European liberals

[LJ_Reloaded]

Now those guys know how to throw down.

Riots, protests, shutting down infrastructures with strikes.

We should have taken a page out of their book during the health care reform battle...

 

[Powertone]

they're pissed about having to retire @ 62 or 64 now , right ? the poor dears...

and we DID take a page from them during the healthcare debate...Conservatives took to the streets and mall in DC to protest AGAINST the debacle .
No matter...the LIBS in power shoved it down our throats and up our asses for the effort

notice we only took a page...you'd take the entire manual and add new chapters to express your dissent

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

After I'm your fascist dictator we're gonna invade those commie fags and keep all the really good real estate. Just like the Roman Caesars used to do for their soldiers.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

After I'm your fascist dictator we're gonna invade those commie fags and keep all the really good real estate. Just like the Roman Caesars used to do for their soldiers.

Rome collapsed. FYI.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Rome collapsed. FYI.

Every civilization does.

Make it your goal to read a fucking book someday.

 

[where]

Now those guys know how to throw down.

Riots, protests, shutting down infrastructures with strikes.

We should have taken a page out of their book during the health care reform battle...

those aren't liberals, you fuckwit.

 

[TANG GOD]

nobody gets intimidated by a buncha funny hat wearing, baton carring, scrawny brits in uniforms.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Go protestors!
Now that's what I'm talkin' about.

Liberals in America... this is how it's done right.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_france_retirement_strikes

Oil workers, youths, truckers defy French govt

By GREG KELLER, AP Business Writer – 7 mins ago

PARIS – French oil workers defied the government's demand Monday to get back to work and end fuel shortages, stepping up their fight against President Nicolas Sarkozy's retirement reforms, as youths faced off against riot police and truckers joined the protests.

Airlines, meanwhile, were told to drastically cut back their flights into France on Tuesday, when the next national street protests are planned, and severe disruptions to air travel, public transport, schools and other facilities are expected.

Strikers have blockaded a dozen French refineries and numerous oil depots in the last week as part of the widespread protests over Sarkozy's plan to raise the retirement age to 62, which the French Senate will debate on Wednesday.

Fearful motorists have flocked to gas stations in panic and found many empty, while aviation authorities told short-haul planes coming in from other European destinations to bring enough fuel to get back.

Striking workers piled up tires and set them ablaze Monday in front of a refinery at Grandpuits, east of Paris, after authorities issued a legal order insisting that some strikers reopen the facility. Workers said they would refuse, as curls of heavy black smoke wafted into the air.

Other employees and residents formed a "human chain" to prevent the refinery workers from entering the plant, and union leaders said they expected police to intervene.

Dozens of oil tankers remained stuck in the Mediterranean, anchored outside Marseille's two oil ports, where workers have been on strike for more than three weeks to protest a planned port reform as well as the retirement changes.

Prime Minister Francois Fillon pledged Sunday to do what's necessary to prevent fuel shortages, saying the government won't allow such shortages to hurt the French economy. The head of France's petroleum industry body said fuel reserves were "enough to keep us going for a few weeks."

Jean-Louis Schilansky, president of the Petrol Industries Association, warned however that if the strikers continue to block fuel depots and if the nation's truckers join the movement, "then we will have a very big problem."

Truckers did join the fray, staging organized slowdowns Monday aimed at snarling highway traffic. French TV showed images of cars and trucks on a "Snail Operation" - driving at a snail's pace on the main highway between Paris and the northern city of Lille, with red union flags waving out the windows.

The government opened a crisis coordination center Monday in the Interior Ministry, focusing on the conflict in the oil sector.

Countries across Europe are cutting spending and raising taxes to bring down record deficits and debts from the worst recession in 70 years. Labor leaders, students and civil servants are fighting back.
French youth burned tires and cars, set up blockades and clashed with riot police Monday outside some high schools in Paris and nearby suburbs.

Students from Lycee Joliot Curie in the Paris suburb of Nanterre tried to blockade their school, with about 100 facing off against police, who responded with rubber bullets. In all, 261 schools were blocked Monday, the education ministry reported.

Rail unions, which have been on strike since early last week, have prolonged their walkouts through Tuesday to coincide with more than 200 street protests - the sixth nationwide protests in about a month.
Union leaders also called for support strikes from other sectors, including energy, postal workers and private commerce, as well as from employees at Eurotunnel, which runs freight and passengers under the English Channel to London.

France's DGAC civil aviation authority ordered airlines to cancel 50 percent of their flights Tuesday out of Paris' Orly airport, and 30 percent at other airports nationwide, including Paris' largest airport, Charles de Gaulle. Most disruptions were expected to hit short- and medium-haul flights.

Airport operator ADP said strikes by oil workers at Charles de Gaulle had already begun causing some delays on Monday. Spokesman Jerome Landras said travelers should contact their airline to check on flight details.

Train traffic also continued to suffer from the nearly weeklong strike. France's SNCF railway operator said about half its high-speed TGV trains had been canceled Monday, but traffic on the Eurostar between Paris and London was normal.

 

[jeninflorida]

Oh yes, and have to love France…the place where the unemployed go on strike.

Now those guys know how to throw down.

Riots, protests, shutting down infrastructures with strikes.

We should have taken a page out of their book during the health care reform battle...

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Vive la France.

Those protests are still rollin'. Sarkozy's ratings are rock bottom low.

Liberals, take note.

 

[GiaCat]

Now those guys know how to throw down.

Riots, protests, shutting down infrastructures with strikes.

We should have taken a page out of their book during the health care reform battle...

Ultimately, they are rioting because their system is collapsing.

To put it in simple terms; the government takes 80 cents from Paul, borrows 20 cents from China, and in turn pays Peter $1. Peter is not contributing any work to society, and Paul says, "Why do I work so hard? I'm going to sit on my ass like Peter does."

A Socialist utopia is unsustainable. There needs to be a balance between Socialism and Capitalism to make society work.

 

[eyer]

Ultimately, they are rioting because their system is collapsing.

To put it in simple terms; the government takes 80 cents from Paul, borrows 20 cents from China, and in turn pays Peter $1. Peter is not contributing any work to society, and Paul says, "Why do I work so hard? I'm going to sit on my ass like Peter does."

A Socialist utopia is unsustainable. There needs to be a balance between Socialism and Capitalism to make society work.

A Socialist/Capitalist balance is just as utopian...

...no such political thing can exist except within the mind of a dreamer.

 

[Spider Rand]

Oh yes, and have to love France…the place where the unemployed go on strike.

Lol.

 

[GiaCat]

A Socialist/Capitalist balance is just as utopian...

...no such political thing can exist except within the mind of a dreamer.

Perhaps one day people will start thinking independently rather than following some mind-numbing ideology blindly...

No, your right

 

[eyer]

Perhaps one day people will start thinking independently rather than following some mind-numbing ideology blindly...

No, your right

Am I?

'Cause I have no idea if I am or not, not understanding a point you might have been trying to make there...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Are we talking about the same French who haul ass when a German utters a disturbing word?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Hard to back anybody who destroys their own yard when someone else fucks up.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Ultimately, they are rioting because their system is collapsing.

To put it in simple terms; the government takes 80 cents from Paul, borrows 20 cents from China, and in turn pays Peter $1. Peter is not contributing any work to society, and Paul says, "Why do I work so hard? I'm going to sit on my ass like Peter does."

A Socialist utopia is unsustainable. There needs to be a balance between Socialism and Capitalism to make society work.

The Government allows jobs to be offshored to China; that's the source of our problems.

You're getting this (almost) all wrong - there's only so far the rich can go with sapping the working class people of their money. The French are known for bringing out the Guillotine. You know these guys kidnapped some CEOs not even 2 years ago. These rioters have the majority of the country behind them; if not behind the riots, then definitely behind the opposition to France's flirts with austerity.

Sarkozy has NO support anymore.

You claim that the French are lazy but they're some of the most productive people in the world. The facts don't support your scenario. Plus, raising the retirement age will leave more older people in the workforce, competing with younger people for jobs. Raising the retirement age doesn't result in what you think it does...

Oh and France is not socialist. It is a social democracy. Big difference.

 

[Liar]

Oh and France is not socialist. It is a social democracy. Big difference.

More to the point, Sarkozy and his party UMP is not even social democrat, but a conservative/christian right coalition.

That seems to be part of the problem. They are. But France just discovered what that means. And they no likey.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

More to the point, Sarkozy and his party UMP is not even social democrat, but a conservative/christian right coalition.

That seems to be part of the problem. They are. But France just discovered what that means. And they no likey.

I also said a long time ago that Sarkozy was one weird bugger getting elected in France. That shit just didn't add up.

Welp, looks like... it didn't add up.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Now those guys know how to throw down.

Riots, protests, shutting down infrastructures with strikes.

We should have taken a page out of their book during the health care reform battle...

I might turn that into siggy material...



You know, for when the conversation turns to the "violence of the right."

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Every civilization does.

Make it your goal to read a fucking book someday.

Show him a cover and he already knows what's in it...

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

The problems is, in the United States, we liberals let right wingers get nasty and bring assault rifles to townhall meetings and push us around and blow shit up. We seriously need to learn from the French; they don't suffer righties for long.

Right wingers train at gun ranges because they feel we liberals won't go bugfuck crazy on them like the guys in Greece or the leftists in South America. We're foolish in letting them keep believing that.

A growling snarling dog will eventually pounce on you unless you put a bullet in its head.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The Democrat Mayor of Boston put you in cages to prevent violence...





Get real d00d...

 

[Spider Rand]

The problems is, in the United States, we liberals let right wingers get nasty and bring assault rifles to townhall meetings and push us around and blow shit up. We seriously need to learn from the French; they don't suffer righties for long.

Right wingers train at gun ranges because they feel we liberals won't go bugfuck crazy on them like the guys in Greece or the leftists in South America. We're foolish in letting them keep believing that.

A growling snarling dog will eventually pounce on you unless you put a bullet in its head.

They're coming to get you, Barbara!!!
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy153/alizegirl14/dog-picture-photo-small-puppies-cut.jpg