GOP pushes back on raising minimum wage

[MrBates2]

NY Times
Feb 13, 2013

Republicans are starting to push back on one of the new proposals President Obama made in Tuesday night's State of the Union, an increase in the minimum wage.

In asking that the minimum wage rise from $7.25 an hour to $9 an hour, Obama told members of Congress that the step would benefit millions of working families.

"It could mean the difference between groceries or the food bank; rent or eviction; scraping by or finally getting ahead," Obama said.

Republicans such as House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said an increase in the minimum wage will translate into a decrease of jobs.

"When you raise the price of employment, guess what happens?" Boehner said. "You get less of it. At a time when the American people are still asking the question, where are the jobs?"

The president also proposed indexing the minimum wage to inflation, saying that "working folks shouldn't have to wait year after year for the minimum wage to go up while CEO pay has never been higher."

 

[JinSun]

Good for those Republicans.

Fucking outsourcing.

 

[Sean]

Apart from the fact that right wingers have predicted the end times and the apocalypse ever since the minimum wage was first introduced, how do they think this is a vote winner?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Butt....Butt....companies will eat that extra cost!! They won't raise their prices or send as many jobs to the 3rd world as possible to make up for it, making the whole thing a fucking wash.

I don't know how anyone could accuse such a charitable group of people of doing such a thing.

Apart from the fact that right wingers have predicted the end times and the apocalypse ever since the minimum wage was first introduced, how do they think this is a vote winner?

Yet it's so effective here we are again trying to raise it. You could make 1,000 an hr and they would still be scraping by within a year...just like every other min wage bump.

 

[Liar]

"When you raise the price of employment, guess what happens?" Boehner said. "You get less of it. At a time when the American people are still asking the question, where are the jobs?"

If it takes 2 jobs to make 1 living, guess what happens?

 

[Beco]

If it takes 2 jobs to make 1 living, guess what happens?

I give up, what happens???

 

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[BotanyBoy]

If it takes 2 jobs to make 1 living, guess what happens?

You are forced to quit living beyond your means???

 

[Liar]

I give up, what happens???

Since making a living is non negotiable, the alternatives are welfare or death, you get a job deficit. In the words of Boehner; "You get less of it."

 

[Liar]

You do whatever it takes to make more money, like past generations have done at the entry level.

Only the fed can make money. You have to get yours from someone.


This is not rocket science, people.

 

[Beco]

Since making a living is non negotiable, the alternatives are welfare or death, you get a job deficit. In the words of Boehner; "You get less of it."

No, what happens is, raise the minimum wage, employers cut back hours.....go figure

 

[jeninflorida]

maybe people should strive for something better than a min wage job

 

[BotanyBoy]

Since making a living is non negotiable, the alternatives are welfare or death, you get a job deficit. In the words of Boehner; "You get less of it."

Before you try and carry this forward what defines "a living" ??

 

[Liar]

You are forced to quit living beyond your means???

If you are able to quit living beyond your means without quitting living, or taking someone else's means, then it doesn't take 2 jobs to make 1 living. Duh.

 

[BotanyBoy]

If you are able to quit living beyond your means without quitting living, or taking someone else's means, then it doesn't take 2 jobs to make 1 living. Duh.

We don't have that problem here in the US....7.25/ hr WILL feed/cloth/ shelter you.

 

[RobDownSouth]

NY Times
Feb 13, 2013

Republicans are starting to push back on one of the new proposals President Obama made in Tuesday night's State of the Union, an increase in the minimum wage.

In asking that the minimum wage rise from $7.25 an hour to $9 an hour, Obama told members of Congress that the step would benefit millions of working families.

"It could mean the difference between groceries or the food bank; rent or eviction; scraping by or finally getting ahead," Obama said.

Republicans such as House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said an increase in the minimum wage will translate into a decrease of jobs.

"When you raise the price of employment, guess what happens?" Boehner said. "You get less of it. At a time when the American people are still asking the question, where are the jobs?"

The president also proposed indexing the minimum wage to inflation, saying that "working folks shouldn't have to wait year after year for the minimum wage to go up while CEO pay has never been higher."

Boehner is channelling his inner-Ishmael, he's so sure that raising the minimum wage will drive up unemployment.

The facts say otherwise, as I showed Ishmael back in 2007

 

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[Beco]

So how is that you can raise the minimum wage and not reduce jobs? Barry Hirsch of Georgia State University has offered one potential answer. When the federal minimum wage went up in 2007, he and his co-authors found that business owners in Georgia and Alabama just made their employees work harder to justify the expense. (They also upped prices and saw profits fall a bit).

 

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[Beco]

You're an absolute idiot.

but I bet you he is fun a parties...

 

[Liar]

Before you try and carry this forward what defines "a living" ??

I've carried it as far as it needs to go.

But to humor you. A living is what is nessecary to sustain yourself so that you can make the next day's living. What this is depends on different factors such as where you live, your medical situation, whether you have legal dependents, what your community and society expects of you, whether what you do for a living adds costs, et al.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Only the fed can make money. You have to get yours from someone.


This is not rocket science, people.

Bullshit....money grows on trees

 

[Liar]

You're an absolute idiot.

Oh zing. I got told. You really got me there. Your logic is impeccable.

 

[Beco]

Obama is only thinking of gimmicky proposals that 1) sound good, 2) have no chance of passing, 3) generate an avalanche of favorable press from a sympathetic media who is largely ignorant of economics and 4) put Republicans on the defensive.

in other words......no help, 2013, another so-so year