Gamer Thread

[CandiCame]

Thought you did. Maybe it was link being fucked by someone else.



But he could lift things up and put them down. He also learned the kamahamaha in like 2 minutes and that took roshi like 100 years

Yeah but that was because he's a sayian and those are muscle things. Roshi didn't take long to /learn/ it, he took a long time for his human body to contain it. Sayian bodies are meant to be stretched to capacity with their whole weremonkey thing, so their kai energy is a lot easier to access than it is for a human. But when it comes to things that require actual thinking like math or relationships or childrearing or even getting a goddamn driver's license, or defeating a foe in a way other than muscling your way through it, or collecting enough Kai energy for 10 goddamn episodes or someshit, he can't do it.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

Yeah but that was because he's a sayian and those are muscle things. Roshi didn't take long to /learn/ it, he took a long time for his human body to contain it. Sayian bodies are meant to be stretched to capacity with their whole weremonkey thing, so their kai energy is a lot easier to access than it is for a human. But when it comes to things that require actual thinking like math or relationships or childrearing or even getting a goddamn driver's license, or defeating a foe in a way other than muscling your way through it, or collecting enough Kai energy for 10 goddamn episodes or someshit, he can't do it.

Has there been a smart sayian?

 

[CandiCame]

You know, even though I really dislike Clark, that's the reason that I've always said he could beat Goku in a fight. Because he has the sense to use his brain in a fight. He's nieve, yes, but he has a degree in investigative journalism that I believe he got in only two years because he was intelligent enough to KLEP out of most of his classes. Goku, on the other hand, has never had a day of real schooling in his life. His wife had to teach his ass how to read after he was already a grown ass man, and he had a really hard time with it. He has attacks he can't use because he can't concentrate enough to use them.

This is a man who once gave his toddler son to an alien monster to abandon in the wilderness. Said alien blew up the goddamn moon instead of watching the child.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

I just got my Beta invite to The Elder Scrolls Online.

Envy me.

 

[CandiCame]

Has there been a smart sayian?

Vegita, Trunks, Gohan, Hikaru, Yumiro, Yomoko, Juro- there were lots of intelligent sayians. These were a people who had the ability to conquer other civilizations and instantly understand and utilize their technology. To build pods that were capable of sustaining and educating infant on their mission for their people. To conquer space travel and any other species they ever came upon. There are a lot of intelligent Sayians. And if Kakarot had never had his head injury, it's very likely that he would be intelligent; his mother was the commander of her unit, after all, and in mammals, intelligence is matralinially inherited. Vegita was expecting him to be far more intelligent than he is.

BTW, when you watch the Japanese in subs Vegita, as a character makes so much more sense. Why did we butcher his character in the first translation?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Holy shit I want to paint that on her wall. So she can look at it every night before she sleeps and be all, "Fuck yeah. I'm powerful."

Plus we were going to rent this house out and I really want the renters to just have that. Or failing that her friends in four or five years. She needs to be feared. I want me one of them animie super babies. Like if Gohan had never dropped Goku on his head.

Also, am I the only one who was never cool that Goku was seriously dropped on his head as a baby and it negatively affected him? Like he's less intelligent because of it. That was an act of child abuse. Yeah, it made him less evil, but it also made him retarded.

Well you're gonna need a first draft of it. And an angry tent. And some other stuff. I'll get back to your Goku argument in a bit.

Thought you did. Maybe it was link being fucked by someone else.



But he could lift things up and put them down. He also learned the kamahamaha in like 2 minutes and that took roshi like 100 years

Link being fucked by pig face? I'm frightened.

Has there been a smart sayian?

Okay here goes. First yes Goku was dropped, accidentally on his head and it apparently made him not evil. Which makes him officially the only being in the entire Dragonball Universe to be slapped good. I call bullshit and I assume the writers were simply incorrect about why everything worked out. Kinda like like King Kai told Goku that Planet Vegeta's guardian had called a comet to destroy the evil race before they could spread to the stars. (Seriously go watch the parts of the anime when Goku dies after Raditz and is training with King Kai.)

Vegeta is a fucking genius in universe and other than being an arrogant and stubborn son of a bitch that's pretty consistent throughout the series. Unfortunately he lives in a world where brute strength is almost always better than being smart. If he lived in Naruto or Bleach he'd be Sasuke or Uryu respectively and rock harder than anybody who's name wasn't in the title.

Also I had to read that twice to remember that Gohan is Grandpa's name. I always call him Loser Suck Man when I play Dragonball cus my friends insist on weird teams so Loser Suck Man->Bardock->Goku->Gohan->Pan is one of the only give man bands allowed to have Goku cus. . .yeah that game doesn't attempt to be balanced. It attempts to follow the show and be fun and sure Krillian CAN beat Frieza. . .if the Frieza player forgets that transformations heal and that Frieza is simply superior.

I just got my Beta invite to The Elder Scrolls Online.

Envy me.

You know I keep asking if anybody needs murdering. I heard you say soemthing that sounded suspiciously like "Sean I'm so terribly weary of life! Isn't there something you can do about me waking up every morning?!"

 

[Sean Renaud]

Vegita, Trunks, Gohan, Hikaru, Yumiro, Yomoko, Juro- there were lots of intelligent sayians. These were a people who had the ability to conquer other civilizations and instantly understand and utilize their technology. To build pods that were capable of sustaining and educating infant on their mission for their people. To conquer space travel and any other species they ever came upon. There are a lot of intelligent Sayians. And if Kakarot had never had his head injury, it's very likely that he would be intelligent; his mother was the commander of her unit, after all, and in mammals, intelligence is matralinially inherited. Vegita was expecting him to be far more intelligent than he is.

BTW, when you watch the Japanese in subs Vegita, as a character makes so much more sense. Why did we butcher his character in the first translation?

They didn't utilize shit. That was all the Plantary Trade Organization. They call it Saiyan Armor but it's not it's PTO issue armor. Same with those pods. All of it comes from Frieza's organization and nobody is clear on where it comes from. It's told a few times in DBZ but it's completely cleared up in GT shudder Saiyans are basically space Vikings. Stupid as shit but hard to kill.

A lot of the early translations were done by a combination of people who didn't know Japanese. . .like at all. The most famous case being Samurai Pizza Cats but a lot of early anime was basically a bunch of guys sitting around watching the episodes trying to figure out what happened and then voicing it. The rest are translated effectively by students who often got the word right but the defintion is WAY off.

Not to mention even good translations often fuck shit up. Like in Japanese the world Jizonegen (I think I spelled that right) covers everything from Cyborgs (You know all those guys running around with cybernetic limbs), Androids (Terminators) and genetically altered/created beings. Hense the confusion on the Andriods when 17 and 18 are cyborgs, 19 and 20 are Androids and 21 (Cell) is an artificial life form. A lot of people were very confused as to how an android got pregnant.

Also I forgot. Look ki control in DBZ makes no sense. Roshi took 100 years to learn the Kameheha and Goku took like a day to learn it not because Saiyans are superior but because things in the story needed to move along. Goku was an adult when he learned to fly (he couldn't fly until AFTER the fight with Raditz, it's not clear when exactly he got it since he ran back on Snake Way instead of flying but he apparently had it by the time he fought Nappa) By contrast Videl learned to fly over the course of a few hours and had no idea what ki was prior to that! Gotten could go super Saiyan BEFORE he could fly.

Suffice it to say Power LEvels are Bullshit.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

You know I keep asking if anybody needs murdering. I heard you say soemthing that sounded suspiciously like "Sean I'm so terribly weary of life! Isn't there something you can do about me waking up every morning?!"

I'll post some screen shots for you over the weekend if I'm allowed. I'll have to check the NDA.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Okay. I can live with that. Elder Scrolls is the first time I've been excited about an MMO since they tried Connan.

Yeah, I know, that's why I don't want to get excited again.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Okay. I can live with that. Elder Scrolls is the first time I've been excited about an MMO since they tried Connan.

Yeah, I know, that's why I don't want to get excited again.

Holy shit.. I just read the NDA.. apparently I violated it just by saying I received an invite. Oh, and no screenshots..

LMAO!

 

[remy_lebeau8]

They didn't utilize shit. That was all the Plantary Trade Organization. They call it Saiyan Armor but it's not it's PTO issue armor. Same with those pods. All of it comes from Frieza's organization and nobody is clear on where it comes from. It's told a few times in DBZ but it's completely cleared up in GT shudder Saiyans are basically space Vikings. Stupid as shit but hard to kill.

A lot of the early translations were done by a combination of people who didn't know Japanese. . .like at all. The most famous case being Samurai Pizza Cats but a lot of early anime was basically a bunch of guys sitting around watching the episodes trying to figure out what happened and then voicing it. The rest are translated effectively by students who often got the word right but the defintion is WAY off.

Not to mention even good translations often fuck shit up. Like in Japanese the world Jizonegen (I think I spelled that right) covers everything from Cyborgs (You know all those guys running around with cybernetic limbs), Androids (Terminators) and genetically altered/created beings. Hense the confusion on the Andriods when 17 and 18 are cyborgs, 19 and 20 are Androids and 21 (Cell) is an artificial life form. A lot of people were very confused as to how an android got pregnant.

Also I forgot. Look ki control in DBZ makes no sense. Roshi took 100 years to learn the Kameheha and Goku took like a day to learn it not because Saiyans are superior but because things in the story needed to move along. Goku was an adult when he learned to fly (he couldn't fly until AFTER the fight with Raditz, it's not clear when exactly he got it since he ran back on Snake Way instead of flying but he apparently had it by the time he fought Nappa) By contrast Videl learned to fly over the course of a few hours and had no idea what ki was prior to that! Gotten could go super Saiyan BEFORE he could fly.

Suffice it to say Power LEvels are Bullshit.

I think goku could always fly he just didn't give a fuck. I think he rememebered he could fly once he escaped from hell. Like he went oh ya I can fly and flew the rest of snake way. As for preggo androids, krillen admits to goku he used the dragonballs to get her working lady parts. Goku asked how androids make babies. Or maybr she always had parts. I don't remember but it was explained

 

[remy_lebeau8]

What was that u_d? Didnt hear you

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

What was that u_d? Didnt hear you

I didn't say anything. Don't mind me. Just waiting for a game client that shall not be named to finish downloading.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Holy shit.. I just read the NDA.. apparently I violated it just by saying I received an invite. Oh, and no screenshots..

LMAO!

Damn! Of course I'm sure they expect you to do that. Oh well you can tell us all about it when it's farther along.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I think goku could always fly he just didn't give a fuck. I think he rememebered he could fly once he escaped from hell. Like he went oh ya I can fly and flew the rest of snake way. As for preggo androids, krillen admits to goku he used the dragonballs to get her working lady parts. Goku asked how androids make babies. Or maybr she always had parts. I don't remember but it was explained

Goku clearly couldn't fly during Dragon Ball or during Raditz, he still had to use the Nimbus cloud at that point. And 18 always had lady parts. She's a cyborg, Gero made her BETTER kinda like Frieza just less invasive and better cosmetics. But she wasn't a robot like 19 and 20 where you could rip off limbs or anything. It was explained, mostly because it confused a lot of people. If I recall properly in the Japanese they are sharing a dirty joke instead of explaining why that worked.

 

[CandiCame]

They didn't utilize shit. That was all the Plantary Trade Organization. They call it Saiyan Armor but it's not it's PTO issue armor. Same with those pods. All of it comes from Frieza's organization and nobody is clear on where it comes from. It's told a few times in DBZ but it's completely cleared up in GT shudder Saiyans are basically space Vikings. Stupid as shit but hard to kill.

A lot of the early translations were done by a combination of people who didn't know Japanese. . .like at all. The most famous case being Samurai Pizza Cats but a lot of early anime was basically a bunch of guys sitting around watching the episodes trying to figure out what happened and then voicing it. The rest are translated effectively by students who often got the word right but the defintion is WAY off.

Not to mention even good translations often fuck shit up. Like in Japanese the world Jizonegen (I think I spelled that right) covers everything from Cyborgs (You know all those guys running around with cybernetic limbs), Androids (Terminators) and genetically altered/created beings. Hense the confusion on the Andriods when 17 and 18 are cyborgs, 19 and 20 are Androids and 21 (Cell) is an artificial life form. A lot of people were very confused as to how an android got pregnant.

Also I forgot. Look ki control in DBZ makes no sense. Roshi took 100 years to learn the Kameheha and Goku took like a day to learn it not because Saiyans are superior but because things in the story needed to move along. Goku was an adult when he learned to fly (he couldn't fly until AFTER the fight with Raditz, it's not clear when exactly he got it since he ran back on Snake Way instead of flying but he apparently had it by the time he fought Nappa) By contrast Videl learned to fly over the course of a few hours and had no idea what ki was prior to that! Gotten could go super Saiyan BEFORE he could fly.

Suffice it to say Power LEvels are Bullshit.

We don't talk about GT, Sean. I'll think you not to mention it again in my presence.

And I'm also still pretty sure that it was retconned that Goku can learn Ki moves faster because Sayian somehow.

 

[CandiCame]

Goku clearly couldn't fly during Dragon Ball or during Raditz, he still had to use the Nimbus cloud at that point. And 18 always had lady parts. She's a cyborg, Gero made her BETTER kinda like Frieza just less invasive and better cosmetics. But she wasn't a robot like 19 and 20 where you could rip off limbs or anything. It was explained, mostly because it confused a lot of people. If I recall properly in the Japanese they are sharing a dirty joke instead of explaining why that worked.

Goku learned to fly from Kami in his training before the twenty-third Budokai. That was the entire point of Goku defeating Piccolo. Goku is presumed to be dead until he suddenly attacks from the sky, revealing that he can fly. Since all four of his limbs were disabled, it was what saved him, remember?

 

[Sean Renaud]

We don't talk about GT, Sean. I'll think you not to mention it again in my presence.

And I'm also still pretty sure that it was retconned that Goku can learn Ki moves faster because Sayian somehow.

We try not to talk about that train wreck I know. Still we know that all that stuff comes from Frieza's army and that's why even before his death King Vegeta was at best a high tier bitch in the PTO. Well below Zarbon and Dodoria who are below the Ginyu Force and that's the highest he could possibly have been, he might have been lower than THAT. Still everybody wears that style of armor and flies in those style of pods because they all come from one source.

They may have retconned it as Saiyans learning faster than humans. I'm just saying cannon doesn't support that claim at all. Saiyans have three things really going for them. They can transform into giant apes, after X-power and getting pissed off they can got Super and near death experiences make them stronger.

 

[CandiCame]

We try not to talk about that train wreck I know. Still we know that all that stuff comes from Frieza's army and that's why even before his death King Vegeta was at best a high tier bitch in the PTO. Well below Zarbon and Dodoria who are below the Ginyu Force and that's the highest he could possibly have been, he might have been lower than THAT. Still everybody wears that style of armor and flies in those style of pods because they all come from one source.

They may have retconned it as Saiyans learning faster than humans. I'm just saying cannon doesn't support that claim at all. Saiyans have three things really going for them. They can transform into giant apes, after X-power and getting pissed off they can got Super and near death experiences make them stronger.

Actually, not all Saiyans can even do the super form. That was a legendary thing, remember? That's why Vegita got all pissed that Goku could do it because he wasn't even /royalty/ and fuck that. To the point that his jealous wet dream obsession was so bad Bulma shot him in the chest with an experimental weapon to get him to shut the fuck up.

But it totally is supported by the canonical story, in the manga it's mentioned several times by different teachers that Goku's body can learn moves that his brain can't comprehend because of the way his body's muscular structure is set up. It's also why he heals faster and whatnot. Little cat guy talks about it in Dragon Ball, and then fatass god talks about it in dbz. It's also why he has trouble with some Ki powers, even though his body can do them (like the teleportation) because his Sayian body is ready to learn new Ki attacks all the time, but his "I got dropped on the head as a child" brain can't focus enough to actually use them. They go into pretty deep detail about it and make him mediate to fix it. It's not a small nod to the audience, it's a plot point.

 

[CandiCame]

Holy fucking shit am I arguing about foreign comics on the internet? I think I just leveled up in nerdiness. +1 int, -1 chr

 

[HAL_9000]

I've been enjoying a Castlevania incarnation lately.

Castlevania, LOS MOF HD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlevania:_Lords_of_Shadow_–_Mirror_of_Fate

 

[Sean Renaud]

I haven't played that Castlevania yet, I've been meanting to sit down and do Sword of Darkness I think it is. I've beaten all but one of the GBA ones and all the DS ones to date. Just like Megaman did they need to release all those on a single fucking disc. I shouldn't need to dig out my long dead Genesis to play Bloodlines or whatever the one is with the dude with a spear.

And you're right, he could fly towards the end of DB, I only watched that stuff once. Still he apparently forgot he could fly during the trip to King Kai's place and if we from what we learn later in the Buu Saga doing Ki related things is EASIER not harder in Otherworld.

 

[AllyRose]

Sorry, I came into this thread thinking there were pregnant cyborgs. Apparently I was misled.

 

[CandiCame]

Sorry, I came into this thread thinking there were pregnant cyborgs. Apparently I was misled.

There were but the babies were ugo

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071210151354/dragonball/images/b/bd/Marron_naso1.jpg

 

[Sean Renaud]

Shuddap. Marron is as cute a kid as Krillin could hope to have and if the world was fair he would have died a virgin. The same as every non-saiyan in all of DBZ.