Hateful reviews

[IDaDoc]

I am relatively new to posting on this site. I have read submission for years and really enjoy the variety. There are submission on topics such as forced sex and incest that get favorable reviews. My personal interest is hotwife/"loving wife" and mild cuckolding. I have posted three submissions that have not only been criticized, but in the most vitriolic, angry, hateful manner. There are thousands of posts in this genre that don't get that. I would really appreciate feedback on why my posts seem to garner such dislike. They generally seem pretty vanilla to me. Maybe it's just trolls, but I didn't expect to encounter that here.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Doc

 

[HisArpy]

There are people who really really REALLY get off on hurting others over the internet. The more it hurts you, the better they like it. Even if that pain is only in their imagination.

I turned comments off for my stories after I learned that lesson. Anyone who feels the need to comment or give feedback to one of my submissions can still do so. However the trolls now look for easier targets because it's too much work for them to send an anonymous email/PM.

 

[gunhilltrain]

There are people who really really REALLY get off on hurting others over the internet. The more it hurts you, the better they like it. Even if that pain is only in their imagination.

I turned comments off for my stories after I learned that lesson. Anyone who feels the need to comment or give feedback to one of my submissions can still do so. However the trolls now look for easier targets because it's too much work for them to send an anonymous email/PM.

Oh my God, Loving Wives - "the Valley of the Shadow of Death." Unless you meet their narrow criteria ("burn the bitch" and so forth) you will probably gather ten to twenty negative reviews when you post there. Look at what shows up on other people's submissions. Yet, oddly enough, you will likely also get a few positive reviews and favorites anyway. And the voting score may not be as low as would be predicted by the comments. But there seems to be a group of people who make a hobby out of reading Loving Wives and then complaining about it.

 

[BiscuitHammer]

I've turned off Anonymous comments, which I didn't like to do, but I had too many cowards leaving comments that called for the extermination of Jews, black people, or indigenous people because they show up in my stories. I won't give them a platform. Let them nut up and declare what they feel through a registered account.

I've never posted a story in LW, mostly because of the seething cesspool of sub-humanity that seems to be the readership and their utter rage and hatred for women. Their desperate need to let that boiling toxicity out while sitting in mom's basement is ugly enough that I see no need to indulge it. Don't get me wrong, kudos to those authors who do publish in there, but I don't envy you the pus tsunami that those readers excrete from their crippled souls.

May your fortress walls be high and unbreakable, my friends.

 

[stickygirl]

You may not see comments for other authors because as mentioned, they've turned off comments in Options ( I think ) or else they've deleted them, which you can do as well.

 

[yowser]

Welcome to Loving Wives. As I have noted before, the only real thing wrong with this category is its misleading name.

Make it 'Hating Husbands' and accuracy is preserved.

Please keep writing Hotwife stories however, you may prefer placing them in a more civil category.

 

[TadOverdon]

People do things like that mostly because they think their lives suck and they're sure that it's someone else's fault.

 

[SimonDoom]

As Yowser said, Welcome to Loving Wives! You are not alone.

What you have experienced is extremely common, and you should not take it personally. It is not a reflection on the quality of your writing.

If you publish a story in Loving Wives about a wife having sex outside marriage, where both the wife and husband enjoy it, that story will draw vitriolic comments. It does not matter how well written it is. There is a rabid contingent of readers in that category who routinely savage such stories. There's nothing you can do about it.

However, some things to consider: I scanned your story "My Very Loving Wife." You've had a lot of views and a lot of comments on that story, and most of those comments are positive. You should feel good about that. Yes, there are trolls, but you have more fans than trolls. With these types of stories, you should focus on the positive and not the negative.

 

[Wyatt]

I write nonconsent/blackmail. Always blackmail. sometimes involving family members. I have a few million reads I think. In amongst that are the haters who threaten me and write me some abhorrent emails. Always anonymous. Makes me laugh to be honest. If you read nonconsent and then a story that has blackmail/incest in the header and you are offended by it then why did you read on? In the words of many British gangster films..."Jog on"...I don't care...What these people write to me is of no consequence.

 

[jehoram]

I wish there was a way to just block comments on specific genre topics, like "Loving Wives" but allow them elsewhere. That way, you'd filter out the dingbats.

 

[lovecraft68]

Its the cesspool of lit when it comes to comment.
Its also a very male dominated readership, that is if you consider incels or being consumed with cold male insecurity an actual man.
I know its easier said than done, but roll your eyes and move on. You'll get some decent comments too, you just have to weed through the crap. You can usually tell one of them because they insult you immediately, type all in caps or its a very long comment, train yourself to blink away at the first sign of any of those.
Or, like many are doing, take you stories to fetish where its a smaller readership, but more welcoming as the men there are actual men who are comfortable in their own skin

 

[lovecraft68]

I wish there was a way to just block comments on specific genre topics, like "Loving Wives" but allow them elsewhere. That way, you'd filter out the dingbats.

You can turn off comments on just the LW stories you post and leave them for everything else

 

[gunhilltrain]

You can turn off comments on just the LW stories you post and leave them for everything else

I've been on there twice because that's where the stories fit the best. I left the comments on because I wanted to read what the crazies had to say.

 

[lovecraft68]

I've been on there twice because that's where the stories fit the best. I left the comments on because I wanted to read what the crazies had to say.

I have three stories there. One was a burn the bastard to tweak the burn the bitch crowd. Interestingly it didn't get hammered as bad as I thought and over the years has crept up over a 4.50. However, it was published back in 2012 and although toxic it was nowhere near what it is today. I did one that was meant to be satire but the idiots over there are so filled with mindless hate they don't even know when someone isn't being serious. That thing is at like a 2.9.
My third attempt was an actual effort to see if I could write a story that could appeal to both sides. Starts off with the wife being an absolute bitch and the husband the helpless cuck, but as the scene unfolds and the husband watches her with the young man his demeanor changes, once the kid is done the husband practically throws him out then takes the wife hard and fast, having his way with her. So pretty much this game works for both of them. That one is 4.20 or so...but again, the category has really gone downhill the last three or hour years. The incel movement is alive and well here at lit.
I am debating tossing something there I wrote a long time ago as sort of a last parting shot at then morons over there.

 

[lovecraft68]

I got tired of the negative comments so I just quit posting my writing.

It was nice to see the positive feedback and to know people actually enjoyed something that came from me, but the negativity weighed on me and I strive for perfection and making people happy so I decided since I can't make people happy I would give it up.

Not to sound sarcastic, but you know the expression you can please some of the people....no one is ever going to please everyone with a story, especially the fickle weirdos in erotica. Shame you're not taking the good out of it, and letting the losers win.

 

[SimonDoom]

I got tired of the negative comments so I just quit posting my writing.

It was nice to see the positive feedback and to know people actually enjoyed something that came from me, but the negativity weighed on me and I strive for perfection and making people happy so I decided since I can't make people happy I would give it up.

I am sorry you feel this way, but I'm also surprised. The fact is that your stories did very well and received high marks and many favorable comments. In fact, the last chapter you posted of your series received an extraordinary number of comments relative to the number of views, and most of the comments are positive.

You have to have a thick skin, as an author. You have to. Enjoy the positive and ignore the negative. I feel sorry for authors who get so weighed down by stray bad comments that they cannot enjoy the positive feedback they get. I'm the opposite. We're all different, but I think every author would have a better and more rewarding experience by focusing on the positive. Look at all the comments on your last chapter of readers who want you to continue. Why would a few bad comments weigh more strongly than those good comments?

 

[gunhilltrain]

I got tired of the negative comments so I just quit posting my writing.

It was nice to see the positive feedback and to know people actually enjoyed something that came from me, but the negativity weighed on me and I strive for perfection and making people happy so I decided since I can't make people happy I would give it up.

I hope I'm not intruding on you, but SimonDoom is correct. I've seen your submissions list; you are making people happy! You've definitely found an audience here. In your last chapter people were - I don't think I'm exaggerating - pleading with you not to go. As SeaReader wrote: "Regardless, please keep writing and sharing your work. You have a compelling voice, a beautiful way of sharing a complex character's inner journey, an incredibly generous sense of detail, and a world-building talent that most writers here would never even attempt to approach. Please, keep sharing your stories with us."

That was only a few months ago. You can come back any time you wish.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Loving Wives... my favorite genre to write about. I also love a lot of the comments I get, yet there are some idiots out there who just have to tell me that they hope my wife and I die of aids. A lot of the idiots that read LW stories don't seem to understand that it's fiction. I write it just to tweak their little minds and for those that enjoy it.

I turned off anonymous feedback long ago. I even warn the read upfront about what to expect, yet they still leave comments about thing that aren't even in the story, so I know they didn't even bother to read it. Those comments get deleted. I even tell them that up front. Yet the still just have to comment about how they hate stories like that. They get deleted.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I got tired of the negative comments so I just quit posting my writing.

It was nice to see the positive feedback and to know people actually enjoyed something that came from me, but the negativity weighed on me and I strive for perfection and making people happy so I decided since I can't make people happy I would give it up.

Nooooo, even if just one person says they like what you write, you should continue writing. The others just haven't been educated properly, yet, and know not of what they speak. Ignore the naysayers, listen to the few.

 

[TertiusHuman]

As most of my stories get rejected when I try to submit them here, I can not say that I have ever received reviews on Lit.
I have posted on other sites and I have my fair share of reviews, so I will drop my few cents.

If I get a review stating: "Great story, I want more." That makes me think, "Hmmm, maybe I should think about expanding this story and the characters."

If I get a review along the lines of "Bad writing." "Pathetic story." "Dude, this driveling piece of diarrhea is the worst piece of shit I ever read." I will think, "While I agree, why do you say it?"

If I get a review that goes, "Good story, I felt for the main character, but I feel that your grammar needs a bit of work and especially parts that a proofreader will be able to pick up, like "wrought iron" instead of "iron wrought", you would be able to post a great story." or "Dude, at that range you put in your story, the aiming required for a .380 caliber will be insane, I believe that a 50 caliber will work much better in the context of the story." Those kinds of reviews I will actually take to heart and learn from it.

So if people slam your story by just telling you in demeaning terms what they think, ignore it. It is hard, but trust me. If you allow people who belittle you without trying to help you to dictate your writing, you will never learn nor grow as a writer.

The people who offer constructive criticism and are willing to respond to your questions when you PM them? They are the people you can listen to.

 

[gunhilltrain]

As most of my stories get rejected when I try to submit them here, I can not say that I have ever received reviews on Lit.
I have posted on other sites and I have my fair share of reviews, so I will drop my few cents.

If I get a review stating: "Great story, I want more." That makes me think, "Hmmm, maybe I should think about expanding this story and the characters."

If I get a review along the lines of "Bad writing." "Pathetic story." "Dude, this driveling piece of diarrhea is the worst piece of shit I ever read." I will think, "While I agree, why do you say it?"

If I get a review that goes, "Good story, I felt for the main character, but I feel that your grammar needs a bit of work and especially parts that a proofreader will be able to pick up, like "wrought iron" instead of "iron wrought", you would be able to post a great story." or "Dude, at that range you put in your story, the aiming required for a .380 caliber will be insane, I believe that a 50 caliber will work much better in the context of the story." Those kinds of reviews I will actually take to heart and learn from it.

So if people slam your story by just telling you in demeaning terms what they think, ignore it. It is hard, but trust me. If you allow people who belittle you without trying to help you to dictate your writing, you will never learn nor grow as a writer.

The people who offer constructive criticism and are willing to respond to your questions when you PM them? They are the people you can listen to
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Just curious, why did Literotica reject your stories? Based on your reference to guns below, did it have something to do with the depiction of violence? From what other people have said, Lit's policy on violence can be inconsistent. There are just too many submissions here for Laurel to read them all carefully. There is another site that has several moderators who read stories very closely, but it can take two or three weeks to get approval. But, yes, they are very picky about violence.

Gun calibers: whatever the topic is, there will be some reader out there who has deep knowledge of it. From what little I know, when you mentioned long-range and .50 caliber ammunition, I assume you were referring to a sniper rifle.

 

[Lifestyle66]

I am relatively new to posting on this site. I have read submission for years and really enjoy the variety. There are submission on topics such as forced sex and incest that get favorable reviews. My personal interest is hotwife/"loving wife" and mild cuckolding. I have posted three submissions that have not only been criticized, but in the most vitriolic, angry, hateful manner. There are thousands of posts in this genre that don't get that. I would really appreciate feedback on why my posts seem to garner such dislike. They generally seem pretty vanilla to me. Maybe it's just trolls, but I didn't expect to encounter that here.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Doc

I left several comments on your first story last year, and I just read and liked your 'Dream Cum True' story. I gave this one a five.

As the others said, you can't please everyone. And posting to the Loving Wives category has both advantages and disadvantages.

The advantage is you will get two to three times as many views there than if you posted the same story to Group Sex. The obvious disadvantage is the hateful comments and 1-ratings. If your story in Loving Wives builds over the next few weeks to rating to over 3.6, then it's great.

The profiles "Wargamer" and "26thNC" are two who will 1-bomb and leave a hateful comment on EVERY Loving Wives story with a shared wife. I think they don't even bother to read the story, merely scroll to the end to hate it because it's there. And some of the anonymous readers are doing the same. Some of those are other authors here trying to discourage newcomers. They are people who can't enjoy life unless they make others suffer.

 

[HisArpy]

...Lit's policy on violence can be inconsistent...

Lit's policies on everything are inconsistent. Whether you can forum post or submit a story which approaches the boundaries of any policy and get away with it depends on if you're someone with whom management agrees with or not.

And of course, management reserves the right to surreptitiously downgrade your submissions if they disagree with any subsequent forum post you make by sweeping and removing only your top ratings to lower your rating score while leaving the 1-bombs from obvious trolls in place.

Can I prove this with hard facts? No. But I've watched my stories plummet 25-50 points while not getting any new reviews. The only way that can happen is if the higher scores are swept while the lower ones aren't.

 

[purplishy]

I'm a rank amateur, with only 9 stories to my name, and I got my first hater recently. Someone called a story of mine "repetitive drivel"!

It seems awfully silly to get angry about free porn online. Some people just want to watch the world burn.

I take some comfort in the fact that other readers enjoyed that same story, and also in these wise words from a great jedi master:

Fear, anger, aggression. The dark side are they.

I've also found that Paul Ford's excellent article on "the Fundamental Question of the Web", or Why Wasn't I Consulted?, becomes more true as the years go by. I think it goes a long way towards explaining this behavior.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Lit's policies on everything are inconsistent. Whether you can forum post or submit a story which approaches the boundaries of any policy and get away with it depends on if you're someone with whom management agrees with or not.

And of course, management reserves the right to surreptitiously downgrade your submissions if they disagree with any subsequent forum post you make by sweeping and removing only your top ratings to lower your rating score while leaving the 1-bombs from obvious trolls in place.

Can I prove this with hard facts? No. But I've watched my stories plummet 25-50 points while not getting any new reviews. The only way that can happen is if the higher scores are swept while the lower ones aren't.

Why would the site owners bother to do that, give you personalised attention? That's speculative paranoia if ever I've heard it. Readers might be having a go at your stories, sure, but I can't see why management would bother.