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Only time will tell
look at bacteria...kill one with an antibiotic...it mutates and becomes resistant
Its the way of things
look at bacteria...kill one with an antibiotic...it mutates and becomes resistant
Its the way of things
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Ishmael
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Your concerns are real. I'm not going to make light of them. And what I'm about to say is not an argument 'against' anything you've said.
But;
If it can be done, it will be done. There is nothing that will stop that. No law, no agreement. It is the oldest law of mankind, "Knowledge once gained will not be unlearned." And the impetus to apply that knowledge is far greater than any device man will employ to restrict it. There are somethings that we have learned, from experience, after the fact, that are to horrible to use again. Nuclear weapons are an obvious technology. Unfortunately, they probably will be used again by an unsophisticated power that has learned the technology, but not the consequences.
The same principal applies to the bio-tech technology sector.
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But;
If it can be done, it will be done. There is nothing that will stop that. No law, no agreement. It is the oldest law of mankind, "Knowledge once gained will not be unlearned." And the impetus to apply that knowledge is far greater than any device man will employ to restrict it. There are somethings that we have learned, from experience, after the fact, that are to horrible to use again. Nuclear weapons are an obvious technology. Unfortunately, they probably will be used again by an unsophisticated power that has learned the technology, but not the consequences.
The same principal applies to the bio-tech technology sector.
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orange juice trees
as if I am a biologist...
but ever notice that even though babies tend to look like or be like their mommies and daddies, they are not just cookie cut outs? if they were, then that would be cloning right, and I keep hearing that cloning is a bad thing. So doesn't that mean that every time mommie and daddy make a baby some of the DNA or genes and whatever get altered in the making? get mixed up in a different way?
so do we do it every day? and we only have to wait nine months to see how it turns out...
plus I am not giving up fresh orange juice no matter what they do to orange juice trees...
as if I am a biologist...
but ever notice that even though babies tend to look like or be like their mommies and daddies, they are not just cookie cut outs? if they were, then that would be cloning right, and I keep hearing that cloning is a bad thing. So doesn't that mean that every time mommie and daddy make a baby some of the DNA or genes and whatever get altered in the making? get mixed up in a different way?
so do we do it every day? and we only have to wait nine months to see how it turns out...
plus I am not giving up fresh orange juice no matter what they do to orange juice trees...
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oh fer chrissakes...let's just do it!
let the chips fall where they may. it is hardly possible for there to be a mass deleterious effect without social darwinism countering.
let the chips fall where they may. it is hardly possible for there to be a mass deleterious effect without social darwinism countering.
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Re: orange juice trees
It's all a wee bit cleverer than that. I've heard that babies resemble their mums but not their dads.. This is recent research - It'll be on the BBC web site and New Scientist about a month ago - I don't have time to find the link right now.
I think they made some studies using computer morphing. The explanation is that babies have "learned" not to resemble dads because this protects them from potential rejection at birth with dads saying "That not mine, he's the curates for sure!"
Life is much bigger than humanity. It has survived the many ravages of mankind so far.
For me the attitude which I have, and I would feel comfortable if both governments and scientists also had it, is one of humility when faced with the vastness and wonder of life - that we let its beauty wash over us and that we proceed, less in caution than in love. Caution and love are sterile bedfellows.
angie girl said:
It's all a wee bit cleverer than that. I've heard that babies resemble their mums but not their dads.. This is recent research - It'll be on the BBC web site and New Scientist about a month ago - I don't have time to find the link right now.
I think they made some studies using computer morphing. The explanation is that babies have "learned" not to resemble dads because this protects them from potential rejection at birth with dads saying "That not mine, he's the curates for sure!"
Life is much bigger than humanity. It has survived the many ravages of mankind so far.
For me the attitude which I have, and I would feel comfortable if both governments and scientists also had it, is one of humility when faced with the vastness and wonder of life - that we let its beauty wash over us and that we proceed, less in caution than in love. Caution and love are sterile bedfellows.
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DNA is like...
...an alphabet. And like any alphabet, it can be used to "write" good things or bad...
The problem, it seems to me, is that while we've deciphered the "alphabet" we've not yet understood the "grammar." So a bit of caution is definitely in order.
Like any nascent technology, however, the potential is vast for both good and ill. Approaching recombinant techniques from the standpoint of "they're too dangerous, don't do it" will just drive further research underground, where we have no control or input into it at all. It also dooms those who would potentially benefit most.
...an alphabet. And like any alphabet, it can be used to "write" good things or bad...
The problem, it seems to me, is that while we've deciphered the "alphabet" we've not yet understood the "grammar." So a bit of caution is definitely in order.
Like any nascent technology, however, the potential is vast for both good and ill. Approaching recombinant techniques from the standpoint of "they're too dangerous, don't do it" will just drive further research underground, where we have no control or input into it at all. It also dooms those who would potentially benefit most.
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Luscious Lionness said:
How is it "unnatural"? Since it is a use of nature, done by humans who are a part of nature, it's difficult for it to be "unnatural."
The main difference is that it's directed genetic change rather than random mutation. And like anything else, that directed change can be good or ill, just like the random ones are.
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Ah ... genetics ...
I never did well in that class - all my flies died and then some escape and mutated with house flies ... I wonder what sort of gene mutation is flying around out there ....
Hmmmm ... makes me wonder. * buzz buzz*
I never did well in that class - all my flies died and then some escape and mutated with house flies ... I wonder what sort of gene mutation is flying around out there ....
Hmmmm ... makes me wonder. * buzz buzz*
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Re: Re: orange juice trees
My thought was so much littliler than than. But I think I was trying to say that natural things are good. In fact maybe they are unavoidable? maybe that is what 'natural' means?
BUt I will say this with some level of professional expertisio - caution and love are definetely sterile bedfellows.
freescorfr said:
My thought was so much littliler than than. But I think I was trying to say that natural things are good. In fact maybe they are unavoidable? maybe that is what 'natural' means?
BUt I will say this with some level of professional expertisio - caution and love are definetely sterile bedfellows.
