Government shutdown over illegals?

Thank you for proving my point. In 2013 iut troops were paid.

But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized - at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do - it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.
- Barack Obama

Why didn't he heal the wounds?
 
But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized - at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do - it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.
- Barack Obama

Why didn't he heal the wounds?

You could always start your own thread

Still Whining About Obama
CowardRadio
 
The Democrat Party is the most destructive force in America today. They hate America as founded, they help our enemies, they hate our military, they advance the interests of foreign nationals against those of the American people, they undermine the Constitution and the law. They need to be ridiculed, investigated, pursued, hunted, prosecuted, and incarcerated where applicable. Their governmental criminal activities against our lawfully elected leaders needs to be brought out into the open air and displayed on the national stage. All of these deep state conspirators should be prosecuted sent to prison, never to breath the air of freedom again.
 
The Democrat Party is the most destructive force in America today. They hate America as founded, they help our enemies, they hate our military, they advance the interests of foreign nationals against those of the American people, they undermine the Constitution and the law. They need to be ridiculed, investigated, pursued, hunted, prosecuted, and incarcerated where applicable. Their governmental criminal activities against our lawfully elected leaders needs to be brought out into the open air and displayed on the national stage. All of these deep state conspirators should be prosecuted sent to prison, never to breath the air of freedom again.
Your Fox News bullshit is really anti-American.
 
The Democrat Party is the most destructive force in America today. They hate America as founded, they help our enemies, they hate our military, they advance the interests of foreign nationals against those of the American people, they undermine the Constitution and the law. They need to be ridiculed, investigated, pursued, hunted, prosecuted, and incarcerated where applicable. Their governmental criminal activities against our lawfully elected leaders needs to be brought out into the open air and displayed on the national stage. All of these deep state conspirators should be prosecuted sent to prison, never to breath the air of freedom again.

Stalin would be proud. :rolleyes:
 
The Democrat Party is the most destructive force in America today. They hate America as founded, they help our enemies, they hate our military, they advance the interests of foreign nationals against those of the American people, they undermine the Constitution and the law. They need to be ridiculed, investigated, pursued, hunted, prosecuted, and incarcerated where applicable. Their governmental criminal activities against our lawfully elected leaders needs to be brought out into the open air and displayed on the national stage. All of these deep state conspirators should be prosecuted sent to prison, never to breath the air of freedom again.

That describes the Trump administration to a tee. Brava!
 
The Democrat Party is the most destructive force in America today. They hate America as founded, they help our enemies, they hate our military, they advance the interests of foreign nationals against those of the American people, they undermine the Constitution and the law. They need to be ridiculed, investigated, pursued, hunted, prosecuted, and incarcerated where applicable. Their governmental criminal activities against our lawfully elected leaders needs to be brought out into the open air and displayed on the national stage. All of these deep state conspirators should be prosecuted sent to prison, never to breath the air of freedom again.

Quit your fucking whining, Petunia.
 
And a no comment from Coward Radio as well. Got cha.

Washington is broken. My whole campaign has been premised from the start on the idea that we have to fundamentally change how Washington works.
-Barack Obama

Why didn't Obama fix Washington?
 
And a no comment from Coward Radio as well. Got cha.


What we have done is kicked this can down the road. We are now at the end of the road and are not in a position to kick it any further. We have to signal seriousness in this by making sure some of the hard decisions are made under my watch, not someone else’s.
-Barack Obama

What did Obama do with the can?
 
Washington is broken. My whole campaign has been premised from the start on the idea that we have to fundamentally change how Washington works.
-Barack Obama

Why didn't Obama fix Washington?
Why hasn't Trump?
 
Trump’s historic accomplishments his first year in office

Why hasn't Trump?

President Donald J. Trump had arguably the best first year for any President in US history since Washington – in spite of massive headwinds from the actions of the corrupt and criminal prior administration, the Democrat Party and their MSM! Below is a list of his major accomplishments.

President Trump was inaugurated on January 20th, 2017, one year ago. Since then his accomplishments are nothing short of miraculous. In spite of massive attacks from the MSM, an investigation created through the efforts of the prior corrupt administration, and a Democrat Party that does all they can to derail him, the President kept his promises and did all he could to Make America Great Again. The results speak for themselves.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ous-accomplishments-his-first-year-in-office/
 
Year one list: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed

Why hasn't Trump?
With the passage of the GOP tax bill this week, the Trump administration has scored 81 major achievements in its first year, making good on campaign promises to provide significant tax cuts, boost U.S. energy production, and restore respect to the United States, according to the White House.

And along the way, President Trump even outdid his own expectations and slashed at least 11 major legacy items of former President Barack Obama, including cracking down on the open border, slowing recognition of communist Cuba and effectively killing Obamacare by ending the mandate that everyone have health insurance or face a tax.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/y...1-obama-legacy-items-repealed/article/2644159
 
The Year for Trump and GOP lawmakers: Rocky start, smooth finish

Why hasn't Trump?


WASHINGTON—President Donald Trump and the GOP-controlled Congress, who opened their first year in full control of Washington on rocky terms, are closing it with a flush of late legislative achievements: a sweeping tax overhaul, a long-sought repeal of a pillar of the Affordable Care Act and a surprise deal to open up Arctic drilling—all signed into law Friday.

After the high-profile collapse of a health-care bill to replace Obama care, the tax legislation itself is a victory that changes the narrative of the first year, some observers said.

“To be viewed as an effective president, you have to be viewed as winning on Capitol Hill, and this ends the year on an up note for him,” said Ken Duberstein, former chief of staff for Republican President Ronald Reagan.

Mr. Trump and Congress will add their 11th-hour achievements to the confirmation of Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and other conservative judges to federal courts and the rollback of Obama-era regulations through the Congressional Review Act, which until now had been frequently cited by supporters of the administration.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-ye...awmakers-rocky-start-smooth-finish-1513944001
 
In his own words..

Why hasn't Trump?

Even as Democrats continue to obstruct and play politics, I have never stopped fighting for the people, and I have no intention of changing course. I promised Jan. 20, 2017, would be remembered as a new day for all Americans – the day the people became the rulers of this nation once again.

For the past 365 days, that promise has been my guide.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/president-trump-op-ed-a-year-of-real-change/article/2646561
 

Right up there with all the polls that said Hillary was gong to win in a landslide. *chuckle*

Well, that was a cheap date. The dem's caved real quick.

But we've got another 'red line in the sand' coming up on Feb. 8th.

I wonder how many of those "Dreamers" have figured out they're just pawns in this game and it's the democrats that in reality don't give much of a shit about them.
 
So, no comment.

It was a gambit then and now when Sen Claire called for it. If the other party gives up and allows the funding of the military, then the filibuster can continue because it does not outrage the average voter. You should be smart enough to know that. That's the only reason that it was mentioned then and now. At any rate, it's over. We just witnessed the Schumer Shutdown Surrender, which btw, is what I have been saying would happen for days now. He didn't hold a winning hand with anyone but but hyper-partisans such as yourself. The market didn't crash, the government didn't collapse and an asteroid didn't hit us.

But, which is very funny, he's strutting around like a Bantam Rooster crowing that he won! He got something that he already had!
 
lol - The question in the poll wasn't Trump and Republicans.

I could also say that 41% said Democrats.
 
It was a gambit then and now when Sen Claire called for it. If the other party gives up and allows the funding of the military, then the filibuster can continue because it does not outrage the average voter. You should be smart enough to know that. That's the only reason that it was mentioned then and now. At any rate, it's over. We just witnessed the Schumer Shutdown Surrender, which btw, is what I have been saying would happen for days now. He didn't hold a winning hand with anyone but but hyper-partisans such as yourself. The market didn't crash, the government didn't collapse and an asteroid didn't hit us.

But, which is very funny, he's strutting around like a Bantam Rooster crowing that he won! He got something that he already had!

I wonder if that postulate came from the same reporter that asked if a 'black hole' had swallowed Malay Air 370?

Yeah, he got a guarantee that they could 'talk' about it. Schumer would trample his own mother if she were between him and a TV camera.
 
And it would then be true that 58% said Trump and the GOP. :rolleyes:

What the GOP should really be concerned about is what the independents think. And they pin the blame on the GOP.

But more independents said they would blame Republicans, 34 percent, than Democrats, 27 percent.

Which fits with the general trend of all voters:

A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, conducted Thursday and Friday also found more voters would blame Republicans in Congress for the government shutdown, 41 percent, than would blame Democrats, 36 percent.

source

And in the end if Trump and the GOP scuttle DACA, it will be against the will of all voters in all groups nationwide. If they hold DACA hostage for the wall, they should be mindful that barely a third of Americans support the wall - and additionally that over three quarters of Americans believe the US will be stuck paying for it if it happens.

Quick quick - someone from the RWCJ come by and scream "fake news" and discredit polling.
 
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