in a plural they. In my original comment I was referring to the they/them nomenclature some trans want to be called.What are you saying? I genuinely do not understand what you mean at all.
Bramblethorn showed examples of Shakespeare using the word they. He says I use it in my stories. Yes, as in a plural they. In my original comment I was referring to the they/them nomenclature some trans want to be called.
Like alohadave said only he used proper grammar..LOL
There you are, moving the goalposts again.Like they/them referring to single individual.