GOP pushes back on raising minimum wage

[SgtSpiderMan]

Horsefuck. There's a reason the rest of the country laughs at you during presidential elections.

Trust me, Florida has no right to laugh at anyone during a presidential election.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Medical care is a luxury?

No one ever said it was your responsibility to figure out. Looks like multiple people are simply saying your math does not come close to making sense and you're going off on unrelated rants.

Merc brought up a great point. Why would anyone work min wage when there is a higher paying job around the corner?

Yes it is...it's a luxury the overwhelming majority of the human population can't afford. Thankfully in rich ass Murikuh...we take care of ours when they come rolling into the ER all fucked up.

No they didn't...you simply can't read. I said it's not my responsibility and THEY (the poor poor min wage worker) needs to figure it the fuck out. I did...so can they.

So in your opinion, medicine is a luxury. You realize that when people go to the ER or a clinic they're quite often prescribed medication right? And especially if they're diagnosed with something long term (ie diabetes) that treatment is needed beyond their ER visit, right?

You're just floundering now. Medical care for oneself or one's child isn't a luxury. It's basic a basic need along with the other three things you listed. Because if you have an untreated illness you can't work to get food/clothing/shelter in the first place.

Yes I know that...why is it anyone's problem/responsibility beyond them and their family?

No it is not a need....the human species survived for hundreds of THOUSANDS of year JUUUUUUUUUST fine without it.

Don't sample your product before posting, Boy.

LOL

And you're backpedaling even further.

Have you actually clicked on the link? If you did you would have found exactly what I told you 30 minutes ago. None of these are actual apartments. It's a closet, or a single room you share with 3 other people, or it is only available until Friday (literally, one of these ads expires on Friday). You also said there were "plenty of places", your link shows 4 places in NYC for the hundreds of thousands of people in NYC on min wage. That doesn't come anywhere close to proving your point.

Did I fucking say you would get a god damn master suite over looking central park? No...I said it was shelter.

But there are 4 available for cheap as fuck any of them could get into. And this is one of the most extreme cases. Throughout the overwhelming majority of Murikuh you can find SOMETHING to rent for dirt cheap.

What about a single mother or father?

Impossible.

Why in the hell would you have kids when you know god damn good and well you can't even feed them?? They should have their children taken and be sterilized for stupidity and negligence.

 

[mercury14]

Horsefuck. There's a reason the rest of the country laughs at you during presidential elections.

Where do you see Ohio republicans voting like Dems? They're trying to annihilate unions and sign heartbeat anti abortion bills, keep gay equality from happening, etc just like every other state with too many repubs.

 

[Wrong Element]

There may be no greater example of ideology triumphing over reality than the belief that raising the minimum wage will cause unemployment to spike or otherwise wreck the economy. At least in the time that I've been in the workforce, it's literally never happened. This doesn't stop millions from fervently believing that it's true.

 

[mercury14]

Yes it is...it's a luxury the overwhelming majority of the human population can't afford. Thankfully in rich ass Murikuh...we take care of ours when they come rolling into the ER all fucked up.

No they didn't...you simply can't read. I said it's not my responsibility and THEY (the poor poor min wage worker) needs to figure it the fuck out. I did...so can they.

And you're distorting by generalizing personal experience to millions of people in a vast array of different situations. You're falling back on some highly bogus logic here.

And ERs provide acute emergency care, not general medical care. They don't manage diabetes and they don't buy weeks, months, or years of medication. Have you ever actually been to an ER or used medical services at all? You seem to have a poor awareness of what they involve.

Yes I know that...why is it anyone's problem/responsibility beyond them and their family?

No it is not a need....the human species survived for hundreds of THOUSANDS of year JUUUUUUUUUST fine without it.

My vision for our nation does not include Americans living like Homo Sapiens circa 200,000 B.C. Yours might be and of course that's your right.

 

[mercury14]

No it is not a need....the human species survived for hundreds of THOUSANDS of year JUUUUUUUUUST fine without it.

People also lived without clothes and shelter for hundreds of thousands of years just fine as well (much longer bro). But here you are saying those things are basic needs.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And you're distorting by generalizing personal experience to millions of people in a vast array of different situations. You're falling back on some highly bogus logic here.

And ERs provide acute emergency care, not general medical care. They don't manage diabetes and they don't buy weeks, months, or years of medication. Have you ever actually been to an ER or used medical services at all? You seem to have a poor awareness of what they involve.

What does any of that have to do with the fact that one can in fact survive on 7.25?? How the fuck did the human species survive without their beetus meds so they could go pound more McD's and coke?

My vision for our nation does not include Americans living like Homo Sapiens circa 200,000 B.C. Yours might be and of course that's your right.

It's not...I just think I shouldn't be forced to pay for someone else's "I can't help but be a total fuck up and for that you OWE me. " lifestyle, their fuck up their problem. Fuck them.

 

[BotanyBoy]

People also lived without clothes and shelter for hundreds of thousands of years just fine as well (much longer bro). But here you are saying those things are basic needs.

Clothes maybe in certain tropical areas...but we most certainly did not survive as a species without shelter or clothing, you are obviously a rich privileged lib who knows fuck all about survival and would prob starve to death if dinner didn't come in a fucking box or bag.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Clothes maybe in certain tropical areas...but we most certainly did not survive as a species without shelter or clothing, you are obviously a rich privileged lib who knows fuck all about survival and would prob starve to death if dinner didn't come in a fucking box or bag.

"By necessaries I understand not only the commodities which are indispensably necessary for the support of life, but whatever the customs of the country renders it indecent for creditable people, even the lowest order, to be without. A linen shirt, for example, is, strictly speaking, not a necessary of life. The Greeks and Romans lived, I suppose, very comfortably, though they had no linen. But in the present times, through the greater part of Europe, a creditable day-labourer would be ashamed to appear in public without a linen shirt, the want of which would be supposed to denote that disgraceful degree of poverty which, it is presumed, nobody can well fall into, without extreme bad conduct. Custom, in the same manner, has rendered leather shoes a necessary of life in England."

-- Adam Smith

 

[mercury14]

What does any of that have to do with the fact that one can in fact survive on 7.25?? How the fuck did the human species survive without their beetus meds so they could go pound more McD's and coke?



It's not...I just think I shouldn't be forced to pay for someone else's "I can't help but be a total fuck up and for that you OWE me. " lifestyle, their fuck up their problem. Fuck them.

Do you even know what the word 'luxury' means? I don't think you do.

lux·u·ry
[luhk-shuh-ree, luhg-zhuh-] Show IPA noun, plural lux·u·ries, adjective
noun
1.
a material object, service, etc., conducive to sumptuous living, usually a delicacy, elegance, or refinement of living rather than a necessity: Gold cufflinks were a luxury not allowed for in his budget.
2.
free or habitual indulgence in or enjoyment of comforts and pleasures in addition to those necessary for a reasonable standard of well-being: a life of luxury on the French Riviera.
3.
a means of ministering to such indulgence or enjoyment: This travel plan gives you the luxury of choosing which countries you can visit.
4.
a pleasure out of the ordinary allowed to oneself: the luxury of an extra piece of the cake.
5.
a foolish or worthless form of self-indulgence: the luxury of self-pity.

Medical care does not even remotely fit into the definition of luxury. You truly have a warped view of this topic if you somehow think otherwise.

 

[BotanyBoy]

"By necessaries I understand not only the commodities which are indispensably necessary for the support of life, but whatever the customs of the country renders it indecent for creditable people, even the lowest order, to be without. A linen shirt, for example, is, strictly speaking, not a necessary of life. The Greeks and Romans lived, I suppose, very comfortably, though they had no linen. But in the present times, through the greater part of Europe, a creditable day-labourer would be ashamed to appear in public without a linen shirt, the want of which would be supposed to denote that disgraceful degree of poverty which, it is presumed, nobody can well fall into, without extreme bad conduct. Custom, in the same manner, has rendered leather shoes a necessary of life in England."

-- Adam Smith

Sounds like nice fellow....fuck him and his bleeding heart too.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

You do whatever it takes to make more money, like past generations have done at the entry level.

What you say is true but I wonder if you are in position to be aware of what's really going on in society at that level. You might be, I don't know. I do know that in Jersey the cost of living is so high that $7.25 is not a living wage.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Sounds like nice fellow....fuck him and his bleeding heart too.

So, Adam Smith, the patron antisaint of laissez-faire capitalism, is a "bleeding heart" to your worthless sorry ass?

Good . . . well, not good, but perhaps useful, to know.

 

[KingOrfeo]

What you say is true but I wonder if you are in position to be aware of what's really going on in society at that level. You might be, I don't know. I do know that in Jersey the cost of living is so high that $7.25 is not a living wage.

Let's see . . . $7.25/hr for a 40-hour week for 52 weeks comes out to $15,050/yr. Try living on that!

 

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[KingOrfeo]

You take two of those jobs. Do whatever you have to.

Even if "whatever you have to do" involves killing the capitalists. Do it!

 

[bra_man69]

What you say is true but I wonder if you are in position to be aware of what's really going on in society at that level. You might be, I don't know. I do know that in Jersey the cost of living is so high that $7.25 is not a living wage.

OK then pack your shit and move to south are west texas walmart starting pay there is 17 dollars a hour.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LfjCx7U3h5c/UGj_UtzTfqI/AAAAAAAAB7U/xH8KlKtTUJw/s1600/Williston+Walmart.jpg

 

[BotanyBoy]

Do you even know what the word 'luxury' means? I don't think you do.

I do....when in the fuck was it ever a necessity? How in the fuck does 95% of planet earth function without, how did our species make it this far without everything just handed to us ZOMG WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!! LMFAO...grab a straw and suck it the fuck up.....OR GO MAKE SOME MORE FUCKING MONEY.

Medical care does not even remotely fit into the definition of luxury. You truly have a warped view of this topic if you somehow think otherwise.

Why not? You don't need a health insurance policy to function...go about your daily life. You do however need food and shelter, clothes are optional in some places but for the most part you need those too. That is IT!

Why is it warped? Why do you think I should be responsible for YOUR healthcare merc?

 

[LadyVer]

It makes sense to raise the minimum wage.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So, Adam Smith, the patron antisaint of laissez-faire capitalism, is a "bleeding heart" to your worthless sorry ass?

Good . . . well, not good, but perhaps useful, to know.

IDK...really could care less who the fuck he is or his political affiliations. Leather shoes are not necessities and neither is a Medical insurance policy. Esp not when i'm paying for it because they can't figure it out on their own.

Let's see . . . $7.25/hr for a 40-hour week for 52 weeks comes out to $15,050/yr. Try living on that!

I did it for 2 years when it was 5.50 an hr bitch....

Oh but I thought 7.25 was supposed to fix poverty!! Just like 5.50 over whatever it was before that....and before that....and before that...and before that...and here we are again...they need more!! And in 8 mo when everyone adjust their prices for this new artificial cost incursion on business and 9/hr doesn't have anymore purchase power than 7.25 does now?

MOOOOOREEE!! LMFAO like I said...you can make min wage 1000/hr...and in 2 mo when a Mc.Doubble cost 500 bucks ....MORE!!!

You stupid moron fucking theory that you can simply will/welfare/legislate the poor into middle class living is fucking preposterous. Russia failed...the EU is fucking drowning because of it and it's dragging the us down the financial shitter as well. Next..EVERYONE DESERVES A FUCKING G6 Personal JET...WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE..

 

[eyer]

If I may inject a splash of personal realism into a batch of impersonal speculation...

I work M-Sa, 0800-1800; that's 60 hours.

I make $30/dy; that's $3/hr.

This month, with its total of 28 days...

...I will work and be paid for 24 of them; $30x24=$720.

I will pay $275 for the roof over my head this month...

...and $30.35 for the pleasure of seeing evesdream's gorgeous tatas; that's $305.35 in total financial obligations for this month.

So, when you subtract $305.35 from $720...

...I have $414.65 this month to live on, or $14.81/dy - that's it.

I have no other financial income or obligations, I have no savings, I have no health insurance...

...all I must do is feed and clothe myself on that $14.81/dy this month.

It's going to be truly tight, and I might not be able to make my rent until Sunday, March 3...

...but the Internet bill will be paid this Friday the 15th at the latest, because there's no way in h3ll I'm taking any chance of missing what evesdream might post next.

 

[unregistered]

 

[SeaDaddy1]

OK then pack your shit and move to south are west texas walmart starting pay there is 17 dollars a hour.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LfjCx7U3h5c/UGj_UtzTfqI/AAAAAAAAB7U/xH8KlKtTUJw/s1600/Williston+Walmart.jpg

I think that sign should read $17 a day after taxes.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

You take two of those jobs. Do whatever you have to.

Vetteman, I hear that. Right now I'm there at that level watching people and struggles they have to go through on any day. A transmission could blow and now you have to pay someone to drive your kids to school. People lives can spiral out of control in a heartbeat. And neither the laze fucks who take welfare and are too lazy to work or the greedy billionaire corporate types who lobby for subsidies give a shit. That's the people paying the politicians to give our money to pay the lobbyists to vote again the best interests of the people.

I think I'll have another scotch

 

[bra_man69]

I think that sign should read $17 a day after taxes.

Right

Hey pay up mother fucker I win
Look two post before you

The over/under is two weeks and I take the under.