Guys, a question

[Pyper]

I hereby launch another "Satisfy Pyper's inane curiousity" thread.

So, lately we've been having a rash of threads arguing over the attractiveness and dateability of overweight women a.k.a. BBW's. The majority of the board, men and women, have shown themselves to be extremely open-minded when it comes to weight in a partner, stating in most cases: it doesn't matter.

Now, weight is a very sensitive topic, so I wonder: if a guy had started a thread saying that he hated [blank] type of women or wouldn't date a woman who was [blank], what would happen? Now before you all rush to say that [blank] doesn't matter, consider this:

Say there was this woman with a great personality, etc. but she refused to shave. Anything. Hairy legs, hairy arms, hairy pussy, hell, let's throw in hairy nipples and stomach for the hell of it. Guys, would you still date her? Women, would you jump to her defense as vehemently?

Flame/discuss away.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Well...ummm...no, I'm still cool with it. Not shaving at all is certainly better than only shaving occasionally...razor stubble burns! Now, like I said in the BBW thread, there is such a thing as an extreme case, but beyond that, I just don't care.

 

[Problem Child]

Say there was this woman with a great personality, etc. but she refused to shave. Anything. Hairy legs, hairy arms, hairy pussy, hell, let's throw in hairy nipples and stomach for the hell of it. Guys, would you still date her? Women, would you jump to her defense as vehemently?

Jesus fucking christ, now you want us take the bearded lady on a date?

 

[Nora]

Re: Re: Guys, a question

Jesus fucking christ, now you want us take the bearded lady on a date?

But i thought you liked me, PC.

 

[Problem Child]

My girl, my girl, my girl,

Talkin' 'bout my girl...

 

[Problem Child]

Re: Re: Re: Guys, a question

But i thought you liked me, PC.

Trim the beard, but shave the cooter clean.


That's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it...

 

[Nora]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Guys, a question

Trim the beard, but shave the cooter clean.


That's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it...

*sigh* I guess we're doomed, then. So sad.

 

[Problem Child]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Guys, a question

*sigh* I guess we're doomed, then. So sad.

just like a-romeo and juliet.

 

[Pyper]

Hey, goddamnit, you're supposed to be satisfying my inane curiousity!

Take your witty bantering elsewhere!

 

[Guru]

 

[Pyper]

It depends on how over-weight. Are you talking hugely obese overweight? Or, a few extra pounds?

Guru, honey, are you in the right thread?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

LMAO...that's bad, but it makes me wonder...if she's overweight, and also hairy, do you still go for it?

 

[Nora]

Hey, goddamnit, you're supposed to be satisfying my inane curiousity!

Take your witty bantering elsewhere!

*hangs head in shame*

Yes, Ma'am.

 

[Pyper]

LMAO...that's bad, but it makes me wonder...if she's overweight, and also hairy, do you still go for it?

Right, I mean, aren't there limits? It seems to me that sometimes people on this board proclaim open-mindedness to a degree that is just not realistic. In real life, I think it would be genuinely difficult for most people to accept an incredibly ugly, overweight, hairy, etc etc person no matter how great their personality was.

 

[Guru]

 

[Pyper]

Are you talking bearded woman, or a few body hairs?

We're talking Sasquatch.

 

[Guru]

 

[Pyper]

Can I shave her first?

Didn't you read the first post, you sillyhead? No shaving allowed.

And nobody has really satisfied my curiousity. *sniff* Why do my threads always suck?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Sasquatch? Hmmm...that might be a bit much, but if she was a sweet chick with a good attitude, I'd give her a shot.

 

[Pyper]

Sasquatch? Hmmm...that might be a bit much, but if she was a sweet chick with a good attitude, I'd give her a shot.

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I'm a sweet chick, but I have squid-like tentacles coming out of my head. Would you still give me a shot?

 

[Nora]

My opinion is that we've got two different situations.

1. You meet a girl and she's already sasquatch. Are you attracted? Most likely not. Attraction is subjective and everyone seems to agree that people are entitled to be attracted to whomever they like by whatever standards they deem fit.

2. You meet someone, fall in love, then 5 years down the road she decides to stop doing the full-body-magic daily and uh, let it all hang out, so to speak. Do you *stop* loving her or use a requirement of her shaving as a condition to your continued affection.

Some people feel that that's ok.

Some people feel it's emotional blackmail.

In my opinion, it depends on the situation. As someone said in another thread, is it just your personal preference or is it a true barrier to intimacy? My opinion in this case would be that it's a matter of extremes. If she's neatly kempt and well-groomed and we're only talking about normal amounts of hair, it should be the woman's choice to keep her body as she sees fit. If it's extreme (nipples, ewww!) or is a cause of hygeine problems and becomes a serious disruptor to intimacy, then it's not ok.

Did that make sense?

 

[teddybear4play]

A serious answer to a serious question:

I have no problems, at all, when someone says they don't find ______ attractive. I may not particularly agree with their preferences, and I get disheartened if they apply to me or someone I care for, but they have a right to them, no matter how inane they might be.

But when I start getting pissed is when someone says that that particular trait should be a standard for beauty. For example, "I don't get why there's websites about fat chicks. Fat chicks are ugly." Well, yes, you may not like them, but someone else might. Just because they don't meet your threshhold for attractiveness doesn't mean all of humanity should adopt those standards. Those people are pricks.

TB4p

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

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I'm a sweet chick, but I have squid-like tentacles coming out of my head. Would you still give me a shot?

It depends...are your tentacles going to try to rip my eyes out and eat them?

 

[Pyper]

My opinion is that we've got two different situations.

1. You meet a girl and she's already sasquatch. Are you attracted? Most likely not. Attraction is subjective and everyone seems to agree that people are entitled to be attracted to whomever they like by whatever standards they deem fit.

2. You meet someone, fall in love, then 5 years down the road she decides to stop doing the full-body-magic daily and uh, let it all hang out, so to speak. Do you *stop* loving her or use a requirement of her shaving as a condition to your continued affection.

Some people feel that that's ok.

Some people feel it's emotional blackmail.

In my opinion, it depends on the situation. As someone said in another thread, is it just your personal preference or is it a true barrier to intimacy? My opinion in this case would be that it's a matter of extremes. If she's neatly kempt and well-groomed and we're only talking about normal amounts of hair, it should be the woman's choice to keep her body as she sees fit. If it's extreme (nipples, ewww!) or is a cause of hygeine problems and becomes a serious disruptor to intimacy, then it's not ok.

Did that make sense?

Ah ha, Nora! But let us think for a minute! A woman with hairy nipples is genetically programmed to have hairy nipples. She can't help it any more than an overweight woman can help being overweight (in fact, some might argue it's easier to shed pounds than fix the nipple issue).

So, why is it okay to say, "ew, hairy nipples, nasty!" but not "ew, fat chick, nasty!"?

 

[Pyper]

But when I start getting pissed is when someone says that that particular trait should be a standard for beauty. For example, "I don't get why there's websites about fat chicks. Fat chicks are ugly." Well, yes, you may not like them, but someone else might. Just because they don't meet your threshhold for attractiveness doesn't mean all of humanity should adopt those standards. Those people are pricks.

TB4p

Very good point, TB4p, thank you.



Johnny M.- As far as I know, my tentacles are benign.