Don't forget to cover her in clingfilm before you lick her pussy!

[smartandsexy]

So we all know about using a condom when you're with a new partner or before you've both been tested to protect you against the nasties. For intercourse, this is straightforward.

But what about for oral sex? This is a lower risk activity for the transmission of HIV, but the risk is still there. Of course there are other STIs that can be passed on in this way too. So the safer way to have oral sex is with a condom or using a dental dam (or cling film!). I'm just wondering, honestly, are people as scrupulous with having safer oral sex as having safer vaginal or anal sex?

Personally, I will admit to having not practiced safer oral sex. I've only been with one man sexually prior to my fiance, and whilst if I were to have had intercourse with him I would definitely have used a condom, I did have oral sex with him without using anything. It was probably a very stupid thing to do, but I did it.

To be honest, I love giving head, but the thought of sucking a cock with a condom on is a total turn off. I'd like to some day experience going down on a woman, but I'm not inspired at the thought of licking her through latex or plastic wrap.

So I'm wondering how you honestly negotiate this? I suspect people will more readily engage in unprotected oral than unprotected intercourse - am I right? How do you square this with safety concerns?

 

[luxey313]

Maybe girls should justify spitting as trying to keep oral sex safer.

 

[smartandsexy]

Maybe girls should justify spitting as trying to keep oral sex safer.

Spitting is rude!

And will no more protect you than practising the withdrawal method for intercourse.

Sorry, I'm not sure whether you were serious with that comment or not.

 

[luxey313]

Spitting is rude!

And will no more protect you than practising the withdrawal method for intercourse.

Sorry, I'm not sure whether you were serious with that comment or not.

sarcastic

 

[smartandsexy]

sarcastic

Yes, I thought so, but wasn't sure!

Sadly, I'm sure there are people out there do believe that though.

 

[smartandsexy]

It has always been said that oral sex carries a potential risk when it comes to HIV transmission, and that although it is much safer than anal sex, it is not risk free. Although oral sex carries a much lower risk than unprotected anal sex, recent studies in the USA and the UK have suggested that this risk may be higher than previously estimated.

http://www.tht.org.uk/gaymen/oral_sex/faq02.htm

 

[ShamelessFlirt]

Wrap it before you tap it!

 

[Guest]

I use condoms on women (and I'm a woman). I think it's safer than plastic wrap or anything like that. I usually just unroll the condom, then cut it up the side so I can unfold it and stretch it flat over her. I've never had any complaints from partners, and I haven't had any problems. The only thing that takes some getting used to is that latex flavor... bluh! Also, I used to be a big fan of UNlubricated condoms for that reason, but now it's getting increasingly hard to find them wihtout any sort of prelubrication. So that's putting a bit of a crimp in my style. But I absolutely will not compromise by putting myself at risk. Also, it can give your partner some peace of mind too, since people are capable of lying, and sometimes even people who aren't lying find out later that they have something and jsut didn't know about it. As I wish to avoid those types of problems, I always use a condom with any partner (male or female).

 

[smartandsexy]

I use condoms on women (and I'm a woman). I think it's safer than plastic wrap or anything like that. I usually just unroll the condom, then cut it up the side so I can unfold it and stretch it flat over her. I've never had any complaints from partners, and I haven't had any problems. The only thing that takes some getting used to is that latex flavor... bluh! Also, I used to be a big fan of UNlubricated condoms for that reason, but now it's getting increasingly hard to find them wihtout any sort of prelubrication. So that's putting a bit of a crimp in my style. But I absolutely will not compromise by putting myself at risk. Also, it can give your partner some peace of mind too, since people are capable of lying, and sometimes even people who aren't lying find out later that they have something and jsut didn't know about it. As I wish to avoid those types of problems, I always use a condom with any partner (male or female).

As I understand one or other of you needs to hold the condom or dam in place or else use a harness?

Yeah, the latex flavour doesn't sound too appealing! It's nice to hear positive experiences of safer oral sex though, so thanks.

 

[curious2c]

Possibly this is a good way to push for...long lasting relationships...heh heh. In any event...I shudder at times when I realize what I did as a young man...how many times not only was I lucky, but we were lucky that pregnancy didn't occur too. In those times one might get the clap...although Aids was just begining to become an issue.

I guess if I were in the position to be out and about again I would have to adopt a whole new philosiphy about sex and sexual things...one that would be hard to follow I'm sure. Condoms and such are so much a drag...yet, better them than what could happen.

Perhaps I'd wait for the sexual part of the relationship until we were both comfortable with each other and both of us knew that we were free of any disease's. After just over two years without it, I think I could manage a few months in anticipation.

 

[smartandsexy]

Possibly this is a good way to push for...long lasting relationships...heh heh. In any event...I shudder at times when I realize what I did as a young man...how many times not only was I lucky, but we were lucky that pregnancy didn't occur too. In those times one might get the clap...although Aids was just begining to become an issue.

I guess if I were in the position to be out and about again I would have to adopt a whole new philosiphy about sex and sexual things...one that would be hard to follow I'm sure. Condoms and such are so much a drag...yet, better them than what could happen.

Perhaps I'd wait for the sexual part of the relationship until we were both comfortable with each other and both of us knew that we were free of any disease's. After just over two years without it, I think I could manage a few months in anticipation.

Testing is definitely the way to go. Of course, if one is in any doubt that their partner is not 100% monogamous, they should still be having protected sex.

Sometimes reality can be a pain in the arse.

 

[Guest]

As I understand one or other of you needs to hold the condom or dam in place or else use a harness?

Yeah, the latex flavour doesn't sound too appealing! It's nice to hear positive experiences of safer oral sex though, so thanks.

Yep, one does have to hold it in place. If I'm giving her oral sex I don't have a problem with that, because I can just hold it down with my fingers. However, if the clothes come off and there is any genital to genital rubbing then that complicates things. As I haven't found a way around that one I (or she) usually try to make it fun by wearing a sexy pair of panties. But usually I go straight for giving her oral sex and/or fingering her, so it's not much of an issue.

 

[curious2c]

Testing is definitely the way to go. Of course, if one is in any doubt that their partner is not 100% monogamous, they should still be having protected sex.

Sometimes reality can be a pain in the arse.

I must be or must have gotten old-fashioned somewhere along the line...I think that I'd have to be able to trust my partner to get to the sexual level with them...so...in the end, doubt would have to be gone. Damn...where did that come from?

 

[smartandsexy]

I must be or must have gotten old-fashioned somewhere along the line...I think that I'd have to be able to trust my partner to get to the sexual level with them...so...in the end, doubt would have to be gone. Damn...where did that come from?

I'm terribly old fashioned in lots of ways too. It's the new black.

 

[smartandsexy]

Yep, one does have to hold it in place. If I'm giving her oral sex I don't have a problem with that, because I can just hold it down with my fingers. However, if the clothes come off and there is any genital to genital rubbing then that complicates things. As I haven't found a way around that one I (or she) usually try to make it fun by wearing a sexy pair of panties. But usually I go straight for giving her oral sex and/or fingering her, so it's not much of an issue.

You sound like quite the expert. If I can organise a willing volunteer, would you care to demonstrate?

 

[Guest]

You sound like quite the expert. If I can organise a willing volunteer, would you care to demonstrate?

Sure

I'm not an expert, though. If you really want some expertise with this sort of thing you'd probably be better off talking to a "hard core" lesbian. I realize that phrase sounds ridiculous, but what I mean by that is a woman who only has sex with women, and when she has sex with those women she doesn't participate in any sort of strap on or dildo use. There are such people, and they say that they will not use that type of penetration because they don't like the idea of introducing anything remotely man-like into their sexual encounters (I'm bi, so that doesn't make a difference to me). So if they practice safe sex I'm sure they've got more tricks up their sleeve than I do. I just sort of fly by night with that type of thing. Call me the queen of condom improvisation. I just find that condoms are easy to get, easy to use, and I like them because I know they are safe (unless someone has a latex allergy, of course).

 

[smartandsexy]

I'm not an expert, though.

OK, but I still want a demonstration, dammit!

I'm actually still interested to hear whether other people are so sensible or whether, in reality, they are more likely to engage in risky oral sex than unprotected intercourse.

 

[hydrex]

Um.....there is such a thing as an oral "condom" on the market though I don't know what they're called.

 

[hydrex]

"Bloodsaw; Paula A. (67 Manchester, Apt. D, San Francisco, CA 94110)
Abstract: The present invention is an oral condom which protects the user from contracting sexually transmitted diseases while engaging in oral, vaginal or anal sex. The oral condom provides an improved protective mask which is capable of protecting the facial area of a user from undesirable exposure to infection carrying microorganisms. The oral condom is shaped like an oval with two lateral leg portions which are attached to two ear attachments respectively. The oral condom includes conformed portions for the lips so that the lips can be more easily moved in a natural way and an extended portion for the tongue so the tongue can move in a natural way and not be hindered by the oral condom. "

 

[smartandsexy]

Um.....there is such a thing as an oral "condom" on the market though I don't know what they're called.

For men? Errr..condoms.

For women, dental dams:

http://www.mexpo-glove.com/images/rubber_dental_dam.jpg

http://www.womenspress.com/newspaper/2000/15-25%20articles/LisaDentalDamm.jpeg

 

[smartandsexy]

"Bloodsaw; Paula A. (67 Manchester, Apt. D, San Francisco, CA 94110)
Abstract: The present invention is an oral condom which protects the user from contracting sexually transmitted diseases while engaging in oral, vaginal or anal sex. The oral condom provides an improved protective mask which is capable of protecting the facial area of a user from undesirable exposure to infection carrying microorganisms. The oral condom is shaped like an oval with two lateral leg portions which are attached to two ear attachments respectively. The oral condom includes conformed portions for the lips so that the lips can be more easily moved in a natural way and an extended portion for the tongue so the tongue can move in a natural way and not be hindered by the oral condom. "

What?!

 

[lovetoread]

Wrap it before you tap it!

Do you practice what you preach?

 

[hydrex]

What?!

Yes well I didn't want to be googling all day.

 

[FinePhilly]

I must be or must have gotten old-fashioned somewhere along the line...I think that I'd have to be able to trust my partner to get to the sexual level with them...so...in the end, doubt would have to be gone. Damn...where did that come from?

Exactly.

If you have a good enough rapport with your partner, you should be able to talk honestly about your sexual history and then asses the risk from there.

But seriously....oral sex given to me with a latex barrier really does not sound appealing at all, nor does giving oral to a partner with a condom.

Yuk.

 

[hydrex]

For the record I am STD free and in need of a blow job.