Gamer Thread

[CandiCame]

omfg there's a goddamn tomagachi app on the android store. Guess who just found a new time sink.

 

[CandiCame]

Shuddap. Marron is as cute a kid as Krillin could hope to have and if the world was fair he would have died a virgin. The same as every non-saiyan in all of DBZ.

Fuck that, Chi Chi's hot.

I remember one time I was talking to a friend of mine about Gohan, and he called him a human, and I, nerd that I am got pissed and was all, "Gohan's not a human." So he revised his statement- /pissily/, to say that Gohan was half-human. Which he's not. And I pointed that out as well. He made me fucking prove to him that Gohan had no human blood at all. His mom is half god, half cow, and his dad is an alien. Gohan is 1/4 god, 1/4 ox, and 1/2 alien. Nothing human about that kid.

I think it's pretty cool that the dude who processes the new returns for the afterlife is Chi-Chi's grandpa, so that when Goku dies he's supposed to go to Hell, but the dude's like, "Wait, aren't you Chi-Chi's man? Nah, you don't need to fight your way outta hell, just, what you do is you turn left out here and there's this long ass road called /Snake Way/, just don't fall off."

Because yes. Networking. Nepitism.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Sorry, meant the males.

And Chi Chi is only hot by crazy standards. She lives in a world with Bulma, Princess Snake, Android 18, Zangya (Bojack Henchmen) Videl, and Launch. Oh and she totally rapes Goku. Anybody who agrees to marriage thinking it's a kind of food is clearly unable to consent even if he didn't mind later.

I don't think Chi-Chi is anything but fullbred human. Though it's been a while since I watched DB. God in DBZ is a title not a race though.

 

[CandiCame]

Sorry, meant the males.

And Chi Chi is only hot by crazy standards. She lives in a world with Bulma, Princess Snake, Android 18, Zangya (Bojack Henchmen) Videl, and Launch. Oh and she totally rapes Goku. Anybody who agrees to marriage thinking it's a kind of food is clearly unable to consent even if he didn't mind later.

I don't think Chi-Chi is anything but fullbred human. Though it's been a while since I watched DB. God in DBZ is a title not a race though.

Yeah, the Ox King is a shape shifting demon god from the netherwold and her mother was an Ox that he fucked.

And Chi-Chi is totally a rapist, especially when you take into account that Goku may as well be functionally retarded. It's one of those things that it's really not cool to think about too much, because I think she's abusive too. When it shows them interacting he's flat out terrified of her. She screams at him and threatens to backhand him (in the Japanese she will /actually/ backhand him,it was edited out for some reason), and Krillun is deathly afraid of him too. She threw a blade at Roshi's head RIGHT AFTER MEETING HIM. Bitch be crazy. I think she beat the shit out of Goten as well.

I didn't say she was a good person, I said she was hot. Tho you are right about Bulma being hotter.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Okay I totally need to look back at Dragonball cus I don't remember any of that from Chi-Chi's background and it makes me wonder if that's stuff from the original story that didn't make the transition to DB or something cus that's the kind of stuff I 'd notice.

Goku isn't retarded or if he is he lives on a planet where everybody is. She is abusive, as abusive as you can be of a guy who can accidently kill you.

 

[CandiCame]

Okay I totally need to look back at Dragonball cus I don't remember any of that from Chi-Chi's background and it makes me wonder if that's stuff from the original story that didn't make the transition to DB or something cus that's the kind of stuff I 'd notice.

Goku isn't retarded or if he is he lives on a planet where everybody is. She is abusive, as abusive as you can be of a guy who can accidently kill you.

Yeah, it's part of Dragon Ball, the Ox Princess is a character from the original Journey to the West Legend. Ox King is one of the demon people, which is why he's fucking huge like that. And his father is the guy who mans the desk that does the paperwork to get you into the realm of the dead.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090316061532/dragonball/images/9/95/OxKing%26TeenChi-Chi.JPG

BTW "Chi Chi" actually means "Ox udder" in Japanese, which is a callback to her heritage. And it's kinda like her name is boobies so it's pretty funny also.

She also has telekinetic powers from her oni side, so that she can do things like shoot lazers from her mind.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7H2bweFNR8k/TPidXpnBeJI/AAAAAAAAA48/kqyz5ZWdllU/s320/Kid_Chi_Chi_Desktop_by_Innagadadavida.jpg

 

[CandiCame]

I am too lazy to walk up a mountain trail.

In a video game.

I have achieved whole new levels of slothfulness that were formerly unlockable.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Draw damn you!

 

[remy_lebeau8]

I am too lazy to walk up a mountain trail.

In a video game.

I have achieved whole new levels of slothfulness that were formerly unlockable.

I'm the same way in final fantasy. There's a quest I'm on that wanted me to run to like the other side of the world. It would have took me at least a half hour. I said fuck that and paid a moogle to teliport me like 2/3rds of the way

 

[CandiCame]

I forgot this bitch won't marry me until I get a big house and a big bed upgrade. She's a goddamn maid and in this game elves are discriminated against really bad because we're at war with an Elven nation. Kinda like those Asian internment camps after WW2, so she wears a hat to hide her ears. Point is she's asking for a lot, that upgrade is at least 200 gold.

This is a feudal society, she has no room to do this. I own my own land, 7 animal huts, and a house with a kitchen upgrade. I've got $120,000 gold in my pocket. I AM ALREADY A HUGE UPGRADE.

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/c9/69/dc/c969dc9309fa5e61de0b1317011cbcc6.jpg

And btw, your whole "hiding your race" thing slips when you're at the goddamn beach.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p196/LiliaoftheWind/cute.jpg

 

[Sean Renaud]

Why would you want to marry an evil rapist?! She's lying about her fucking species!! How is that not worst thing evah!

Of course she's an elf, she does kind of have a right to want the best and the fact that you stupid humans won't just roll over and take it shows just what barbarians you really are.

 

[CandiCame]

Why would you want to marry an evil rapist?! She's lying about her fucking species!! How is that not worst thing evah!

Of course she's an elf, she does kind of have a right to want the best and the fact that you stupid humans won't just roll over and take it shows just what barbarians you really are.

Actually, she told me about it. That's he reason I finally chose her. I mean, I already knew, but in game I didn't. And after she tells you she's always saying shit like, "I want to build a bridge between humans and elves!"

And I'm like, "I'll help you. By laying some pipe."

But seriously, I don't understand how you think that whole, "Lying to get laid" thing is funny. It's really, really horrible. It's not something to joke about.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Because you're failing to realize she's lying to an entire community. Like you're brushing off sins MUCH worse with far worse consequences. It's quite hilarious.

 

[CandiCame]

The elven genocide that's taking place in the kingdom of Norad is why this one guy came to the countryside. He has a half-elf daughter and he went awol, changed their names and is basically hiding out in the countryside and she has no idea that her mom was an elf (she was killed in the war) and is just recently figuring out that there's something different about her and it's the saddest thing ever because her dad is trying so hard to keep her safe.

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/34900000/Cecilia-rune-factory-34963338-256-192.png

 

[CandiCame]

Because you're failing to realize she's lying to an entire community. Like you're brushing off sins MUCH worse with far worse consequences. It's quite hilarious.

It's not hilarious. I'm dead serious right now. You legit terrified me last night and you don't seem to care. I have no idea what twisted experience makes you think that that's normal or alright, but I really don't want to talk about it anymore, because if we do we can't be friends. It's too ingrained in me. I like you, I like this site, and I fuck off here a lot. But this is a line for me.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Fine I'll be nice and return to pretending I live in Sugar Rush.

 

[CandiCame]

Fine I'll be nice and return to pretending I live in Sugar Rush.

Sean, it's not about pretending you live in sugar rush, it's the fact that you seem ok with it. You seem like a decent person, and I really don't want to live in a world where decent people are just ok with horrible, despicable acts that normally are reasons to incarcerate and ostracize people. Did you think I was fucking around when I told you that a group of friends will beat the shit out of you in public for that shit? And then you talk like it's no big thing. When in reality it's a huge, life shattering, family shattering thing that will, if it doesn't put you in jail, ruin your reputation and keep you from ever getting friends for the rest of your life. It's how nonchalant you are about it. I can't stand it. It physically makes my body shake to think about.

Edit: It's one thing to say, "We live in a shitty world," and another to say, "We live in a shitty world and I don't care and will make fun of the way most people do care."

 

[Sean Renaud]

No, I didn't think you were joking. I thought you were the kind of monster who thought that beating someone for lying was an appropriate response. I would think that someone with your life would know that physical force is ONLY appropriate in response to the same and under no other circumstances. I accept however that you live in one of those areas of the country where lynching folk you disagree with is socially acceptable and I see no reason to let it bother me over much.

To me that is barbaric in the extreme, like the only difference I can see between the place you call home and the middle east is the likelihood of surviving the beat down and I assume that a woman who had sex out of wedlock or didn't tell a guy she met at the bar that she was a mother of two either wouldn't be beaten or if she was that the law would actually do something instead of as you put it, they got what they deserved because they committed an attrocious crime.

If it was just ostracization okay, I'd shrug but I could get behind not hanging out with that dude. Gods know I've done it for reasons even I can't explain sometimes just because I was no longer in the mood to tolerate some quirk. But violence up to and including stabbing? Fuck that.

For me that's literally you putting conmen on the same level murderers and not even real conmen, more like everyday run of the mill salesmen who are telling you about a once in a life time never to be repeated offer that was made not five minutes ago with your neighbor and will be made again in ten minutes with your other neighbor.

 

[CandiCame]

No, I didn't think you were joking. I thought you were the kind of monster who thought that beating someone for lying was an appropriate response. I would think that someone with your life would know that physical force is ONLY appropriate in response to the same and under no other circumstances. I accept however that you live in one of those areas of the country where lynching folk you disagree with is socially acceptable and I see no reason to let it bother me over much.

To me that is barbaric in the extreme, like the only difference I can see between the place you call home and the middle east is the likelihood of surviving the beat down and I assume that a woman who had sex out of wedlock or didn't tell a guy she met at the bar that she was a mother of two either wouldn't be beaten or if she was that the law would actually do something instead of as you put it, they got what they deserved because they committed an attrocious crime.

If it was just ostracization okay, I'd shrug but I could get behind not hanging out with that dude. Gods know I've done it for reasons even I can't explain sometimes just because I was no longer in the mood to tolerate some quirk. But violence up to and including stabbing? Fuck that.

For me that's literally you putting conmen on the same level murderers and not even real conmen, more like everyday run of the mill salesmen who are telling you about a once in a life time never to be repeated offer that was made not five minutes ago with your neighbor and will be made again in ten minutes with your other neighbor.

It's not on the same level as murder. It's worse than murder. And I'm not 100% behind that. I think, personally that it is about on the same level. But as a society we've decided that it's worse. And though I might not agree with it, I know that people as a whole will watch a show about a serial murderer, like Dexter or Hannibal, but if there were a show about a serial rapist that shit would be knocked off the air so quick it would make your head spin. We can identify with a murderer, at some point, we can see that he's doing it for a reason. We can't identify with a rapist unless the audience is full of other rapists. The shit that you're talking about isn't even ok in fiction. It's such an extreme act that sometimes it does get an extreme response. And I admit that my little subculture is more violent than most. I bitch about it. But even in the other American subcultures, it's something that you are ostracised for. It's not something that you joke about. Because it's literally one of the worst things that you can do in our society. We've collectively decided that it is worse than murder. That's how bad it is. And again, you didn't say, "Yeah, fuck them, but that response is a bit much", you said that you didn't care are don't see a reason for a response at all. If that's what you meant, I totally forgive you.

Because of that. Because I don't like the way that we've decided that particular crime is the worst crime there possibly can be and that there are no distinctions. Much like how there are several different tiers of murder, it's possible to have tiers for rape crimes without downplaying the sheer horrible nature of the crime. Tho I, personally, would put rape by deception pretty high because not only has your body been violated, but your mind as well. And because a lot of the people who experience that have, statistically, some of the worst lasting effects, PTSD and anxiety issues, of all rape survivors. Because not only were you raped, you were stupid enough to let it happen. And it can stick with you for the rest of your life.

The fact that you would act like that happens all the time or that it's ok just really, really bothers me. The fact that ANYONE would say that, genuinely, and not for shock value, fucks with me because there are statistics on that and it's really rare.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Wait. . .you claim there aren't stories about serial rapists? If rape by deception is rape and the same as all other or in your case WORSE than regular rape you really need to start paying attention to all the shows and movies you watch.

As you noted earlier Chi-Chi basically raped her way into a family.

James Bond 'rapes' on average two women per movie (usually the third knows good and well that he's a Secret Agent but he's quite often using her to get to her boss/associate/organization.

Two and a Half Men is one of the most successful comedies of all time and the recurring joke is how sleazy Charlie is and how he's told these women all manner of things at the very least that they are truly "special" and he's never done this before then turning around and putting a notch on his bed for how many women fell for that line.

Nearly every comic book hero EVER keeps their secret identity secret until they simply CAN'T anymore. The things is we can relate to Peter Parker, Buffy, Clark Kent etc etc etc raping all day and all night because we can relate perfectly well to it.

Nobody watches Aladdin and thinks "Oh my god this is attempted RAPE" when he flat out lies about his identity. Nor in any of the other dozens of stories where someone wants to get away from their life and live something else for a while.

Hell just about every Romantic Comedy ever made centers around some kind of rape if we're using this standard. It's either "I started dating you because of a Dare, but. . .or we were Fuck Buddies but you grew on me and I didn't choose to tell you for a really long time because I knew it would complicate things or I lied I'm really Prince/Princess what'sherface.

How bout Sarah Michelle Gellar's recent TV show Ringer? Actually how bout damn near any movie with adults who discover their long lost twins.

Ever watch Suits? Burn Notice? Hell I would highly advise staying away from anything with secret agents, or super heroes. Or aspiring artists (they have a habit of leaving out the aspiring part until you get to the apartment.)

The thing is we don't (generally) base stories around this because it would be like basing a story around someone who lies on their work resume. There is nothing spectacular about it. Utterly unremarkable.

We also don't right fiction about cashiers.

In short it's not rare. It's not at all rare. It's so frequent that we don't even think about it. It's in a lot of our media, again to the point where most shows that "That One Guy" and people don't ostracize him or attempt to kill the bastard. They roll their eyes when he mentions his cabin in the woods and walks off with two ladies. At some point (if the show/movie) lasts long enough some woman will use him and toss him aside and he'll spend the rest of the day going "so that's what it feels like to be told your special by someone who just wants your body." Half will laugh it off by the end of the episode the other half will have forgotten by next time (even in shows that don't have strict cases of Status Quo is God.) Even the "stricter" shows will usually go with "You better tell him or her before they find out on their own" it's extraordinarily rare (I wont' say never cus you'll find that one show) for them to step in and stop the situation. Unlike Murder where most of us would either stop the murder, call the cops or help hide the body (distant third) but wouldn't bring it up in casual conversation then go back to asking you for a cup of sugar.

Our society has most definitely NOT decided that THIS is worse than murder or do we need to go and discuss Players for you? Cus you'll be hard pressed to find one of those movies where he's treated as WORSE than a murderer. At least that's the impression I got from Cruel Intentions.

Note all these movies and tv shows are pulled off the top of my head. I'd be willing to bet that via a deception you'd have a harder time pointing out shows with relationships that didn't/don't have that crime than ones that do.

 

[CandiCame]

Wait. . .you claim there aren't stories about serial rapists? If rape by deception is rape and the same as all other or in your case WORSE than regular rape you really need to start paying attention to all the shows and movies you watch.

As you noted earlier Chi-Chi basically raped her way into a family.

James Bond 'rapes' on average two women per movie (usually the third knows good and well that he's a Secret Agent but he's quite often using her to get to her boss/associate/organization.

Two and a Half Men is one of the most successful comedies of all time and the recurring joke is how sleazy Charlie is and how he's told these women all manner of things at the very least that they are truly "special" and he's never done this before then turning around and putting a notch on his bed for how many women fell for that line.

Nearly every comic book hero EVER keeps their secret identity secret until they simply CAN'T anymore. The things is we can relate to Peter Parker, Buffy, Clark Kent etc etc etc raping all day and all night because we can relate perfectly well to it.

Nobody watches Aladdin and thinks "Oh my god this is attempted RAPE" when he flat out lies about his identity. Nor in any of the other dozens of stories where someone wants to get away from their life and live something else for a while.

Hell just about every Romantic Comedy ever made centers around some kind of rape if we're using this standard. It's either "I started dating you because of a Dare, but. . .or we were Fuck Buddies but you grew on me and I didn't choose to tell you for a really long time because I knew it would complicate things or I lied I'm really Prince/Princess what'sherface.

How bout Sarah Michelle Gellar's recent TV show Ringer? Actually how bout damn near any movie with adults who discover their long lost twins.

Ever watch Suits? Burn Notice? Hell I would highly advise staying away from anything with secret agents, or super heroes. Or aspiring artists (they have a habit of leaving out the aspiring part until you get to the apartment.)

The thing is we don't (generally) base stories around this because it would be like basing a story around someone who lies on their work resume. There is nothing spectacular about it. Utterly unremarkable.

We also don't right fiction about cashiers.

In short it's not rare. It's not at all rare. It's so frequent that we don't even think about it. It's in a lot of our media, again to the point where most shows that "That One Guy" and people don't ostracize him or attempt to kill the bastard. They roll their eyes when he mentions his cabin in the woods and walks off with two ladies. At some point (if the show/movie) lasts long enough some woman will use him and toss him aside and he'll spend the rest of the day going "so that's what it feels like to be told your special by someone who just wants your body." Half will laugh it off by the end of the episode the other half will have forgotten by next time (even in shows that don't have strict cases of Status Quo is God.) Even the "stricter" shows will usually go with "You better tell him or her before they find out on their own" it's extraordinarily rare (I wont' say never cus you'll find that one show) for them to step in and stop the situation. Unlike Murder where most of us would either stop the murder, call the cops or help hide the body (distant third) but wouldn't bring it up in casual conversation then go back to asking you for a cup of sugar.

Our society has most definitely NOT decided that THIS is worse than murder or do we need to go and discuss Players for you? Cus you'll be hard pressed to find one of those movies where he's treated as WORSE than a murderer. At least that's the impression I got from Cruel Intentions.

Note all these movies and tv shows are pulled off the top of my head. I'd be willing to bet that via a deception you'd have a harder time pointing out shows with relationships that didn't/don't have that crime than ones that do.

The only thing that I've seen out of all of that are the superhero movies and DBZ. Chi Chi is totally ostracized but nobody calls her on it because she's a god with superhuman strength and will kill them for looking at her funny. In addition her father is known to go on murderous rampages and destroy entire towns. She's a rapey, pillagy viking.

And with the superhero thing, that's very much addressed because of how horrible it is. That's who most superheros tell their boyfriend/girlfriend. There are an assload of women who know damn well who batman is because he tells everyone he sleeps with that he's batman. Because the audience wouldn't be able to identify with him if he didn't.

Tho that's irrelivent to rape. I'm not talking about hiding information just because you're hiding information. That's just lying. It's the difference between saying, "So we're sleeping together and I think you should know that I'm batman, because it's dangerous and you're likely to get kidnapped by an Olympic athlete turned popcycle" and someone who isn't batman saying, "I'm batman so you should sleep with me".

Or, more realistically, "I will marry you if you'll sleep with me" or "you'll be financially stable if you sleep with me" or "I don't have AIDS, you won't die if you sleep with me" etc etc. You're confusing normal lying with rape by deception. Rape by deception is where you lie to someone in order to emotionally and mentally manipulate them into sleeping with you. It's a form of abuse.

Also, what world do you live in where Aladdin isn't called out on how rapey that is? The only reason Jasmine forgave him for that is because she would literally have become a sex slave if not for him. She was choosing between two rapists and the emotionally manipulative one was better than the giant snake monster. He has to come to terms with it as part of the movie! Remember where he's laying on a pile of pillows wallowing in self pity because he realizes that he's a horrible person and the parrot tricks him into thinking that Jasmine is willing to hear his apology? It's a major plot point because that's how Jafar got the lamp. If she had told her father, given that this was the middle ages in Islamic middle east, Al would have been stoned to death.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

I think I missed something here so I'm gonna change the subject. I just got a really cool book on civil war photos. This guy took pictures from the national archives and digitally colored them. They're cool as hell

 

[Sean Renaud]

Now you're nitpicking cus you know just how silly your point is Candi.

Neat book though Remy. Anyway I'll leave the Sugar Rush crowd to their caramel coated world where people are super duper good.

 

[CandiCame]

Now you're nitpicking cus you know just how silly your point is Candi.

Neat book though Remy. Anyway I'll leave the Sugar Rush crowd to their caramel coated world where people are super duper good.

I never said people were good. I know the world's a shitty place. That's not why I'm upset. I'm upset because you're acting like being a rapist is acceptable. I'm not saying "rapists don't exist". I'm saying I'm upset because you, who I thought was a good person, are making excuses for them and that upsets me. Because it's not one of the assholes who I expect to side with a rapist.

Edit: And nothing about that was 'nit picking' it was explaining exactly what you asked.

 

[CandiCame]

The fact that you think that point is silly is really, really unacceptable.