Feelings

Being an engineer by training and trade my first inclination was to try to 'fix' things, still do to an extent. Of course that only got me deeper in the shit.

Now I try to go a different route. No matter what it is I'll say something like, "Do you want to tell me about it?" And then listen patiently while interjecting appropriate questions from time to time. It seems to work, most of the time anyway. They feel better and I try to not tie up to many brain cells remembering the details of all sorts of stuff that is mostly transient and irrelevant.

Ishmael
 
Me too. All the caring in the world doesn't equal one simple act. And I don't hafta like people to do the right thing.

The girlz wanna jawbone shit to death, and do nuthin.


I don't think you can accuse only women of being this way. I have personally had my share of guys who have annoyed me with the

why are you quiet?

what are you thinking about?

are you quiet because you are upset?

I mean shut up! Can't I take a few minutes to myself to just gather my own thoughts. Do I need to tell someone else, friend/ partner/ lover, every thought that crosses my mind.

I think the whole feelings thing is really based on your personality type and not so much your gender.
 
I don't think you can accuse only women of being this way. I have personally had my share of guys who have annoyed me with the

why are you quiet?

what are you thinking about?

are you quiet because you are upset?

I mean shut up! Can't I take a few minutes to myself to just gather my own thoughts. Do I need to tell someone else, friend/ partner/ lover, every thought that crosses my mind.

I think the whole feelings thing is really based on your personality type and not so much your gender.

What works for me is: Paying attention to what a woman says, asking questions if I'm confused or don't get what she means, and feeling interested in her presentation. I believe women respond to genuine-ness. Anything else is a discount of her. And I never award her a plastic fuzzy baloney trophy.
 
Being an engineer by training and trade my first inclination was to try to 'fix' things, still do to an extent. Of course that only got me deeper in the shit.

Now I try to go a different route. No matter what it is I'll say something like, "Do you want to tell me about it?" And then listen patiently while interjecting appropriate questions from time to time. It seems to work, most of the time anyway. They feel better and I try to not tie up to many brain cells remembering the details of all sorts of stuff that is mostly transient and irrelevant.

Ishmael

But they do want you to fix it. And they want you to fuck it. Its how we wrap the package that matters to them.
 
But they do want you to fix it. And they want you to fuck it. Its how we wrap the package that matters to them.

I agree with Ishmael on this one.

When women talk about their problems it is mainly to vent. I expect the other person to patiently listen and only talk enough to show that they are actually listening. It is very annoying when the other person interrupts with 'solutions'.

Men on the other hand talk about a problem to look for a solution.


JBJ, the women who want someone else to fix their problems are a subset of women who don't like to take charge of their own life. I hear there used to be lots of those types before the 50s in America.
 
I agree with Ishmael on this one.

When women talk about their problems it is mainly to vent. I expect the other person to patiently listen and only talk enough to show that they are actually listening. It is very annoying when the other person interrupts with 'solutions'.

Men on the other hand talk about a problem to look for a solution.


JBJ, the women who want someone else to fix their problems are a subset of women who don't like to take charge of their own life. I hear there used to be lots of those types before the 50s in America.

Theyre still with us. I think theyre more common now.
 
I agree with Ishmael on this one.

When women talk about their problems it is mainly to vent. I expect the other person to patiently listen and only talk enough to show that they are actually listening. It is very annoying when the other person interrupts with 'solutions'.

Men on the other hand talk about a problem to look for a solution.


JBJ, the women who want someone else to fix their problems are a subset of women who don't like to take charge of their own life. I hear there used to be lots of those types before the 50s in America.

Theyre still with us. I think theyre more common now.

I don't know about more common, but they're certainly still with us.

Ishmael
 
So...you're having feelings about feelings? Frustrated?

Awww. Pobrecito.
 
Women fight their nature. Their nature is the core of their discontent.

Do you want to talk about it? Work out some of your feelings on the subject? I'll get an anatomically correct model of the brain. Where did the bad lady touch you?
 
Do you want to talk about it? Work out some of your feelings on the subject? I'll get an anatomically correct model of the brain. Where did the bad lady touch you?

The reality touches a nerve with you and iggy fluff.
 
For obvious troll being obvious:

Jonathan Coulton, "Someone is Crazy"

Gender neutral

Is Bitter there?
I'd rather talk to them than Disappointed
Though they're not quite as fun as Good and Mad
You better put them on
They can change the game
They can make me say I'm sorry

You throw your hands up in the air and swear you didn't know
You think the world revolves around you but it doesn't so you sit and spin
Baby, someone is crazy and it's you
Someone is crazy and it's you
Someone is crazy and it's you

You set the trap
You lie in wait till someone trips the wire
Then you jump out to get your feelings hurt
And you act surprised
How did that get there?
Why does everybody hate me?

We're all familiar with the tragedy of being you
It's hard to show you any sympathy when all you do is beg for pain
Baby, someone is crazy and it's you
Someone is crazy and it's you
Someone is crazy and it's you

You're all alone
Well maybe that's because you're so unpleasant
You might consider dialing back a bit
Put those claws away
Stop the waterworks
Spend a couple evenings sober

The world's against you, so you think or maybe wish it was
At least that way someone would care but baby, no one does, not even you
Baby, someone is crazy and it's you
Someone is crazy and it's you
Someone is crazy and it's you
 
Remove technology and government, and gals are right back to kinder, kuchen, and kirche.
 
Remove technology and government, and gals are right back to kinder, kuchen, and kirche.

And your whining about women isn't asking for other people to talk to you and validate your opinion about it...how? Exactly? You can use little words.
 
And your whining about women isn't asking for other people to talk to you and validate your opinion about it...how? Exactly? You can use little words.

Youre rattled. Your entire feminist philosophy rests on government aid and technology.
 
Youre rattled. Your entire feminist philosophy rests on government aid and technology.

I could say you were a Pez dispenser, but that wouldn't make it true.

I like to think you're laughing along with me and just trying to provoke bullshit because it makes you laugh.

Because if you're not fucking around wasting time having fun, the alternative is truly, truly dismal.

Either way, waste of your time and breath, and if it pisses you off that you can't actually get to me, or if you approve...I don't really care. Your "tests" reveal so much more about you than they do about other people.
 
I could say you were a Pez dispenser, but that wouldn't make it true.

I like to think you're laughing along with me and just trying to provoke bullshit because it makes you laugh.

Because if you're not fucking around wasting time having fun, the alternative is truly, truly dismal.

Either way, waste of your time and breath, and if it pisses you off that you can't actually get to me, or if you approve...I don't really care. Your "tests" reveal so much more about you than they do about other people.

People say that to me all the time but women have just two things I want: Money and pussy. Its unlikely I'll get either from you, so your anger is irrelevant....just a by-product of the interaction.
 
People say that to me all the time but women have just two things I want: Money and pussy. Its unlikely I'll get either from you, so your anger is irrelevant....just a by-product of the interaction.

And I'm not in line for your approval. I just find it hilarious that you whine that you don't get it, when you're so offensive and selfish that of course you can't provide companionship or get it under any reasonable expectation of being a human being who cares about someone else.

You give shit, you get shit. Pretty much that's the social math.
 
And I'm not in line for your approval. I just find it hilarious that you whine that you don't get it, when you're so offensive and selfish that of course you can't provide companionship or get it under any reasonable expectation of being a human being who cares about someone else.

You give shit, you get shit. Pretty much that's the social math.

I'm married to the same woman for 40 years. Maybe there's more to me than you know.
 
I'm married to the same woman for 40 years. Maybe there's more to me than you know.

Of course there's more to you than I know. But you also told me you had a girlfriend and not a wife. Maybe I don't really want to know, I just think your presentation is inconsistent and not worth presenting in many cases.

But you complain all the time about life, the world and the universe and you present yourself as a problem and not a solution.

Your choice, but don't claim I'm ignorant of your better qualities if you never present better qualities.

I'm okay with being ignorant of who you are, why you're okay with presenting yourself as a misogynist dickhead is your business.
 
Of course there's more to you than I know. But you also told me you had a girlfriend and not a wife. Maybe I don't really want to know, I just think your presentation is inconsistent and not worth presenting in many cases.

But you complain all the time about life, the world and the universe and you present yourself as a problem and not a solution.

Your choice, but don't claim I'm ignorant of your better qualities if you never present better qualities.

I'm okay with being ignorant of who you are, why you're okay with presenting yourself as a misogynist dickhead is your business.

I have both at times.

You have your impression of me, others have theirs, I have my own.

Misogynist? I've been called everything but an eskimo. I have my own philosophy about the tender gender, and I alter it occasionally. That said, I was in awe of females when I was 18, and learned from experience.
 
I have both at times.

You have your impression of me, others have theirs, I have my own.

Misogynist? I've been called everything but an eskimo. I have my own philosophy about the tender gender, and I alter it occasionally. That said, I was in awe of females when I was 18, and learned from experience.

Yeah, don't expect "good guy" credit for your real life when you're just stirring shit for your own amusement.

Whatever your reality or your motives, they're not original. You wouldn't be the first person on the interwebz to portray themselves as not who they are in reality.

You're trolling and venting for your own reasons, and the reasons are irrelevant to me, the content is what I see. If you want to appear to be composed of virulent ignorant hatred and stereotypical opinion central, then take the abuse you so richly deserve for being a dumbass.

I'm not even a feminist. You don't even bother to find out about a person, you just make judgments based on race and gender and you stick to them despite all evidence to the contrary.

To you I'm a feminista liberal mouthpiece, and that's just another thing for me to laugh about.
 
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